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I-Shayz-I
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Posted - 2014.11.03 21:55:00 -
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I have 50 million sp yet feel underpowered.
There's nowhere I can put my sp in order to gain any more advantages. I can use the best gear available and still die faster by a mlt hmg than I can deal damage with a boundless. I try to use a scrambler to take out caldari scouts when a shotgun or even a mass driver works better.
Even as a logi I feel dissatisfied because I can't even be out in the open long enough to rep someone before I'm killed without any time to react.
What happened to this game? I thought it got better, all the weapon balances got me excited, and 1.9 was going to be the most awesome thing...but even the blueberries are better than I am?
I can't take it anymore. This is the last game with a functional medic system and even my group of proto sentinels and logis can be bested by one lone caldari scout.
My scrambler is the only weapon I have now that feels like I have power, and I still can't hit people with it like they can me with their combat rifles and ARs from 100 meters away.
I feel pathetic, useless. Like now I'm that blueberry on the team who can't even get 500 wp. Am I missing something? Did I miss an update where everything got screwed up or am I just the odd case where everything get better for everyone except me?
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.11.03 21:57:00 -
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The logi system is pretty frustrating TBF.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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Tebu Gan
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1224
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Posted - 2014.11.03 21:59:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:I have 50 million sp yet feel underpowered.
There's nowhere I can put my sp in order to gain any more advantages. I can use the best gear available and still die faster by a mlt hmg than I can deal damage with a boundless. I try to use a scrambler to take out caldari scouts when a shotgun or even a mass driver works better.
Even as a logi I feel dissatisfied because I can't even be out in the open long enough to rep someone before I'm killed without any time to react.
What happened to this game? I thought it got better, all the weapon balances got me excited, and 1.9 was going to be the most awesome thing...but even the blueberries are better than I am?
I can't take it anymore. This is the last game with a functional medic system and even my group of proto sentinels and logis can be bested by one lone caldari scout and a CR, melting the heavies like they had 300 hp
My scrambler is the only weapon I have now that feels like I have power, and I still can't hit people with it like they can me with their combat rifles and ARs from 100 meters away...I thought these were short range weapons are they not?
I feel pathetic, useless. Like now I'm that blueberry on the team who can't even get 500 wp. Am I missing something? Did I miss an update where everything got screwed up or am I just the odd case where everything get better for everyone except me?
bleh, If I wanted that feeling I could go play COD. And actually have a story mode to play!
Tanks - Balancing Turrets
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CharacterNameWasTaken
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
185
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Posted - 2014.11.03 21:59:00 -
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Lady MDK
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.11.03 22:01:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:I have 50 million sp yet feel underpowered.
There's nowhere I can put my sp in order to gain any more advantages. I can use the best gear available and still die faster by a mlt hmg than I can deal damage with a boundless. I try to use a scrambler to take out caldari scouts when a shotgun or even a mass driver works better.
Even as a logi I feel dissatisfied because I can't even be out in the open long enough to rep someone before I'm killed without any time to react.
What happened to this game? I thought it got better, all the weapon balances got me excited, and 1.9 was going to be the most awesome thing...but even the blueberries are better than I am?
I can't take it anymore. This is the last game with a functional medic system and even my group of proto sentinels and logis can be bested by one lone caldari scout and a CR, melting the heavies like they had 300 hp
My scrambler is the only weapon I have now that feels like I have power, and I still can't hit people with it like they can me with their combat rifles and ARs from 100 meters away...I thought these were short range weapons are they not?
I feel pathetic, useless. Like now I'm that blueberry on the team who can't even get 500 wp. Am I missing something? Did I miss an update where everything got screwed up or am I just the odd case where everything get better for everyone except me?
I bet I would make you look good..... i mean for goodness sake i must be the only casual beta player left with a kd of less than .5 and thats on my main.
Anyone getting annoyed by reading of the above post should consider the following.
