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Magnus Amadeuss
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.11.05 04:18:00 -
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Eruditus 920 wrote:...and I'm finishing the day with 140,167,119 ISK.
That 118,000,000 ISK was earned over 8 months entirely in pubs. It took 8 months of playing smartly.
It was earned playing 100% solo. I never squad. I have never played PC.
I increased my ISK by roughly 18.6% in a few hours of 1 day.
I ran nothing but 200,000 ISK full proto rigs today.
If this continues it will ruin the game.
Oh, and tomorrow starts the SP bonanza. What will become of my beloved DUST 514?
Calling B.S right now.
Either that or you have absolutely NO idea how much isk was scammed from PC.
Lets put it this way, you could earn this much isk every single day for another 8 months and still not touch a LOT of the wallets made rich from farming.
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Magnus Amadeuss
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.11.05 05:29:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Magnus Amadeuss wrote:Eruditus 920 wrote:...and I'm finishing the day with 140,167,119 ISK.
That 118,000,000 ISK was earned over 8 months entirely in pubs. It took 8 months of playing smartly.
It was earned playing 100% solo. I never squad. I have never played PC.
I increased my ISK by roughly 18.6% in a few hours of 1 day.
I ran nothing but 200,000 ISK full proto rigs today.
If this continues it will ruin the game.
Oh, and tomorrow starts the SP bonanza. What will become of my beloved DUST 514? Calling B.S right now. Either that or you have absolutely NO idea how much isk was scammed from PC. Lets put it this way, you could earn this much isk every single day for another 8 months and still not touch a LOT of the wallets made rich from farming. Most of those people with that amount of ISK no longer play this game and have quit. Maybe there is a reason to fix this bug quick.
Yet more stay when they have billions. Protosquads are/have been an epidemic in this game inflicted by people who no longer worry about isk on those who scrap for every little bit.
You yourself say you long for when isk was more scarce, well that time has long since vanished, after a 3+ trillion isk faucet (for doing literally nothing) was turned on in the form of passive PC isk. Someone once kept a tally of what just one corp was getting from PC, with no major or minor PC fighting going on, and it reached into the tens of billions before he stopped (which wasn't long.)
As luck would have it, you can fix your own dilemma, give away all of your isk/stuff and start over. Or is this another case of the rich crying to the poor about how hard it is?
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Magnus Amadeuss
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.11.05 08:10:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Magnus Amadeuss wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Magnus Amadeuss wrote:Eruditus 920 wrote:...and I'm finishing the day with 140,167,119 ISK.
That 118,000,000 ISK was earned over 8 months entirely in pubs. It took 8 months of playing smartly.
It was earned playing 100% solo. I never squad. I have never played PC.
I increased my ISK by roughly 18.6% in a few hours of 1 day.
I ran nothing but 200,000 ISK full proto rigs today.
If this continues it will ruin the game.
Oh, and tomorrow starts the SP bonanza. What will become of my beloved DUST 514? Calling B.S right now. Either that or you have absolutely NO idea how much isk was scammed from PC. Lets put it this way, you could earn this much isk every single day for another 8 months and still not touch a LOT of the wallets made rich from farming. Most of those people with that amount of ISK no longer play this game and have quit. Maybe there is a reason to fix this bug quick. Yet more stay when they have billions. Protosquads are/have been an epidemic in this game inflicted by people who no longer worry about isk on those who scrap for every little bit. You yourself say you long for when isk was more scarce, well that time has long since vanished, after a 3+ trillion isk faucet (for doing literally nothing) was turned on in the form of passive PC isk. Someone once kept a tally of what just one corp was getting from PC, with no major or minor PC fighting going on, and it reached into the tens of billions before he stopped (which wasn't long.)As luck would have it, you can fix your own dilemma, give away all of your isk/stuff and start over. Or is this another case of the rich crying to the poor about how hard it is? No, No they do not... Where is all the ISK that's been farmed from PC back from the days of passive ISK? Most of it is locked up in accounts that are no longer active, because they got all this ISK and had nothing else to do in this game really so they quit....
Source? I mean, do you actually have those numbers, or are you just basing that off of some type of observational bias?
I am forced to put it like this because your attitude in this thread is pretty horrible. You act as if your observed cause and effect is the only possible explanation and that all of these proto stompers with infinite isk that just destroy public matches for everyone else don't exist.
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Magnus Amadeuss
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.11.05 08:25:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:@Magnus
He's right, the game is better when you are not taking sh*ts made of ISK. (:p)
I'll just say that you have to become creative when ISK is no longer a problem. You have more ISK than me, but I have 0 ISK problems and now I search for a way to pass the time of Dust 514.
My issue with it is this:
Either it is a problem if people have effectively infinite isk or not.
