DUST Search - Swarms Are So Stupid

STYLIE77 wrote:

I have hit an Incubus with 3 volleys of Prof. 5 swarms and it survived.

I run minmando as a main and swarm in PC to keep ADS out of the city or support an outside letter.

You are in fact dead wrong, there are fits that can tank three volleys as I often need a forge to help me take them down before they can kill me, and most often I die to ADS.

All you need to win PC is 3 ADS and 13 Scouts...

Course I am loving the pilots with Rail side gunners that hover at 200 meters and kill me since I can't lock on past 173 meters while getting shot in the back by shotguns or headshot by snipers.

Most of the ADS in PC are being shot down by rail tanks, and often the rail tanks go negative VS the Incubus pilots for their trouble.

Another big chunk of pythons and incubus have to be rammed by other dropships just to get a moments breathing room for infantry that is being chewed up by the pilots.

ADS DOMINATE almost every game mode by uplink placement, uplink destruction, and by providing intel on enemy positions.

They shouldn't be able to survive a 20 minute match, let alone in PC but I see them do it week in and week out.


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Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation 295	Posted - 2014.11.04 12:30:00 - [1] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Both ADS's can survive 3 swarms if fit properly and all ADS can avoid getting hit with 3 swarms if piloted properly. If the Python is viable in PC, even though Swarms are omg so OP, by proxy the Incubus is fine, especially with the ROF issue fixed in the last balance hotfix. This is widely reported by players. Apart from the fact that 90% of Dust doesn't do PC, about 100% of PC matches would rather have forge guns on rooftops than swarms, and Pc is widley recognized as a broken game mechanic things have impoved by proxy lol means absolutely nothing. I can use that to justify any thing. The feedback on ROF by all incubus pilots was thats its better than before (as in not shooting less rounds than a militia turret any more'' but still crap. Got to call you out on this one, because the 'widley reported claim' is a fallacy. Same as a fit ADS can tank three swars, certainly not three proto swarms, and my incubus has as much HP as one can possible fit on it. The math has been done to death, and you are just plain wrong. Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation 298	Posted - 2014.11.04 12:56:00 - [2] - Quote ^^ this. Also killing tanks is part of flying AV, fighting tanks mean getting as low down and dirty as any python pilot. Attacking the enemy python who is already low and picking on the blues also means being damn low to the ground after making a pass. generally sweeping past any and all AV nests (roof top or otherwise) along the way. Then you are an added disadvantage by fitting an AV turret thats useless on the nose for anti infantry ( and by proxy swarms). But it okay, my incubus is fine because PC. Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation 300	Posted - 2014.11.04 18:40:00 - [3] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Oh, I thought militia swarms were the problem. ??? Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation 300	Posted - 2014.11.04 19:05:00 - [4] - Quote STYLIE77 wrote: I have hit an Incubus with 3 volleys of Prof. 5 swarms and it survived. I run minmando as a main and swarm in PC to keep ADS out of the city or support an outside letter. You are in fact dead wrong, there are fits that can tank three volleys as I often need a forge to help me take them down before they can kill me, and most often I die to ADS. All you need to win PC is 3 ADS and 13 Scouts... Course I am loving the pilots with Rail side gunners that hover at 200 meters and kill me since I can't lock on past 173 meters while getting shot in the back by shotguns or headshot by snipers. Most of the ADS in PC are being shot down by rail tanks, and often the rail tanks go negative VS the Incubus pilots for their trouble. Another big chunk of pythons and incubus have to be rammed by other dropships just to get a moments breathing room for infantry that is being chewed up by the pilots. ADS DOMINATE almost every game mode by uplink placement, uplink destruction, and by providing intel on enemy positions. They shouldn't be able to survive a 20 minute match, let alone in PC but I see them do it week in and week out. PC is irrelevant when balancing something for all of Dust, not just one broken game mode a tiny minority of players participate in. I'm sure16 players in one team decked out in full proto, Corp sponsorship to call in as many dropships as is necessary, and a team of heavy side gunners to clear out a roof is exactly what happens in every pub match. Uplink placement is dominating a match to you? Seriously. Wow, in tank vs dropship scenario, the fast flying thing does better than the triple damage mod slow crawling thing...huge surprise there... But you did list all of things that do happen to droships in a normal match, get shot down by red line rail tanks, forge guns, swarms, rammed, bump into a wall and explode, yet you're not saying dropships get so many kills they're OP, just that ''they manage to live! qq, Survival is OP!'' The reaction to when pilots, not listing all of the various ways they do get killed, merely mention swarms right now are inescapable is ridiculous. Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation 300	Posted - 2014.11.04 19:17:00 - [5] - Quote Michael Epic wrote: But yet do you take the time to figure out how to work around the existing things? ADS is (in my opinion) a pretty unfair advantage. You want to sit in the sky and drop death all over the infantry without being killed. You should be effing scared dude....you want to sit in the sky like a coward and be untouchable instead of being on the ground CQC with the rest of us. Join me in the sky then. Its not my fault you ground pounders are stuck hiding under little rocks and that your COd mindset leaves you too dumb to do anything but drool walk and shoot. 10-0 from the sky I'm freaking OP. 30-3 from the ground= Balance. forum logic. Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.