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DarthPlagueis TheWise
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Posted - 2014.11.05 00:32:00 -
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I was thinking about how the new players who don't have a proto suit yet are going to get wrecked by everyone trying to capitalize on the new ISK payouts in the millions by running full proto.
Then I realized something.
Both teams will be running proto. I think this will actually have a counterbalancing effect that could be really good for the game.
Even if the player doesn't have full proto, if he has a good Mu rating he will place into even more challenging matches. It makes me wonder if the lower Mu people will have matches free of proto entirely or not. My guess is probably not but who knows.
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NextDark Knight
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
556
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Posted - 2014.11.05 00:51:00 -
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Early screenshot shown battles with Milita or Advance gear restrictions. This has never made it for public consumptions and hopes CCP will look into Millita only battles with lower isk and salvage rewards but higher skill reward.
Hell, Destiny has a mode where skills don't matter much..
Over 60+ Million SP and full proto in all Caldari Suits. No matter how hard CCP tries Dust just won't die on PS3/Xbox.
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DarthPlagueis TheWise
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Posted - 2014.11.05 00:53:00 -
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NextDark Knight wrote:Early screenshot shown battles with Milita or Advance gear restrictions. This has never made it for public consumptions and hopes CCP will look into Millita only battles with lower isk and salvage rewards but higher skill reward.
Hell, Destiny has a mode where skills don't matter much..
I think MLT only is kind of stupid, but nothing higher than ADV would be perfect. Then again MLT would be perfect for new players.
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Fizzer XCIV
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.11.05 00:54:00 -
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I want them to remove the team balancing... It absolutely fucks over skilled solo players such as myself. It expects us to carry a team of blueberries to victory against full proto squads.
I liked it better when it was random.
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DarthPlagueis TheWise
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Posted - 2014.11.05 00:54:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:I want them to remove the team balancing... It absolutely fucks over skilled solo players such as myself. It expects us to carry a team of blueberries to victory against full proto squads.
I liked it better when it was random.
I'll have to run some solo matches and test this at another time.
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
7344
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Posted - 2014.11.05 01:05:00 -
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I'm just gonna say: I've had nothing but hard battles today. It's freaking fantastic. So many people are coming back and everyone is spamming Proto like crazy.
10/10 I want every day to be like this.
Bullet Hell and Duct-Tape? Count me in!
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DarthPlagueis TheWise
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Posted - 2014.11.05 01:06:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:I'm just gonna say: I've had nothing but hard battles today. It's freaking fantastic. So many people are coming back and everyone is spamming Proto like crazy.
10/10 I want every day to be like this.
Yeah and just the opposite on our end, we don't have to save ISK anymore and we can stomp the holy ******* **** out of you guys now.
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
1586
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Posted - 2014.11.05 01:07:00 -
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DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote:I was thinking about how the new players who don't have a proto suit yet are going to get wrecked by everyone trying to capitalize on the new ISK payouts in the millions by running full proto.
Then I realized something.
Both teams will be running proto. I think this will actually have a counterbalancing effect that could be really good for the game.
Even if the player doesn't have full proto, if he has a good Mu rating he will place into even more challenging matches. It makes me wonder if the lower Mu people will have matches free of proto entirely or not. My guess is probably not but who knows. yes they do but hopfully not for long
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Ahkhomi Cypher
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.11.05 01:23:00 -
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Im gonna guess the isk payout is gonna go back to normal eventually. Good players are still gonna kill bad players. Proto or not. Risk vs Reward is gonna kick back in for players that cant sustain constant proto. Proto stomping will be back.
Its basically Dust's version of Income Tax Season. Everybody got new sneakers and a iPhone now. Flashing on Instagram and Facebook. It'll be back to normal eventually.
The struggle is coming.
Opus Arcana | TBD Ringleader
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DarthPlagueis TheWise
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Posted - 2014.11.05 01:27:00 -
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Ahkhomi Cypher wrote:Im gonna guess the isk payout is gonna go back to normal eventually. Good players are still gonna kill bad players. Proto or not. Risk vs Reward is gonna kick back in for players that cant sustain constant proto. Proto stomping will be back.
Its basically Dust's version of Income Tax Season. Everybody got new sneakers and a iPhone now. Flashing on Instagram and Facebook. It'll be back to normal eventually.
The struggle is coming.
No, the people who actually take this game seriously and perform well at it will be rewarded. I don't see a problem with people who are less skilled not being as highly rewarded.
