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Eruditus 920 Nemo Malus Felix 717	Posted - 2014.11.05 04:15:00 - [1] - Quote ...and I'm finishing the day with 140,167,119 ISK. That 118,000,000 was earned over 8 months entirely in pubs. It took 8 months of playing smartly. it was earned playing 100% solo. I never squad. I have never played PC. I increased my ISK by roughly 18.6% in a few hours of 1 day. I ran nothing but 200,000 ISK full proto rigs today. If this continues it will ruin the game. Oh, and tomorrow starts the SP bonanza. What will become of my beloved DUST 514? "Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
Riruodo Templar Investigative Commission 421	Posted - 2014.11.05 04:17:00 - [2] - Quote this is a glitch, right? Or is it kind of a super isk first day only celebration that dust has 1.9? Utena Tenjou is my prince in shining armor.
Thokk Nightshade Montana Militia 663	Posted - 2014.11.05 04:17:00 - [3] - Quote Eruditus 920 wrote: ...and I'm finishing the day with 140,167,119 ISK. That 118,000,000 was earned over 8 months entirely in pubs. It took 8 months of playing smartly. it was earned playing 100% solo. I never squad. I have never played PC. I increased my ISK by roughly 18.6% in a few hours of 1 day. I ran nothing but 200,000 ISK full proto rigs today. If this continues it will ruin the game. Oh, and tomorrow starts the SP bonanza. What will become of my beloved DUST 514? If you have any extra laying around I'd be willing to take a couple off your hand. Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
LUGMOS YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE 761	Posted - 2014.11.05 04:18:00 - [4] - Quote You run goofed saying that this will ruin the game. Miiighty bad things are headed your way boy. Mighty bad. Youse bettah find some cover to avoid the bullethell incoming. Quafe A question doesn't always have an answer, but a problem does, So what is DUST? A problem or a question?
Magnus Amadeuss Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1208	Posted - 2014.11.05 04:18:00 - [5] - Quote Eruditus 920 wrote: ...and I'm finishing the day with 140,167,119 ISK. That 118,000,000 ISK was earned over 8 months entirely in pubs. It took 8 months of playing smartly. It was earned playing 100% solo. I never squad. I have never played PC. I increased my ISK by roughly 18.6% in a few hours of 1 day. I ran nothing but 200,000 ISK full proto rigs today. If this continues it will ruin the game. Oh, and tomorrow starts the SP bonanza. What will become of my beloved DUST 514? Calling B.S right now. Either that or you have absolutely NO idea how much isk was scammed from PC. Lets put it this way, you could earn this much isk every single day for another 8 months and still not touch a LOT of the wallets made rich from farming. EWAR tool
Michael Arck 5981	Posted - 2014.11.05 04:22:00 - [6] - Quote Gotta love that emo brigade, finding a grey cloud in a clear, sunny day!! Archistrategos / The 7th Prime / Selah *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
Operative 1125 Lokaas True Companion Planetary Requisitions 615	Posted - 2014.11.05 04:23:00 - [7] - Quote Eruditus 920 wrote: ...and I'm finishing the day with 140,167,119 ISK. That 118,000,000 ISK was earned over 8 months entirely in pubs. It took 8 months of playing smartly. It was earned playing 100% solo. I never squad. I have never played PC. I increased my ISK by roughly 18.6% in a few hours of 1 day. I ran nothing but 200,000 ISK full proto rigs today. If this continues it will ruin the game. Oh, and tomorrow starts the SP bonanza. What will become of my beloved DUST 514? Equality is a b*tch. Casual players rejoice! Come down to our level, the water's fine. Boycott Black Thursday!
Major IMPACT Vengeance Unbound RISE of LEGION 29	Posted - 2014.11.05 04:25:00 - [8] - Quote Well lucky bastards, cannot be on until Friday. By then, they'll have it fixed. EWAR makes you stronger Stand a little taller Doesn't mean I'm lonely when I'm alone
LUGMOS YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE 762	Posted - 2014.11.05 04:28:00 - [9] - Quote Major IMPACT wrote: Well lucky bastards, cannot be on until Friday. By then, they'll have it fixed. Saaame... Quafe A question doesn't always have an answer, but a problem does, So what is DUST? A problem or a question?
