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jhon hartigan
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.11.04 09:48:00 -
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Read this.
CCP Rattati wrote:That's probably why Missile launchers on Pythons as a combo rank number 4 in PC kills, and the Proto XT-1 Missile Launcher ranks top 4 of PC kills, for the last two weeks
Kills Weapons, Heavy, Heavy Machine Guns, Prototype, Boundless Heavy Machine Gun Weapons, Light, Shotguns, Prototype, Duvolle Specialist Shotgun Weapons, Light, Shotguns, Prototype, CreoDron Shotgun Turrets, Missile, Small, Prototype, XT-1 Missile Launcher Weapons, Light, Combat Rifles, Prototype, Six Kin Assault Combat Rifle Weapons, Heavy, Heavy Machine Guns, Prototype, Six Kin Burst Heavy Machine Gun Weapons, Light, Rail Rifles, Prototype, Kaalakiota Rail Rifle
Kills by Actor(Pawn) and Weapon Dropsuits, Heavy, Sentinel, Prototype, Sentinel ak.0&Weapons, Heavy, Heavy Machine Guns, Prototype, Boundless Heavy Machine Gun Dropsuits, Heavy, Sentinel, Prototype, Sentinel gk.0& Weapons, Heavy, Heavy Machine Guns, Prototype, Boundless Heavy Machine Gun Dropsuits, Light, Scout, Prototype, Scout gk.0&Weapons, Light, Shotguns, Prototype, Duvolle Specialist Shotgun Vehicles, Dropships, Assault, Python& Turrets, Missile, Small, Prototype, XT-1 Missile Launcher Dropsuits, Light, Scout, Prototype, Scout gk.0& Weapons, Light, Shotguns, Prototype, CreoDron Shotgun Dropsuits, Heavy, Sentinel, Prototype, Sentinel ck.0&Weapons, Heavy, Heavy Machine Guns, Prototype, Boundless Heavy Machine Gun Vehicles, Heavy Attack Vehicles, Standard, Gunnlogi&Turrets, Railgun, Large, Prototype, 80GJ Particle Cannon No assaults (lol), no lolmando.... Totally balanced! |
Sinboto Simmons
Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment.
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Posted - 2014.11.04 09:49:00 -
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Notice the ACR is used more than the normal CR.
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Sinboto Simmons
Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment.
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Posted - 2014.11.04 10:00:00 -
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also no minmatar
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Apothecary Za'ki
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Posted - 2014.11.04 10:02:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Notice the ACR is used more than the normal CR. thats because SCOUTS! before damage profile was "fixed"
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Apothecary Za'ki
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Posted - 2014.11.04 10:04:00 -
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jhon hartigan wrote:Read this. CCP Rattati wrote:That's probably why Missile launchers on Pythons as a combo rank number 4 in PC kills, and the Proto XT-1 Missile Launcher ranks top 4 of PC kills, for the last two weeks
Kills Weapons, Heavy, Heavy Machine Guns, Prototype, Boundless Heavy Machine Gun Weapons, Light, Shotguns, Prototype, Duvolle Specialist Shotgun Weapons, Light, Shotguns, Prototype, CreoDron Shotgun Turrets, Missile, Small, Prototype, XT-1 Missile Launcher Weapons, Light, Combat Rifles, Prototype, Six Kin Assault Combat Rifle Weapons, Heavy, Heavy Machine Guns, Prototype, Six Kin Burst Heavy Machine Gun Weapons, Light, Rail Rifles, Prototype, Kaalakiota Rail Rifle
Kills by Actor(Pawn) and Weapon Dropsuits, Heavy, Sentinel, Prototype, Sentinel ak.0&Weapons, Heavy, Heavy Machine Guns, Prototype, Boundless Heavy Machine Gun Dropsuits, Heavy, Sentinel, Prototype, Sentinel gk.0& Weapons, Heavy, Heavy Machine Guns, Prototype, Boundless Heavy Machine Gun Dropsuits, Light, Scout, Prototype, Scout gk.0&Weapons, Light, Shotguns, Prototype, Duvolle Specialist Shotgun Vehicles, Dropships, Assault, Python& Turrets, Missile, Small, Prototype, XT-1 Missile Launcher Dropsuits, Light, Scout, Prototype, Scout gk.0& Weapons, Light, Shotguns, Prototype, CreoDron Shotgun Dropsuits, Heavy, Sentinel, Prototype, Sentinel ck.0&Weapons, Heavy, Heavy Machine Guns, Prototype, Boundless Heavy Machine Gun Vehicles, Heavy Attack Vehicles, Standard, Gunnlogi&Turrets, Railgun, Large, Prototype, 80GJ Particle Cannon No assaults (lol), no lolmando.... Totally balanced! what do you expect people either go scout to hunt scouts(self perpetuating) or they go heavy to try mow down the scouts.. lolmando is too fat for a "heavy assault" type suit.. and Assaults are still getting out shined by scout suits in all areas
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Sinboto Simmons
Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment.