I don't care so neither should you :)
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hfderrtgvcd
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Posted - 2014.11.03 22:01:00 -
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don't worry about doing "good". Just have some fun. Run a nova knife scout or a dual plc commando. Alternatively, you could git gud and HTFU.
You can't fight in here! This is the war room.
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Riruodo
Templar Investigative Commission
390
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Posted - 2014.11.03 22:04:00 -
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I feel the same way but I think it's because I'm pretty scrubby. With you (and considering that you have like 55 million sp) I just think you are a victim of Mu placing. You're probably really good, but the match making system has it out for you.
Utena Tenjou is my prince in shining armor.
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I-Shayz-I
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Posted - 2014.11.03 22:05:00 -
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I should buy a respec, get caldari scout 5 and shotgun prof 5 to go be a scrub like everyone else.
Oh, and core locus grenades. Geez
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Spaceman-Rob
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
573
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Posted - 2014.11.03 22:07:00 -
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Happens to us all mate, you win some you lose some. One minute your on top of your game, the next minute your up against someone on the top of theirs, life's a *****, pick yourself up, Dust yourself off and go at it again tomorrow. |
Son-Of A-Gun
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
1416
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Posted - 2014.11.03 22:08:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:I have 50 million sp yet feel underpowered.
There's nowhere I can put my sp in order to gain any more advantages. I can use the best gear available and still die faster by a mlt hmg than I can deal damage with a boundless. I try to use a scrambler to take out caldari scouts when a shotgun or even a mass driver works better.
Even as a logi I feel dissatisfied because I can't even be out in the open long enough to rep someone before I'm killed without any time to react.
What happened to this game? I thought it got better, all the weapon balances got me excited, and 1.9 was going to be the most awesome thing...but even the blueberries are better than I am?
I can't take it anymore. This is the last game with a functional medic system and even my group of proto sentinels and logis can be bested by one lone caldari scout and a CR, melting the heavies like they had 300 hp
My scrambler is the only weapon I have now that feels like I have power, and I still can't hit people with it like they can me with their combat rifles and ARs from 100 meters away...I thought these were short range weapons are they not?
I feel pathetic, useless. Like now I'm that blueberry on the team who can't even get 500 wp. Am I missing something? Did I miss an update where everything got screwed up or am I just the odd case where everything get better for everyone except me?
40 mil SP here, everything's feelin' just fine for me.
Laser rifles meltin' faces.
Going 1.5k to 2k+ war points in an ambush with my Gal logi.
Runin' a muck with my Ganja and his ACR.
Gal assaults fantastic.
Melting faces and tac, tac, tacin away with my LR and BrAR on my commando.
Don't play my heavy much, so...
Hum, everything seems fine to me.
{:)}{3GÇó>
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PO0KY
Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment.
1232
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Posted - 2014.11.03 22:09:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:I should buy a respec, get caldari scout 5 and shotgun prof 5 to go be a scrub like everyone else.
Oh, and core locus grenades. Geez If that'd what it takes to do "good" then why not?
I'm so helpful.
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Quasar Storm
0uter.Heaven
271
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Posted - 2014.11.03 22:09:00 -
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Bah humbug!
ADS & Tank pilot.
Drifting on Stormy Seas.
The "Eh" Team
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Sinboto Simmons
Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment.
6396
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Posted - 2014.11.03 22:12:00 -
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we all have those times, try something new for a bit like melee scout, sometimes ya just get hit by the FU train and need to get back on the tracks.
Oh and yeah TTK is short, er than before, but as a vet you'll be fine I think.
Stuck with 'er this long.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 1
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
1551
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Posted - 2014.11.03 22:18:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:I have 55 million sp yet feel underpowered.
There's nowhere I can put my sp in order to gain any more advantages. I can use the best gear available and still die faster by a mlt hmg than I can deal damage with a boundless. I try to use a scrambler to take out caldari scouts when a shotgun or even a mass driver works better.
