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Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
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Posted - 2014.11.04 21:34:00 -
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KA24DERT wrote:AA doesn't belong in any serious competitive shooter.
But anywho, Legion will make this whole argument moot.
PC gamers will not tolerate a bunch of scrubs running around with robotic marksmanship and bullet path bending super powers.
The real problem is going to be rebalancing the whole game in an environment where people can actually MISS their shots.
I know right, thats why you never see an aimbot in a pc fps Oh wait...
Seriously though everyone bitching about the aim assist that also thinks moving to PC will save the day is a moron |
CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.11.04 21:36:00 -
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KA24DERT wrote:AA doesn't belong in any serious competitive shooter.
But anywho, Legion will make this whole argument moot.
PC gamers will not tolerate a bunch of scrubs running around with robotic marksmanship and bullet path bending super powers.
The real problem is going to be rebalancing the whole game in an environment where people can actually MISS their shots.
Could you imagine counter strike or BF4 competitive play with aim assist? No I didn't think so.
You know its not even a 'console thing'. There have been many shooting games on consoles over the years that did not have aim assist.
If you need aim assist in a game there are literally only 2 reasons.
A. The shooting mechanics are screwy and need some fine tuning.
B. You need to practice you aim instead of relying on 'bots' to aim for you.
Seriously I really hope we get Legion. I can't wait to at least play on even terms. Yes I realise this is a console game and the DS3 is the native control method but CCP promised us old EVE players that KB/M would be fully supported. (I suppose they didnt say that it wouldn't be gimped.....clever CCP.)
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Grease Spillett
Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment.
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Posted - 2014.11.04 21:38:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:Seriously how can anyone think that aim assist in an FPS game is a good thing? Its a cheating mechanic. Don't give me your bullshit excuses, AA has no place in an FPS games other than to appease **** bastards that cannot aim.
I am 100 percent good with aa going off as soon as kbm is removed.
Next time you see me, bring more friends.
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.04 21:44:00 -
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Grease Spillett wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:Seriously how can anyone think that aim assist in an FPS game is a good thing? Its a cheating mechanic. Don't give me your bullshit excuses, AA has no place in an FPS games other than to appease **** bastards that cannot aim. I am 100 percent good with aa going off as soon as kbm is removed.
It's not just this though...AA and other parts of the shooting mechanics of the game balance the playing field for player skill.
If you have the shooting mechanics/AA so bare bones that the best player vs the worst player is 1 million times better as opposed to only 1000 times better...you foster a game where only the hardcore will play, which is bad for business.
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Lloyd Orfay
SHAKING BABIES FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE
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Posted - 2014.11.04 21:46:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:With FPS (apparently) improving they might tone down aim assist a bit. I wouldn't completely turn it off though.
Aim assist is nearly non existent on the guns right now (unless it was changed prior to 1.9 update)
Removing it would be quite a nonsensical idea since humans cannot achieve the same precision coordinating movements with a controller than they would with a mouse.
Insane but good way to clean dust of highlifes: give all players character biomassing snipers
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KA24DERT
TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.11.04 21:46:00 -
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Grease Spillett wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:Seriously how can anyone think that aim assist in an FPS game is a good thing? Its a cheating mechanic. Don't give me your bullshit excuses, AA has no place in an FPS games other than to appease **** bastards that cannot aim. I am 100 percent good with aa going off as soon as kbm is removed. Careful, those KBMs are everywhere.
Lurking under your bed.
Super strafing after you while you're getting your groceries.
Topping the Dust leaderboards... oh wait. |
KA24DERT
TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.11.04 21:47:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:Grease Spillett wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:Seriously how can anyone think that aim assist in an FPS game is a good thing? Its a cheating mechanic. Don't give me your bullshit excuses, AA has no place in an FPS games other than to appease **** bastards that cannot aim. I am 100 percent good with aa going off as soon as kbm is removed. It's not just this though...AA and other parts of the shooting mechanics of the game balance the playing field for player skill. If you have the shooting mechanics/AA so bare bones that the best player vs the worst player is 1 million times better as opposed to only 1000 times better...you foster a game where only the hardcore will play, which is bad for business. Yeah, that's why TF2 is dead and has no casual players. |
el OPERATOR
Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.04 21:52:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:KA24DERT wrote:AA doesn't belong in any serious competitive shooter.
But anywho, Legion will make this whole argument moot.
PC gamers will not tolerate a bunch of scrubs running around with robotic marksmanship and bullet path bending super powers.
The real problem is going to be rebalancing the whole game in an environment where people can actually MISS their shots. I know right, thats why you never see an aimbot in a pc fps Oh wait... Seriously though everyone bitching about DUST514 that also thinks moving to PC will save the day is a moron
FTFY
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Jebus McKing
lol Proto
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Posted - 2014.11.04 21:53:00 -
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MAG did not have AA.
But then again, controls in MAG were REAAAAAALLY precise and hitdetection was much better than DUST.
If controls and hitdetection are fixed then we can tone down AA.
DUST514 is love // @JebusMcKing
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KA24DERT
TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.11.06 01:14:00 -
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Jebus McKing wrote:MAG did not have AA.
But then again, controls in MAG were REAAAAAALLY precise and hitdetection was much better than DUST.
If controls and hitdetection are fixed then we can tone down AA.
A lot of people don't realize how broken hit detection still is in this game.
Play mass driver or plasma cannon a few times and you'll get upset with the amount of times your round flies THROUGH someone without hurting them.
AA is a huge bandaid over that problem, but everyone's too busy being impressed with their own impeccable marksmanship to notice. |
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