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Posted - 2014.11.04 10:04:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:Notice the ACR is used more than the normal CR. thats because SCOUTS! before damage profile was "fixed" Hardly see what scouts have to do with the ACR, clarify.
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jhon hartigan
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.11.04 10:10:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:Notice the ACR is used more than the normal CR. thats because SCOUTS! before damage profile was "fixed" That's not only because of scouts, that s also because of sentinels. As you can See they are the most used in PC. And scouts after them. Scouts counter sentinels and other scouts, sentinels counter everything. No room for assaults and commando. Logis are used only because they can support the sentinel-spam.
Come on, shotguns and hmgs should be situational weapons, the most used should be light rifles. How are this"""cqc""" the most used? Something is completely wrong with this. |
jhon hartigan
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.11.04 10:48:00 -
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No opinions on this? I guess it is clear to everyone that commando and assaults need a buff! |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2014.11.04 10:54:00 -
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Removing Sentinels from CQC and making them ranged fire support fixes this thread's problem more or less instantly.
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Jack McReady
Dust University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.11.04 10:57:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Notice the ACR is used more than the normal CR. ACR are easier to user than CR and also need less CPU to fit |
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DarthPlagueis TheWise
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Posted - 2014.11.04 11:01:00 -
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This seems to imply that the majority of PC matches have taken place in city maps.
Because I guaran ******* tee you a lot of the CR and RR users from that list were scouts on more open field maps where the objective doesn't provide much cover.
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jhon hartigan
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.11.04 11:06:00 -
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DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote:This seems to imply that the majority of PC matches have taken place in city maps.
Because I guaran ******* tee you a lot of the CR and RR users from that list were scouts on more open field maps where the objective doesn't provide much cover. No the spam of scouts and sentinels is Incredible even in open maps. For example that map with A on the bridge, there is a Big spam of sentinels even in D, A and E... That are outside. |
Jack McReady
Dust University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.11.04 11:13:00 -
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DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote:This seems to imply that the majority of PC matches have taken place in city maps.
Because I guaran ******* tee you a lot of the CR and RR users from that list were scouts on more open field maps where the objective doesn't provide much cover. objectives are around cover and buildings.
simply take an LAV, and move to objective. there is not point in staying in the open as there is nothing of value. |
DarthPlagueis TheWise
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Posted - 2014.11.04 11:24:00 -
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they really need to add some maps to PC
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Meee One
Amakakeru-Ryu-no-Hirameki
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Posted - 2014.11.04 11:25:00 -
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jhon hartigan wrote:DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote:This seems to imply that the majority of PC matches have taken place in city maps.
Because I guaran ******* tee you a lot of the CR and RR users from that list were scouts on more open field maps where the objective doesn't provide much cover. No the spam of scouts and sentinels is Incredible even in open maps. For example that map with A on the bridge, there is a Big spam of sentinels even in D, A and E... That are outside. It's because thousands of eHP is king (sentinels) and can only be countered by OHK extreme speed (sg scouts). I agree with that jab about logistics,without equipment bonuses they would disappear from PCs.