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Gentlemen's.Club 5804	Posted - 2014.11.05 04:33:00 - [10] - Quote Magnus Amadeuss wrote: Eruditus 920 wrote: ...and I'm finishing the day with 140,167,119 ISK. That 118,000,000 ISK was earned over 8 months entirely in pubs. It took 8 months of playing smartly. It was earned playing 100% solo. I never squad. I have never played PC. I increased my ISK by roughly 18.6% in a few hours of 1 day. I ran nothing but 200,000 ISK full proto rigs today. If this continues it will ruin the game. Oh, and tomorrow starts the SP bonanza. What will become of my beloved DUST 514? Calling B.S right now. Either that or you have absolutely NO idea how much isk was scammed from PC. Lets put it this way, you could earn this much isk every single day for another 8 months and still not touch a LOT of the wallets made rich from farming. Most of those people with that amount of ISK no longer play this game and have quit. Maybe there is a reason to fix this bug quick. NEG1 EVE 21 Day Trial Selling Templar BPO's

DUST Fiend Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 14828	Posted - 2014.11.05 05:12:00 - [11] - Quote I burned over 100 Million on Prometheus ships in like, 2 weeks, when they first came out. Ahhhh, good times. The rage was strong in this one. Ten Year Plan (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
sir RAVEN WING Huogikku Corporation Heiian Conglomerate 104	Posted - 2014.11.05 05:21:00 - [12] - Quote I will take a few million off your hands good sir! I ask for 8 - 10 million, I will also donate anything I get that puts your donation over 10 million to players in desperate need of ISK, or the faction of your choosing... You may send it to me at any time, I thank you for reading this. I shall be passive on the forums should you have any questions about my offer, other than that good day "All war is the result of one man's madness."
Magnus Amadeuss Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1210	Posted - 2014.11.05 05:29:00 - [13] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Magnus Amadeuss wrote: Eruditus 920 wrote: ...and I'm finishing the day with 140,167,119 ISK. That 118,000,000 ISK was earned over 8 months entirely in pubs. It took 8 months of playing smartly. It was earned playing 100% solo. I never squad. I have never played PC. I increased my ISK by roughly 18.6% in a few hours of 1 day. I ran nothing but 200,000 ISK full proto rigs today. If this continues it will ruin the game. Oh, and tomorrow starts the SP bonanza. What will become of my beloved DUST 514? Calling B.S right now. Either that or you have absolutely NO idea how much isk was scammed from PC. Lets put it this way, you could earn this much isk every single day for another 8 months and still not touch a LOT of the wallets made rich from farming. Most of those people with that amount of ISK no longer play this game and have quit. Maybe there is a reason to fix this bug quick. Yet more stay when they have billions. Protosquads are/have been an epidemic in this game inflicted by people who no longer worry about isk on those who scrap for every little bit. You yourself say you long for when isk was more scarce, well that time has long since vanished, after a 3+ trillion isk faucet (for doing literally nothing) was turned on in the form of passive PC isk. Someone once kept a tally of what just one corp was getting from PC, with no major or minor PC fighting going on, and it reached into the tens of billions before he stopped (which wasn't long.) As luck would have it, you can fix your own dilemma, give away all of your isk/stuff and start over. Or is this another case of the rich crying to the poor about how hard it is? EWAR tool
Grimmiers 694	Posted - 2014.11.05 06:07:00 - [14] - Quote What are pc payouts like now? If the isk gain is legit it would be for the best to let more corps attack and new players get into using competitive fits more often.