In fact this is reversing the trend of people with little to no skill being rewarded just for running the proto. Now those of us who have been wallowing in lower meta gear struggling to kill proto now have the option to fight the damn bastards instead of keel over and accept the inevitable.
Bro... with payouts at the #1 spot on the leaderboard being over 10 million at times, you'd have to be a mentally challenged person not to profit off it.
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waistr
DEAD-MEN-WALKING
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Posted - 2014.11.05 01:46:00 -
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just wait with the SP increase it wont take long till we are back where we once were... sadly |
Ahkhomi Cypher
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
382
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Posted - 2014.11.05 01:49:00 -
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DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote:
Bro... with payouts at the #1 spot on the leaderboard being over 10 million at times, you'd have to be a mentally challenged person not to profit off it.
How long is this payout boost gonna last though? Once it does end (im assuming it will) and people are losing big chunks of isk each battle they'll stop running proto gear.
Opus Arcana | TBD Ringleader
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gustavo acosta
Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance
369
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Posted - 2014.11.05 01:54:00 -
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waistr wrote:just wait with the SP increase it wont take long till we are back where we once were... sadly Care to enlighten, I don't understand your reasoning
More SP=More Players with Proto
Larger Isk payouts=More Players who can sustain Proto
Everyone running proto is a theoretically perfect communistic world...
Gallente scout, heavy, logi, and assault
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
5172
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Posted - 2014.11.05 01:56:00 -
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waistr wrote:just wait with the SP increase it wont take long till we are back where we once were... sadly
Please explain.
People getting SP faster and specializing a role to its full potential in order to compete against proto using vets is sad how?
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
7353
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Posted - 2014.11.05 02:02:00 -
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DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:I'm just gonna say: I've had nothing but hard battles today. It's freaking fantastic. So many people are coming back and everyone is spamming Proto like crazy.
10/10 I want every day to be like this. Yeah and just the opposite on our end, we don't have to save ISK anymore and we can stomp the holy ******* **** out of you guys now.
Haven't lost a fight today.
You guys need to try harder, especially if you want to "Stomp" us.
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Denchlad 7
Dead Man's Game
1060
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Posted - 2014.11.05 02:03:00 -
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Today has been ridiculous. I haven't seen this many Proto-Stompers since I started the damn game. FA and NS squads gave bloody good fights to the DMG and RE squads I was in today. Actually had to use tactics, not melting people. Was fun.
Fighting with old Seraphim guys against 0H, FA, NS, etc. Damn. Today was a good day.
The Connoisseur of Weapons. 19/19 L5 P2.
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Fizzer XCIV
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
801
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Posted - 2014.11.05 02:06:00 -
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These increased ISK payouts destroy all the work CCP has put towards a better NPE by making Protosuit sustainable. They need to go. Protosuits were never meant to be sustainable.
Swag-suit4lyfe!
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gustavo acosta
Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance
370
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Posted - 2014.11.05 02:26:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:These increased ISK payouts destroy all the work CCP has put towards a better NPE by making Protosuit sustainable. They need to go. Protosuits were never meant to be sustainable. But now protosuits can be accessed relatively easily by all. Though it is a bit socialisitc for my taste and the precedents set by the past payouts and skill gains.
Oh well the game will still be pretty fun
Gallente scout, heavy, logi, and assault
Eternal Can I haz ur isk?
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Fizzer XCIV
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
803
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Posted - 2014.11.05 02:31:00 -
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gustavo acosta wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:These increased ISK payouts destroy all the work CCP has put towards a better NPE by making Protosuit sustainable. They need to go. Protosuits were never meant to be sustainable. But now protosuits can be accessed relatively easily by all. Though it is a bit socialisitc for my taste and the precedents set by the past payouts and skill gains. Oh well the game will still be pretty fun No. It makes the NPE terrible by forcing them to fight protousers.
There is supposed to be a reason to not use prototype stuff.
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Lloyd Orfay
SHAKING BABIES FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE
165
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Posted - 2014.11.05 02:58:00 -
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DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote:I was thinking about how the new players who don't have a proto suit yet are going to get wrecked by everyone trying to capitalize on the new ISK payouts in the millions by running full proto.
Then I realized something.
Both teams will be running proto. I think this will actually have a counterbalancing effect that could be really good for the game.
Even if the player doesn't have full proto, if he has a good Mu rating he will place into even more challenging matches. It makes me wonder if the lower Mu people will have matches free of proto entirely or not. My guess is probably not but who knows.
Nope.
Not everyone will be using boosters, so there will be more protostomps |
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