Mediums are just too middle ground to compete. Then again,16vs16 is very limited when you have 5 points to defend. You have to use the most effective suits to squeeze maximum performance out of such limiting numbers.
32vs32 would give enough wiggle room to play around with. Other than that,unless they remove scouts and sets from the game,get used to it.
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Darrius Smithmage
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Posted - 2014.11.04 11:27:00 -
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I like my clamando the way it is just because something is under used does not mean it allways needs a buff.
CalFW roleplayer I'm the calmando power ranger run from my megazord the state gunlogi >:D. Kirjuun Heiian Player.
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jhon hartigan
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.11.04 11:29:00 -
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Darrius Smithmage wrote:I like my clamando the way it is just because something is under used does not mean it allways needs a buff. Do you use it in Public or in PC? Just because you can do quite good with it doesn't mean it doesn't need a buff! Also, I use assault in PC but I m like the only one or there is a couple of other assaults between 32 players. |
Darrius Smithmage
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Posted - 2014.11.04 11:32:00 -
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jhon hartigan wrote:Darrius Smithmage wrote:I like my clamando the way it is just because something is under used does not mean it allways needs a buff. Do you use it in Public or in PC? Just because you can do quite good with it doesn't mean it doesn't need a buff! Also, I use assault in PC but I m like the only one or there is a couple of other assaults between 32 players. I use it in fw. Pc is inrelavent because there no point of it. And I only play pubs and do well with it when calfw not up . If it needs a buff example what buff it needs because I think it current bonus is fine and balance.
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Darrius Smithmage
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Posted - 2014.11.04 11:33:00 -
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jhon hartigan wrote:Darrius Smithmage wrote:I like my clamando the way it is just because something is under used does not mean it allways needs a buff. Do you use it in Public or in PC? Just because you can do quite good with it doesn't mean it doesn't need a buff! Also, I use assault in PC but I m like the only one or there is a couple of other assaults between 32 players. I use it in fw. Pc is inrelavent because there no point of it. And I only play pubs and do well with it when calfw not up . If it needs a buff example what buff it needs because I think it current bonus is fine and balance.
CalFW roleplayer I'm the calmando power ranger run from my megazord the state gunlogi >:D. Kirjuun Heiian Player.
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DarthPlagueis TheWise
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Posted - 2014.11.04 11:33:00 -
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You guys need to stop saying heavies and scouts are the problem. The problem with PC is there are only city maps and the bridge map.
Assaults and Commandos do very well outside of PC, and I'd be willing to bet it's simply because of a bigger variety of maps.
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jhon hartigan
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.11.04 11:40:00 -
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DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote:You guys need to stop saying heavies and scouts are the problem. The problem with PC is there are only city maps and the bridge map.
Assaults and Commandos do very well outside of PC, and I'd be willing to bet it's simply because of a bigger variety of maps. Man, think of bridge map, ok? There is a city... And three objectives(A D E) that are outside, in open field. You could think you will see assaults and Commandos destroy scouts and sentinels out there like sentinels/scouts destroy assaults/commando in the city. But no! What you see is again sentinels and scouts fighting each over... And only a couple of assaults here and there.
You can not say the commando is fine when you only play pubs and fws, PC is a different thing. |
Darrius Smithmage
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Posted - 2014.11.04 11:52:00 -
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jhon hartigan wrote:DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote:You guys need to stop saying heavies and scouts are the problem. The problem with PC is there are only city maps and the bridge map.