So either the problem already exists without taking the payouts into consideration, or the problem doesn't exist and who cares.
Like I said, I prefer a level-ish playing field. I would gladly have all of my assets/isk taken away right now if it meant that woudl happen game-wide, so that everyone would feel the loss of a protosuit.
Unfortunately that isn't how it is in dust. a LARGE number of players (like myself) can loose proto for months and not even feel the strain. The changed payouts just make it so everyone is the same there. In a game with no end-goal and no market I think that sounds about right.
The situation without the large payouts? Same people who exploited game mechanics months ago will never have to owrry about loss, while they can inflict major loss on others. Doesn't sound like a fun game for the people on the short end of that stick.
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Magnus Amadeuss
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.11.05 08:32:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Magnus Amadeuss wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Magnus Amadeuss wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:
Most of those people with that amount of ISK no longer play this game and have quit.
Maybe there is a reason to fix this bug quick.
Yet more stay when they have billions. Protosquads are/have been an epidemic in this game inflicted by people who no longer worry about isk on those who scrap for every little bit. You yourself say you long for when isk was more scarce, well that time has long since vanished, after a 3+ trillion isk faucet (for doing literally nothing) was turned on in the form of passive PC isk. Someone once kept a tally of what just one corp was getting from PC, with no major or minor PC fighting going on, and it reached into the tens of billions before he stopped (which wasn't long.)As luck would have it, you can fix your own dilemma, give away all of your isk/stuff and start over. Or is this another case of the rich crying to the poor about how hard it is? No, No they do not... Where is all the ISK that's been farmed from PC back from the days of passive ISK? Most of it is locked up in accounts that are no longer active, because they got all this ISK and had nothing else to do in this game really so they quit.... Source? I mean, do you actually have those numbers, or are you just basing that off of some type of observational bias? I am forced to put it like this because your attitude in this thread is pretty horrible. You act as if your observed cause and effect is the only possible explanation and that all of these proto stompers with infinite isk that just destroy public matches for everyone else don't exist. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=179423&find=unread There is a list of a lot of people who know longer play the game. Most of them were in PC corp when PC was spewing out loads of passive ISK... Do you have a counting tally of these billionaires who still play this game after they farmed ISK turning the Passive ISK farming era? Most of the original EON, Teamplayers, Ancients Exiles, Nyian San members are gone and inactive. Show me the list of all the ISK billionaires who still get on dust every single day and having a field day. most of them have quit because they have nothing else to accomplish in this game and it has become a bore. And you don't need billions of ISK to proto stomp you can do it with 10mil ISK and a decent squad that has PC experience.
That is a list of ~ 100 people, out of the THOUSANDS who participated in PC over the last 2 years (at least a year of which was just farmville in space). We are talking well over 3 trillion isk in farm money alone here.
My proof? Just scroll through the forums, not a day goes by when people aren't complaining about non-stop proto stomping, or of people bragging about billions in the bank. Play the game at any given time, the same people who were in AE/Teamplayers/Nyan San are still playing just in different corps like 1 u.p. or whatever. They can still easily loose 1+ million isk per game and think nothing of it.
Point being, right now Dust is more competitive than it has been in a long time. Everyone is running top gear, not just the boys club.
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Magnus Amadeuss
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.11.05 08:36:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Magnus Amadeuss wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:@Magnus
He's right, the game is better when you are not taking sh*ts made of ISK. (:p)
I'll just say that you have to become creative when ISK is no longer a problem. You have more ISK than me, but I have 0 ISK problems and now I search for a way to pass the time of Dust 514. My issue with it is this: Either it is a problem if people have effectively infinite isk or not. So either the problem already exists without taking the payouts into consideration, or the problem doesn't exist and who cares. Like I said, I prefer a level-ish playing field. I would gladly have all of my assets/isk taken away right now if it meant that woudl happen game-wide, so that everyone would feel the loss of a protosuit. Unfortunately that isn't how it is in dust. a LARGE number of players (like myself) can loose proto for months and not even feel the strain. The changed payouts just make it so everyone is the same there. In a game with no end-goal and no market I think that sounds about right. The situation without the large payouts? Same people who exploited game mechanics months ago will never have to owrry about loss, while they can inflict major loss on others. Doesn't sound like a fun game for the people on the short end of that stick. The concept of it's broken for some people so lets just break it for everyone is just insane on the face of it. Why not do something rational like improve instead of break down and send into anarchy.
Here is the part you don't see, BECAUSE it is broken for a few people it is broken for EVERYONE. Right now is the closest to any sort of competitiveness Dust has been in a very long time and it is because everyone can participate in top form.
I definitely prefer the current state of broken to the old state of broken (oh you weren't here to farm isk? well sucks to be you, now you can't even hurt your enemy in any way shape or form)
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