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Gentlemen's.Club 5808	Posted - 2014.11.05 06:53:00 - [15] - Quote Magnus Amadeuss wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Magnus Amadeuss wrote: Eruditus 920 wrote: ...and I'm finishing the day with 140,167,119 ISK. That 118,000,000 ISK was earned over 8 months entirely in pubs. It took 8 months of playing smartly. It was earned playing 100% solo. I never squad. I have never played PC. I increased my ISK by roughly 18.6% in a few hours of 1 day. I ran nothing but 200,000 ISK full proto rigs today. If this continues it will ruin the game. Oh, and tomorrow starts the SP bonanza. What will become of my beloved DUST 514? Calling B.S right now. Either that or you have absolutely NO idea how much isk was scammed from PC. Lets put it this way, you could earn this much isk every single day for another 8 months and still not touch a LOT of the wallets made rich from farming. Most of those people with that amount of ISK no longer play this game and have quit. Maybe there is a reason to fix this bug quick. Yet more stay when they have billions. Protosquads are/have been an epidemic in this game inflicted by people who no longer worry about isk on those who scrap for every little bit. You yourself say you long for when isk was more scarce, well that time has long since vanished, after a 3+ trillion isk faucet (for doing literally nothing) was turned on in the form of passive PC isk. Someone once kept a tally of what just one corp was getting from PC, with no major or minor PC fighting going on, and it reached into the tens of billions before he stopped (which wasn't long.) As luck would have it, you can fix your own dilemma, give away all of your isk/stuff and start over. Or is this another case of the rich crying to the poor about how hard it is? No, No they do not... Where is all the ISK that's been farmed from PC back from the days of passive ISK? Most of it is locked up in accounts that are no longer active, because they got all this ISK and had nothing else to do in this game really so they quit.... NEG1 EVE 21 Day Trial Selling Templar BPO's
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 7372	Posted - 2014.11.05 06:55:00 - [16] - Quote Grimmiers wrote: What are pc payouts like now? If the isk gain is legit it would be for the best to let more corps attack and new players get into using competitive fits more often. Lemme put it this way: I rang for Murphy's Law today. They asked if we really wanted to be paid for that. We all said no. We all joked that we made less money in the PC than we did in Pubs. Bullet Hell and Duct-Tape? Count me in! FA recruits get free officer BPO's. Enlist today. Must be a scrub to enter.
Sir Snugglz Red Star. EoN. 882	Posted - 2014.11.05 06:56:00 - [17] - Quote I started the day with 738,000,000ish.... sold a lot of assets and was at 752,000,000ish.... played a couple of matches and finished with 770,000,000ish all running my pimped out python. Today was a good day FYI: My lifetime isk was earned by me flying derpships and accepting derpship contracts in PC. No one ever gave me free isk (Ask Eugene Killmore), and got nothing from farming clones in PC. True mercenary Pilot. #SWAG #YOLO #ROADTOBILLION -Pro AFKing LVL 5 -Luck is just one of my skills -Just because I make flying look easy doesn't mean it is
Ablerober Pretty Violence 168	Posted - 2014.11.05 08:01:00 - [18] - Quote Eruditus 920 wrote: ...and I'm finishing the day with 140,167,119 ISK. That 118,000,000 ISK was earned over 8 months entirely in pubs. It took 8 months of playing smartly. It was earned playing 100% solo. I never squad. I have never played PC. I increased my ISK by roughly 18.6% in a few hours of 1 day. I ran nothing but 200,000 ISK full proto rigs today. If this continues it will ruin the game. Oh, and tomorrow starts the SP bonanza. What will become of my beloved DUST 514? I can see what you mean. My first match today and I made 2.9m isk. I ran militia / standard gear my kdr was I think 7/4 but I came in the top 5 due to my use of uplinks. This is more isk than I would normally make in 2-3 hours of grinding pub matches. I'll still put in the hours though where I can, as I want to reach 1 Billion isk by end of December haha
Magnus Amadeuss Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1212	Posted - 2014.11.05 08:10:00 - [19] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Magnus Amadeuss wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Magnus Amadeuss wrote: Eruditus 920 wrote: ...and I'm finishing the day with 140,167,119 ISK. That 118,000,000 ISK was earned over 8 months entirely in pubs. It took 8 months of playing smartly. It was earned playing 100% solo. I never squad. I have never played PC. I increased my ISK by roughly 18.6% in a few hours of 1 day. I ran nothing but 200,000 ISK full proto rigs today. If this continues it will ruin the game. Oh, and tomorrow starts the SP bonanza. What will become of my beloved DUST 514? Calling B.S right now. Either that or you have absolutely NO idea how much isk was scammed from PC. Lets put it this way, you could earn this much isk every single day for another 8 months and still not touch a LOT of the wallets made rich from farming. Most of those people with that amount of ISK no longer play this game and have quit. Maybe there is a reason to fix this bug quick. Yet more stay when they have billions. Protosquads are/have been an epidemic in this game inflicted by people who no longer worry about isk on those who scrap for every little bit. You yourself say you long for when isk was more scarce, well that time has long since