Assaults and Commandos do very well outside of PC, and I'd be willing to bet it's simply because of a bigger variety of maps. Man, think of bridge map, ok? There is a city... And three objectives(A D E) that are outside, in open field. You could think you will see assaults and Commandos destroy scouts and sentinels out there like sentinels/scouts destroy assaults/commando in the city. But no! What you see is again sentinels and scouts fighting each over... And only a couple of assaults here and there. You can not say the commando is fine when you only play pubs and fws, PC is a different thing. I'm starting to see your point but you allso need to see pc is nit everything pubs and fw are you can't not do pc whenever you want so balanceing anything because of 1 less played game mode make more sense. Again I see you kepp trying to say commando need help but you have not given a me what is needed to make them better you just keeo saying that there not allright. Not saying your wrong but you have not pointed out what wrong with them and what needs improvement. I hate to do this but pc is like league of legends there a meta in both of them. And right knwo commandos do nit fit in the pc meta.
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Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.11.04 11:58:00 -
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Remember all those PC corps who uses to cry don't balance the game according to pubs, only use stats from PC... |
jhon hartigan
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Posted - 2014.11.04 12:00:00 -
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Darrius Smithmage wrote:jhon hartigan wrote:DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote:You guys need to stop saying heavies and scouts are the problem. The problem with PC is there are only city maps and the bridge map.
Assaults and Commandos do very well outside of PC, and I'd be willing to bet it's simply because of a bigger variety of maps. Man, think of bridge map, ok? There is a city... And three objectives(A D E) that are outside, in open field. You could think you will see assaults and Commandos destroy scouts and sentinels out there like sentinels/scouts destroy assaults/commando in the city. But no! What you see is again sentinels and scouts fighting each over... And only a couple of assaults here and there. You can not say the commando is fine when you only play pubs and fws, PC is a different thing. I'm starting to see your point but you allso need to see pc is nit everything pubs and fw are you can't not do pc whenever you want so balanceing anything because of 1 less played game mode make more sense. Again I see you kepp trying to say commando need help but you have not given a me what is needed to make them better you just keeo saying that there not allright. Not saying your wrong but you have not pointed out what wrong with them and what needs improvement. I hate to do this but pc is like league of legends there a meta in both of them. And right knwo commandos do nit fit in the pc meta. This bring us to the old question? Should we balance the game to pubs or PC?
Also I actually dont know how to properly buff Commandos and assaults, that s not my job, I might think of a solution of it but this isnt the aim of this thread. The aim of this thread was to clearly show how, in PC, assaults and Commandos are underpowered, it can be seen clearly in game, or from these numbers that the glorious Rattati gave us. |
Darrius Smithmage
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Posted - 2014.11.04 12:01:00 -
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jhon hartigan wrote:Darrius Smithmage wrote:jhon hartigan wrote:DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote:You guys need to stop saying heavies and scouts are the problem. The problem with PC is there are only city maps and the bridge map.
Assaults and Commandos do very well outside of PC, and I'd be willing to bet it's simply because of a bigger variety of maps. Man, think of bridge map, ok? There is a city... And three objectives(A D E) that are outside, in open field. You could think you will see assaults and Commandos destroy scouts and sentinels out there like sentinels/scouts destroy assaults/commando in the city. But no! What you see is again sentinels and scouts fighting each over... And only a couple of assaults here and there. You can not say the commando is fine when you only play pubs and fws, PC is a different thing. I'm starting to see your point but you allso need to see pc is nit everything pubs and fw are you can't not do pc whenever you want so balanceing anything because of 1 less played game mode make more sense. Again I see you kepp trying to say commando need help but you have not given a me what is needed to make them better you just keeo saying that there not allright. Not saying your wrong but you have not pointed out what wrong with them and what needs improvement. I hate to do this but pc is like league of legends there a meta in both of them. And right knwo commandos do nit fit in the pc meta. This bring us to the old question? Should we balance the game to pubs or PC? Also I actually dont know how to properly buff Commandos and assaults, that s not my job, I might think of a solution of it but this isnt the aim of this thread. The aim of this thread was to clearly show how, in PC, assaults and Commandos are underpowered, it can be seen clearly in game, or from these numbers that the glorious Rattati gave us. I see.
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