Even as a logi I feel dissatisfied because I can't even be out in the open long enough to rep someone before I'm killed without any time to react.
What happened to this game? I thought it got better, all the weapon balances got me excited, and 1.9 was going to be the most awesome thing...but even the blueberries are better than I am?
I can't take it anymore. This is the last game with a functional medic system and even my group of proto sentinels and logis can be bested by one lone caldari scout and a CR, melting the heavies like they had 300 hp
My scrambler is the only weapon I have now that feels like I have power, and I still can't hit people with it like they can me with their combat rifles and ARs from 100 meters away...I thought these were short range weapons are they not?
I feel pathetic, useless. Like now I'm that blueberry on the team who can't even get 500 wp. Am I missing something? Did I miss an update where everything got screwed up or am I just the odd case where everything get better for everyone except me? i agree on the logi part, our ehp sucks soo hard..
[[LogiBro ADV/PRO]]
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[[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
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Lynn Beck
Delta Vanguard 6
2177
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Posted - 2014.11.03 22:19:00 -
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rule #1: Stop giving a f**k about KD.
rule #2: Stop giving a f**k about ISK(that said, run/buy a Quafe, that is, if you still have faith/fun with the game.)
When I first came back on the 29th(fixed my OS problem, reinstalled blah blah) I ran 33/12 in full prototype, losing well over 1.3 million ISK.
Now I run my Quafe MInja fitted with a Tactical Sniper and an Ion PIstol and I run 25/5 to at worst 10/5.
Most of it is you being used to (better controlling/feeling) games which have proper KB/M or DS3(controller) support. Try making yourself as militia a suit as possible, and get used to the METAs again. Gradually return to using PRO mods/weapons on your MLT/STD stuff, then go make an ADV fit designed to do what your basic can't alone(mine is a M/1 Commando with Wyrrkomi swarms, made to fight the tanks my Quafe's Remotes can't handle alone.)
After that, just start f**king about with making various other fittings designed to do things that may(or may not...) work. My favorite was making a M-1 Logistics with all scanning mods and a rep tool to follow a friend/scan for him.
End result was... i was blind with 120/185. Scanning mods are useless, even on Logistics.
General John Ripper
-BAM! I'm Emeril Lagasse.
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I-Shayz-I
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Posted - 2014.11.03 22:19:00 -
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PO0KY wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:I should buy a respec, get caldari scout 5 and shotgun prof 5 to go be a scrub like everyone else.
Oh, and core locus grenades. Geez If that's what it takes to do "good" then why not?
Because that's boring and not very fun at all. I'd rather rep someone.
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Eruditus 920
Nemo Malus Felix
703
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Posted - 2014.11.03 22:20:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:I have 55 million sp yet feel underpowered.
There's nowhere I can put my sp in order to gain any more advantages. I can use the best gear available and still die faster by a mlt hmg than I can deal damage with a boundless. I try to use a scrambler to take out caldari scouts when a shotgun or even a mass driver works better.
Even as a logi I feel dissatisfied because I can't even be out in the open long enough to rep someone before I'm killed without any time to react.
What happened to this game? I thought it got better, all the weapon balances got me excited, and 1.9 was going to be the most awesome thing...but even the blueberries are better than I am?
I can't take it anymore. This is the last game with a functional medic system and even my group of proto sentinels and logis can be bested by one lone caldari scout and a CR, melting the heavies like they had 300 hp
My scrambler is the only weapon I have now that feels like I have power, and I still can't hit people with it like they can me with their combat rifles and ARs from 100 meters away...I thought these were short range weapons are they not?
I feel pathetic, useless. Like now I'm that blueberry on the team who can't even get 500 wp. Am I missing something? Did I miss an update where everything got screwed up or am I just the odd case where everything get better for everyone except me?
Shayz, I didn't know you were given to hyperbole.
Or trolling? 7.5?
"Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
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STYLIE77
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
242
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Posted - 2014.11.03 22:27:00 -
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You got stuck in a rut.