vanished, after a 3+ trillion isk faucet (for doing literally nothing) was turned on in the form of passive PC isk. Someone once kept a tally of what just one corp was getting from PC, with no major or minor PC fighting going on, and it reached into the tens of billions before he stopped (which wasn't long.) As luck would have it, you can fix your own dilemma, give away all of your isk/stuff and start over. Or is this another case of the rich crying to the poor about how hard it is? No, No they do not... Where is all the ISK that's been farmed from PC back from the days of passive ISK? Most of it is locked up in accounts that are no longer active, because they got all this ISK and had nothing else to do in this game really so they quit.... Source? I mean, do you actually have those numbers, or are you just basing that off of some type of observational bias? I am forced to put it like this because your attitude in this thread is pretty horrible. You act as if your observed cause and effect is the only possible explanation and that all of these proto stompers with infinite isk that just destroy public matches for everyone else don't exist. EWAR tool
sir RAVEN WING Huogikku Corporation Heiian Conglomerate 106	Posted - 2014.11.05 08:16:00 - [20] - Quote @Magnus He's right, the game is better when you are not taking sh*ts made of ISK. (:p) I'll just say that you have to become creative when ISK is no longer a problem. You have more ISK than me, but I have 0 ISK problems and now I search for a way to pass the time of Dust 514. "All war is the result of one man's madness."

Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Gentlemen's.Club 5811	Posted - 2014.11.05 08:24:00 - [21] - Quote Magnus Amadeuss wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Magnus Amadeuss wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Most of those people with that amount of ISK no longer play this game and have quit. Maybe there is a reason to fix this bug quick. Yet more stay when they have billions. Protosquads are/have been an epidemic in this game inflicted by people who no longer worry about isk on those who scrap for every little bit. You yourself say you long for when isk was more scarce, well that time has long since vanished, after a 3+ trillion isk faucet (for doing literally nothing) was turned on in the form of passive PC isk. Someone once kept a tally of what just one corp was getting from PC, with no major or minor PC fighting going on, and it reached into the tens of billions before he stopped (which wasn't long.) As luck would have it, you can fix your own dilemma, give away all of your isk/stuff and start over. Or is this another case of the rich crying to the poor about how hard it is? No, No they do not... Where is all the ISK that's been farmed from PC back from the days of passive ISK? Most of it is locked up in accounts that are no longer active, because they got all this ISK and had nothing else to do in this game really so they quit.... Source? I mean, do you actually have those numbers, or are you just basing that off of some type of observational bias? I am forced to put it like this because your attitude in this thread is pretty horrible. You act as if your observed cause and effect is the only possible explanation and that all of these proto stompers with infinite isk that just destroy public matches for everyone else don't exist. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=179423&find=unread There is a list of a lot of people who know longer play the game. Most of them were in PC corp when PC was spewing out loads of passive ISK... Do you have a counting tally of these billionaires who still play this game after they farmed ISK turning the Passive ISK farming era? Most of the original EON, Teamplayers, Ancients Exiles, Nyian San members are gone and inactive. Show me the list of all the ISK billionaires who still get on dust every single day and having a field day. most of them have quit because they have nothing else to accomplish in this game and it has become a bore. And you don't need billions of ISK to proto stomp you can do it with 10mil ISK and a decent squad that has PC experience. NEG1 EVE 21 Day Trial Selling Templar BPO's
Magnus Amadeuss Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1212	Posted - 2014.11.05 08:25:00 - [22] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: @Magnus He's right, the game is better when you are not taking sh*ts made of ISK. (:p) I'll just say that you have to become creative when ISK is no longer a problem. You have more ISK than me, but I have 0 ISK problems and now I search for a way to pass the time of Dust 514. My issue with it is this: Either it is a problem if people have effectively infinite isk or not. So either the problem already exists without taking the payouts into consideration, or the problem doesn't exist and who cares. Like I said, I prefer a level-ish playing field. I would gladly have all of my assets/isk taken away right now if it meant that woudl happen game-wide, so that everyone would feel the loss of a protosuit. Unfortunately that isn't how it is in dust. a LARGE number of players (like myself) can loose proto for months and not even feel the strain. The changed payouts just make it so everyone is the same there. In a game with no end-goal and no market I think that sounds about right. The situation without the large payouts? Same people who exploited game mechanics months ago will never have to owrry about loss, while they can inflict major loss on others. Doesn't sound like a fun game for the people on the short end of that stick. EWAR tool
