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Nirwanda Vaughns
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Posted - 2014.11.04 09:40:00 -
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to be honest the range of the hmgs at present is pretty stupid. they were supposed to be short range high damage point defense roles. and yeah if you're in an ADV sentinel with MH-82 and high skills you should be able to take down 3-4 starter fits without too much trouble. i don't think its to much of an issue of the overheating that limits what the hmg can do but more clip size and reload speed. perhaps instead of having the assault have more range (which is barely noticable compared to standard now) have it with slightly less damage but a higher clip size of say 550 rounds, increase heat build up by a point or 2 and knock reload time down by couple of seconds, something suited for longer engagements until backup can have a chance of getting there.
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Nirwanda Vaughns
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Posted - 2014.11.04 09:48:00 -
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calvin b wrote:Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:to be honest the range of the hmgs at present is pretty stupid. they were supposed to be short range high damage point defense roles. and yeah if you're in an ADV sentinel with MH-82 and high skills you should be able to take down 3-4 starter fits without too much trouble. i don't think its to much of an issue of the overheating that limits what the hmg can do but more clip size and reload speed. perhaps instead of having the assault have more range (which is barely noticable compared to standard now) have it with slightly less damage but a higher clip size of say 550 rounds, increase heat build up by a point or 2 and knock reload time down by couple of seconds, something suited for longer engagements until backup can have a chance of getting there. Thank you for that sensible answer. I do not have a problem with reload or clip size, It is the fact when your holding a point and get rushed. You take down the first 2-3 then your gun seizes up and your dead.
might be worth them looking at lowering damage and overheat slightly then and increasing clip size, keeping the dps same over time but just allow for longer engagements. the burst is supposed to be the quick short engagments before a long reload, have basic HMG as sustained fire back liek it used to be
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Nirwanda Vaughns
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Posted - 2014.11.04 10:28:00 -
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folk seem to be skipping over the point calvin said about it being non militia/starter fits and not a general "i want to HMG to decimate a team of protos coz i is the shizzle" the point i got from the post is that all HMGs are focused on short sharp engagements now when 12months ago there was variety in the HMGs. assault had a range 20-30m over the basic, now a boundless hits out at 50m anyway, the burst was for short CQC tight maps, cutting down small groups of players but with a big risk of overheating. what we need is the old heavy/hmg and a logi that can stick to a point in skirmish and not specifically kill a squad of reddots solo but hold them of long enough that backup has a chance to get there which is why i proposed the lower damage and heat build up but with a larger clip size and make reload longer, it allows a heavy to ward off a small group of would be attackers or kill 1 or 2 that turn up in an LAV.
i have an alt similar to as what someone posted and when you're on the move with a prof 5 MH-82/Boundless with a logi behind you, you can destroy folk. a proper point defense of staying within a 20-30m range of a hack point with wave after wave of reddots is another play style entirely and its one that heavy users have moved away from. player mentality now has moved away from strategic placement of squads in skirmish and PCs and players don't have the patience to wait at a designated defend spot, the CoD style 'run and gun' mentality is winning over, heavies are running kinkats and sprinting around maps like assaults on whatever the hell kinda steroids The Rock is on and tearign stuff up whereas before they were more stationary roles hovering around a point with a logi having a cup of coffee and a smoke waiting for reddots to come stand in front the hmg for ya
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