Change the way you approach maps, definitely flank more.
I hear you on the Caldari Scout, the only thing that kills them is assault rifles IMO. Speed tanking with that much shield makes your damage output a joke. I have seen them walk right through HMG fire in CQC areas and kill two heavies that were shooting directly at them.
Anyone else gets ripped to shreds including Gal scouts.
We shall see if this frame rate improvement that they say is coming in 1.9 = more dead Cal Scouts because right now I see very few adv/proto cal scouts that are not beasting and feasting on the other classes in this game.
Course if you asked me, I would remove scout and cloak from this game entirely and watch the playerbase grow.
In the mean time, I suggest backing out of any game that you feel is flooded with OP suits. Better choice than biomassing.
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Eruditus 920
Nemo Malus Felix
703
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Posted - 2014.11.03 22:27:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:I have 50 million sp yet feel underpowered.
There's nowhere I can put my sp in order to gain any more advantages. I can use the best gear available and still die faster by a mlt hmg than I can deal damage with a boundless. I try to use a scrambler to take out caldari scouts when a shotgun or even a mass driver works better.
Even as a logi I feel dissatisfied because I can't even be out in the open long enough to rep someone before I'm killed without any time to react.
What happened to this game? I thought it got better, all the weapon balances got me excited, and 1.9 was going to be the most awesome thing...but even the blueberries are better than I am?
I can't take it anymore. This is the last game with a functional medic system and even my group of proto sentinels and logis can be bested by one lone caldari scout and a CR, melting the heavies like they had 300 hp
My scrambler is the only weapon I have now that feels like I have power, and I still can't hit people with it like they can me with their combat rifles and ARs from 100 meters away...I thought these were short range weapons are they not?
I feel pathetic, useless. Like now I'm that blueberry on the team who can't even get 500 wp. Am I missing something? Did I miss an update where everything got screwed up or am I just the odd case where everything get better for everyone except me? 40 mil SP here, everything's feelin' just fine for me. Laser rifles meltin' faces. Going 1.5k to 2k+ war points in an ambush with my Gal logi. Runin' a muck with my Ganja and his ACR. Gal assault's fantastic. (Except it needs to be set apart further from the other suits with more native reps/sec) Melting faces and tac, tac, tacin away with my LR and BrAR on my Gal commando. Don't play my heavy much, so... Hum, everything seems fine to me.
Oh, and I had to take exception to this.
No one fears the Laser Rifle. Kill stealin'? Maybe. Assist milking? Yep. But no melted faces.
"Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
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STYLIE77
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
242
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Posted - 2014.11.03 22:28:00 -
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Eruditus 920 wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:I have 55 million sp yet feel underpowered.
There's nowhere I can put my sp in order to gain any more advantages. I can use the best gear available and still die faster by a mlt hmg than I can deal damage with a boundless. I try to use a scrambler to take out caldari scouts when a shotgun or even a mass driver works better.
Even as a logi I feel dissatisfied because I can't even be out in the open long enough to rep someone before I'm killed without any time to react.
What happened to this game? I thought it got better, all the weapon balances got me excited, and 1.9 was going to be the most awesome thing...but even the blueberries are better than I am?
I can't take it anymore. This is the last game with a functional medic system and even my group of proto sentinels and logis can be bested by one lone caldari scout and a CR, melting the heavies like they had 300 hp
My scrambler is the only weapon I have now that feels like I have power, and I still can't hit people with it like they can me with their combat rifles and ARs from 100 meters away...I thought these were short range weapons are they not?
I feel pathetic, useless. Like now I'm that blueberry on the team who can't even get 500 wp. Am I missing something? Did I miss an update where everything got screwed up or am I just the odd case where everything get better for everyone except me? Shayz, I didn't know you were given to hyperbole. Or trolling? 7.5?
Hush you...