sir RAVEN WING Huogikku Corporation Heiian Conglomerate 106	Posted - 2014.11.05 08:28:00 - [23] - Quote Magnus Amadeuss wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: @Magnus He's right, the game is better when you are not taking sh*ts made of ISK. (:p) I'll just say that you have to become creative when ISK is no longer a problem. You have more ISK than me, but I have 0 ISK problems and now I search for a way to pass the time of Dust 514. My issue with it is this: Either it is a problem if people have effectively infinite isk or not. So either the problem already exists without taking the payouts into consideration, or the problem doesn't exist and who cares. Like I said, I prefer a level-ish playing field. I would gladly have all of my assets/isk taken away right now if it meant that woudl happen game-wide, so that everyone would feel the loss of a protosuit. Unfortunately that isn't how it is in dust. a LARGE number of players (like myself) can loose proto for months and not even feel the strain. The changed payouts just make it so everyone is the same there. In a game with no end-goal and no market I think that sounds about right. The situation without the large payouts? Same people who exploited game mechanics months ago will never have to owrry about loss, while they can inflict major loss on others. Doesn't sound like a fun game for the people on the short end of that stick. How about you hand me some ISK? On a unrelated note I am trying to find a way for gambling to make it's way into Dust. "All war is the result of one man's madness."
Sclompton Face-Smasher uptown456 134	Posted - 2014.11.05 08:28:00 - [24] - Quote Magnus Amadeuss wrote: Source? I mean, do you actually have those numbers, or are you just basing that off of some type of observational bias? I am forced to put it like this because your attitude in this thread is pretty horrible. You act as if your observed cause and effect is the only possible explanation and that all of these proto stompers with infinite isk that just destroy public matches for everyone else don't exist. I beleive he's saying that there will be no long-term GOAL if you have that amount of isk easy after a day of gaming ( I am talking about the amount added up from post.). I too was looking forward to my first 100 billion but now that it's nothing but easier SP AND ISK wise there's no reason after a while to play this game but to kill and kill to your fill or quit like TONS of others which i've seen personally never come back and move on. It's the opposite of the Destiny argument where there's too much grind ( I don't see it because I like solo play and 3 man play there better) and here it's going to be little to NO grind which will inevitably turn into a space shooter- clone style play of COD's latest series which haven't brought much changed. Another example is the IPhone. In short. Playstyle: Scout~Passionate In-bred Sniper~Support~Enemy finder Weapon: Pro SG~SR~SMG~NK~ScR
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Gentlemen's.Club 5812	Posted - 2014.11.05 08:32:00 - [25] - Quote Magnus Amadeuss wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: @Magnus He's right, the game is better when you are not taking sh*ts made of ISK. (:p) I'll just say that you have to become creative when ISK is no longer a problem. You have more ISK than me, but I have 0 ISK problems and now I search for a way to pass the time of Dust 514. My issue with it is this: Either it is a problem if people have effectively infinite isk or not. So either the problem already exists without taking the payouts into consideration, or the problem doesn't exist and who cares. Like I said, I prefer a level-ish playing field. I would gladly have all of my assets/isk taken away right now if it meant that woudl happen game-wide, so that everyone would feel the loss of a protosuit. Unfortunately that isn't how it is in dust. a LARGE number of players (like myself) can loose proto for months and not even feel the strain. The changed payouts just make it so everyone is the same there. In a game with no end-goal and no market I think that sounds about right. The situation without the large payouts? Same people who exploited game mechanics months ago will never have to owrry about loss, while they can inflict major loss on others. Doesn't sound like a fun game for the people on the short end of that stick. The concept of it's broken for some people so lets just break it for everyone is just insane on the face of it. Why not do something rational like improve instead of break down and send into anarchy. NEG1 EVE 21 Day Trial Selling Templar BPO's
Magnus Amadeuss Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1213	Posted - 2014.11.05 08:32:00 - [26] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Magnus Amadeuss wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Magnus Amadeuss wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Most of those people with that amount of ISK no longer play this game and have quit. Maybe there is a reason to fix this bug quick. Yet more stay when they have billions. Protosquads are/have been an epidemic in this game inflicted by people who no longer worry about isk on those who scrap for every little bit. You yourself say you long for when isk was more scarce, well that time has long since vanished, after a 3+ trillion isk faucet (for doing literally nothing) was turned on in the form of passive PC isk. Someone once kept a tally of what just one corp was getting from PC, with no major or minor PC fighting going on, and it reached into the tens of billions before he stopped (which wasn't long.) As luck would have it, you can fix your own dilemma, give away all of your isk/stuff and start over. Or is this another case of the rich crying to the poor about how hard it is? No, No they do not... Where is all the ISK that's been farmed from PC back from the days of passive ISK? Most of it is locked up in accounts that are no longer active, because they got all this ISK and had nothing else to do in this game really so they quit.... Source? I mean, do you actually have those numbers, or are you just basing that off of some type of observational bias? I am forced to put it like this because your attitude in this thread is pretty horrible. You act as if your observed cause and effect is the only possible explanation and that all of these proto stompers with infinite isk that just destroy public matches for everyone else don't exist. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=179423&find=unread There is a list of a lot of people who know longer play the game. Most of them were in PC corp when PC was spewing out loads of passive ISK... Do you have a counting tally of these billionaires who still play this game after they farmed ISK turning the Passive ISK farming era? Most of the original EON, Teamplayers, Ancients Exiles, Nyian San members are gone and inactive. Show me the list of all the ISK billionaires who still get on dust every single day and having a field day. most of them have quit because they have nothing else to accomplish in this game and it has become a bore. And you don't need billions of ISK to proto stomp you can do it with 10mil ISK and a decent squad that has PC experience. That is a list of ~ 100 people, out of the THOUSANDS who participated in PC over the last 2 years (at least a year of which was just farmville in space). We are talking well over 3 trillion isk in farm money alone here. My proof? Just scroll through the forums, not a day goes by when people aren't complaining about non-stop proto stomping, or of people bragging about billions in the bank. Play the game at any given time, the same people who were in AE/Teamplayers/Nyan San are still playing just in different corps like 1 u.p. or whatever. They can still easily loose 1+ million isk per game and think nothing of it. Point being, right now Dust is more competitive than it has been in a long time. Everyone is running top gear, not just the boys club. EWAR tool
Magnus Amadeuss Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1213	Posted - 2014.11.05 08:36:00 - [27] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Magnus Amadeuss wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: @Magnus He's right, the game is better when you are not taking sh*ts made of ISK. (:p) I'll just say that you have to become creative when ISK is no longer a problem. You have more ISK than me, but I have 0 ISK problems and now I search for a way to pass the time of Dust 514. My issue with it is this: Either it is a problem if people have effectively infinite isk or not. So either the problem already exists without taking the payouts into consideration, or the problem doesn't exist and who cares. Like I said, I prefer a level-ish playing field. I would gladly have all of my assets/isk taken away right now if it meant that woudl happen game-wide, so that everyone would feel the loss of a protosuit. Unfortunately that isn't how it is in dust. a LARGE number of players (like myself) can loose proto for months and not even feel the strain. The changed payouts just make it so everyone is the same there. In a game with no end-goal and no market I think that sounds about right. The situation without the large payouts? Same people who exploited game mechanics months ago will never have to owrry about loss, while they can inflict major loss on others. Doesn't sound like a fun game for the people on the short end of that stick. The concept of it's broken for some people so lets just break it for everyone is just insane on the face of it. Why not do something rational like improve instead of break down and send into anarchy. Here is the part you don't see, BECAUSE it is broken for a few people it is broken for EVERYONE. Right now is the closest to any sort of competitiveness Dust has been in a very long time and it is because everyone can participate in top form. I definitely prefer the current state of broken to the old state of broken (oh you weren't here to farm isk? well sucks to be you, now you can't even hurt your enemy in any way shape or form) EWAR tool
Alena Ventrallis Vengeance Unbound RISE of LEGION 2107	Posted - 2014.11.05 08:42:00 - [28] - Quote I like the ISK increase. No longer can Nyain San spam proto at me until I cannot afford to bring out my best. Now I too can use proto the whole match, and you know what? With these huge payouts, and the respect feature, I see a lot (and I mean a LOT) of proto out there, being worn by nearly everyone, and not just by the top dogs. And the fights are bloodbaths. I haven't found a truly lopsided fight yet. Hell, me and my squad pushed FA off the point in a domination because we were all running proto. I made 7.5 million that match. More than covered my losses. If Dust has industry, and we could make our own suits and weapons and modules, then I would concede that this increase in ISK is unwarranted and harmful. But I fail to see how a newbiw making bank like a bittervet in any way hurts the game. No longer do I worry about my proto suit while the rich cats run it like it aint no thang. No we can see who truly has skill, and who just uses superior gear to carry them through a match. It is a beautiful day. Proof that Rattati/CCP do listen to the playerbase.