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Lloyd Orfay
SHAKING BABIES FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE
157
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Posted - 2014.11.03 22:42:00 -
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There's nowhere I can put my sp in order to gain any more advantages. I can use the best gear available and still die faster by a mlt hmg than I can deal damage with a boundless. I try to use a scrambler to take out caldari scouts when a shotgun or even a mass driver works better.
Nope it was getting worse. Hotfix charlie made scout vs non scout gameplay quite impossible, as two precision scouts and two dampening scouts screws everyone and even some scouts theirselves. It was best when only caldari had precision and only gallente could ampen from caldari, because then there were more people speccing into caldari to eliminate people abusing the scoutsuits and same for snipers. Now that is ****** up. It also made using caldari less viable, as the popular used hybrid weapons make shield tanking worthless and a lot of other things still destroy shields too easily. A lot of the suits also have really bad shield regeneration/recharge delay/depleted recharge times.
Hotfix Delta made nearly all sidearms overpowered, so now only some people are able to exploit certain one's strength, further disbalancing gameplay. A lot of suits including the scouts still need a proper role that makes the suit user be forced to rely on other players. Guns still need to be tweaked to have no totalitarian effectiveness over ranges they do not specialise in + recoil + no more dicking around with aim assist. We need a better idea for uplink spam and nanite abuse. Either use a sentinel with resistence to certain damage profiles, or become a scout yourself to play as infantry.
Or do what I'm doing, speccing into vehicles and researching vehicles so that the day I get ADS or gunnlogis or madrugars I will make ++berfits and act as total support, having my vehicles give birth to my team in any location I want them to go in, while obliterating everyone.
I am going to do such a wrathful action because I've no choice. I want to shoot myself because of changes that really ruined my gameplay(calscout change + delta sidearms) but I wanted my death to be fitting to the dust fictional environment and I wanted to use a bolt pistol for that.
On small vacation surfing on Caldari Tanks.
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P14GU3
Savage Bullet
900
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Posted - 2014.11.03 22:42:00 -
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Ive been feeling it since the cloak came out. One mod has completely ruined this game for me. Im excited to come back and play after 1.9, but I just feel like it will be the same **** still. The logi game is all but dead shayz. If you are not trying to be a super ninja slayer, there isnt much point to play. I play a few matches earlier to warm up for tomorrow and I was doing alright (top 5) after a few games bit I rarely broke 1k WP. Before fanfest my average was 2-3k WP per game.
The scrambler isnt dead, but it is seriously lackluster to what it used to be. The range on the CR makes a ScR almost pointless to use. Ive been using the TAR as a replacement for it, but for the most part, armor damaging guns reign right now.
I guess ill just have to adapt to CloakNDagger514 or leave again...
I only play dust514ums now. It was always more fun than the actual game anyways.
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Lloyd Orfay
SHAKING BABIES FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE
157
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Posted - 2014.11.03 22:43:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:I should buy a respec, get caldari scout 5 and shotgun prof 5 to go be a scrub like everyone else.
Oh, and core locus grenades. Geez
Nonononoo Not a calscout, get gal or amarr.
On small vacation surfing on Caldari Tanks.
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
5782
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Posted - 2014.11.03 22:56:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:I have 55 million sp yet feel underpowered.
There's nowhere I can put my sp in order to gain any more advantages. I can use the best gear available and still die faster by a mlt hmg than I can deal damage with a boundless. I try to use a scrambler to take out caldari scouts when a shotgun or even a mass driver works better.
Even as a logi I feel dissatisfied because I can't even be out in the open long enough to rep someone before I'm killed without any time to react.
What happened to this game? I thought it got better, all the weapon balances got me excited, and 1.9 was going to be the most awesome thing...but even the blueberries are better than I am?
I can't take it anymore. This is the last game with a functional medic system and even my group of proto sentinels and logis can be bested by one lone caldari scout and a CR, melting the heavies like they had 300 hp
My scrambler is the only weapon I have now that feels like I have power, and I still can't hit people with it like they can me with their combat rifles and ARs from 100 meters away...I thought these were short range weapons are they not?
I feel pathetic, useless. Like now I'm that blueberry on the team who can't even get 500 wp. Am I missing something? Did I miss an update where everything got screwed up or am I just the odd case where everything get better for everyone except me?
The game feels balanced at last. I dont need to run full proto to kill other full proto enemies. I like this.
The best Damage mod is a HEADSHOT....
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
2197
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Posted - 2014.11.03 23:00:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:PO0KY wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:I should buy a respec, get caldari scout 5 and shotgun prof 5 to go be a scrub like everyone else.
Oh, and core locus grenades. Geez If that's what it takes to do "good" then why not? Because that's boring and not very fun at all. I'd rather rep someone. Beyond that, if we're all going to be running the same fits just so we can be "good" what is the point of the flexibility of the fitting system?
I mean, is that really the answer? Find the most OP cheapest fit you can and then spam it until greatness is achieved?
Where is the fun in that? What is the point in devoting Dev time to the assortment of mods, suits and weapons we have? Why not just have CCP delete everything except the FoTM and then we can just determined who is the best with the most ridiculous fits.
Thinking like this is what makes me question my faith in humanity.
Gò¡Gê¬Gò«(Gùú_Gùó)Gò¡Gê¬Gò«
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
1509
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Posted - 2014.11.03 23:03:00 -
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Scouts happened. And they will unhappen... eventually. Ewar needs a drastic redesign. Game needs a bit more purpose to it than glorified death matches, with expanded gameplay comes better defined roles.
Scouts should be niche and they're not which is a problem.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Eruditus 920
Nemo Malus Felix
704
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Posted - 2014.11.03 23:09:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Scouts happened. And they will unhappen... eventually. Ewar needs a drastic redesign. Game needs a bit more purpose to it than glorified death matches, with expanded gameplay comes better defined roles.
Scouts should be niche and they're not which is a problem.
Really now?
Are Sentinel's a niche? Should they be?
Are assault's a niche...?
Logi a niche?
Are Commando suits a niche? Should they be?
This post may be the dumbest post I have ever read on the forum in 9 months.
"Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
1510
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Posted - 2014.11.03 23:16:00 -
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The answer to all of those is. Yes.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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I-Shayz-I
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Posted - 2014.11.03 23:17:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Scouts happened. And they will unhappen... eventually. Ewar needs a drastic redesign. Game needs a bit more purpose to it than glorified death matches, with expanded gameplay comes better defined roles.
Scouts should be niche and they're not which is a problem.
Scouts should at least be worthwhile, but not the most competitive way to play. Should be the counter to sentinels and logistics, but be super weak to assaults and commandos. However they're just too good at killing everything.
The only direct counter to a scout being other scouts? Kinda silly.
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
1511
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Posted - 2014.11.03 23:34:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:Scouts happened. And they will unhappen... eventually. Ewar needs a drastic redesign. Game needs a bit more purpose to it than glorified death matches, with expanded gameplay comes better defined roles.
Scouts should be niche and they're not which is a problem. Scouts should at least be worthwhile, but not the most competitive way to play. Should be the counter to sentinels and logistics, but be super weak to assaults and commandos. However they're just too good at killing everything. The only direct counter to a scout being other scouts? Kinda silly.
Not saying that I don't want them to have a role in the game. Saying that I wish the game currently supported and rewarded less slayey roles.
A scout sniper should be a thing. A scout that flips *everything* at a place that isn't being carefully watched is a thing. A scout that does recon work to find enemy vehicles should be a thing.
All of the game modes currently are more about 'which team can kill people the best'. I'd like to see a mode that does something along the lines of 'which team is the best at breaking into a fortified position' where the teams have to control a 'workshop' for a duration in order to produce a 'supertank' that then attempts to go wreck a ground based MCC in a fortified position.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Hakyou Brutor
Capital Acquisitions LLC
1490
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Posted - 2014.11.03 23:46:00 -
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No, you're just so burnt out on DUST that you mess around without even realizing it, I do it all the time.