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Gentlemen's.Club 5812	Posted - 2014.11.05 08:46:00 - [29] - Quote Magnus Amadeuss wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Magnus Amadeuss wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: No, No they do not... Where is all the ISK that's been farmed from PC back from the days of passive ISK? Most of it is locked up in accounts that are no longer active, because they got all this ISK and had nothing else to do in this game really so they quit.... Source? I mean, do you actually have those numbers, or are you just basing that off of some type of observational bias? I am forced to put it like this because your attitude in this thread is pretty horrible. You act as if your observed cause and effect is the only possible explanation and that all of these proto stompers with infinite isk that just destroy public matches for everyone else don't exist. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=179423&find=unread There is a list of a lot of people who know longer play the game. Most of them were in PC corp when PC was spewing out loads of passive ISK... Do you have a counting tally of these billionaires who still play this game after they farmed ISK turning the Passive ISK farming era? Most of the original EON, Teamplayers, Ancients Exiles, Nyian San members are gone and inactive. Show me the list of all the ISK billionaires who still get on dust every single day and having a field day. most of them have quit because they have nothing else to accomplish in this game and it has become a bore. And you don't need billions of ISK to proto stomp you can do it with 10mil ISK and a decent squad that has PC experience. That is a list of ~ 100 people, out of the THOUSANDS who participated in PC over the last 2 years (at least a year of which was just farmville in space). We are talking well over 3 trillion isk in farm money alone here. My proof? Just scroll through the forums, not a day goes by when people aren't complaining about non-stop proto stomping, or of people bragging about billions in the bank. Play the game at any given time, the same people who were in AE/Teamplayers/Nyan San are still playing just in different corps like 1 u.p. or whatever. They can still easily loose 1+ million isk per game and think nothing of it. Point being, right now Dust is more competitive than it has been in a long time. Everyone is running top gear, not just the boys club. Yes but not every single member in those corps got billions of ISK handed out to them on a daily basis, most of the ISK stayed with the directors. The directors and the CEO's are now inactive and have the ISK locked up on there accounts. Not every single member in these corps came out a billionaire most were lucky to profit by a few 100mil before it was all over. Now they have enough to keep the game interesting still. http://i.imgur.com/qBn19st.png Out of the top 6 corps at the time of ISK farming when this picture was taken only 1 of them still remain and are active, although as i hear most of nyain san's former leadership that was playing during that time no longer plays this game. These corps don't fall apart just cuz there members left, many of them feel apart because there leadership with billions of ISK beat the game and lost interest and will to lead the corp because there was not much more for them to do. There members did profit but only a few lucky ones made off with billions of ISK from this that are still active most only gained small profits compared to others. Your asking me for numbers, well here is another post with them. I would like to seem some from you. NEG1 EVE 21 Day Trial Selling Templar BPO's
Lazer Fo Cused Shining Flame Amarr Empire 84	Posted - 2014.11.05 10:24:00 - [30] - Quote 1. ISK payout are fine 2. Really if you win and are in the top 5 you should get a better payout, if you are in the bottom 5 then you suck and get less tho more than if you lose 3. If you lose but are in top 5 you get a better payout, in bottom 5 and you get less 4. It seems to actually pay now to try and win and for pilots it is alot better



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