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Eruditus 920
Nemo Malus Felix
704
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Posted - 2014.11.03 23:47:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:Scouts happened. And they will unhappen... eventually. Ewar needs a drastic redesign. Game needs a bit more purpose to it than glorified death matches, with expanded gameplay comes better defined roles.
Scouts should be niche and they're not which is a problem. Scouts should at least be worthwhile, but not the most competitive way to play. Should be the counter to sentinels and logistics, but be super weak to assaults and commandos. However they're just too good at killing everything. The only direct counter to a scout being other scouts? Kinda silly. Not saying that I don't want them to have a role in the game. Saying that I wish the game currently supported and rewarded less slayey roles. A scout sniper should be a thing. A scout that flips *everything* at a place that isn't being carefully watched is a thing. A scout that does recon work to find enemy vehicles should be a thing. All of the game modes currently are more about 'which team can kill people the best'. I'd like to see a mode that does something along the lines of 'which team is the best at breaking into a fortified position' where the teams have to control a 'workshop' for a duration in order to produce a 'supertank' that then attempts to go wreck a ground based MCC in a fortified position.
I don't know where to start with you.
DUST is a first person shooter where the end game is to kill the other guy. I don't know how "less slayey" fits here.
The game mode you are suggesting would be another game with different goals entirely.
My head hurts.
"Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
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Henrietta Unknown
Nox Lupos
445
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Posted - 2014.11.03 23:51:00 -
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One thing that immediately puts me off from playing - the Gal Research Lab. In fact, it's the worst map for Domination.
Scouts and logis spam nearly unlimited equipment, blotting out tacnet and reducing perfectly normal framerates to laggy ones, hurting only the offensive trying to breach.
Then Shotgun Scouts and Sentinels handle the rest. Not even an ADS can do much to stop this, nor a scout with MD and fluxes, nor a whole offensive. Don't tell me there's anything one can do.
Never before had I felt so ready to quit. Game-breaking mechanics are the bane of those seeking enjoyable matches.
Give the Magsex some love.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
5781
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Posted - 2014.11.03 23:52:00 -
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Son. You need to learn the definition of flank. Then learn how to do it.
Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side.
Show the world where you're from.
Show the world we are one.
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Son-Of A-Gun
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
1419
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Posted - 2014.11.03 23:54:00 -
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Eruditus 920 wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:I have 50 million sp yet feel underpowered.
There's nowhere I can put my sp in order to gain any more advantages. I can use the best gear available and still die faster by a mlt hmg than I can deal damage with a boundless. I try to use a scrambler to take out caldari scouts when a shotgun or even a mass driver works better.
Even as a logi I feel dissatisfied because I can't even be out in the open long enough to rep someone before I'm killed without any time to react.
What happened to this game? I thought it got better, all the weapon balances got me excited, and 1.9 was going to be the most awesome thing...but even the blueberries are better than I am?
I can't take it anymore. This is the last game with a functional medic system and even my group of proto sentinels and logis can be bested by one lone caldari scout and a CR, melting the heavies like they had 300 hp
My scrambler is the only weapon I have now that feels like I have power, and I still can't hit people with it like they can me with their combat rifles and ARs from 100 meters away...I thought these were short range weapons are they not?
I feel pathetic, useless. Like now I'm that blueberry on the team who can't even get 500 wp. Am I missing something? Did I miss an update where everything got screwed up or am I just the odd case where everything get better for everyone except me? 40 mil SP here, everything's feelin' just fine for me. Laser rifles meltin' faces. Going 1.5k to 2k+ war points in an ambush with my Gal logi. Runin' a muck with my Ganja and his ACR. Gal assault's fantastic. (Except it needs to be set apart further from the other suits with more native reps/sec) Melting faces and tac, tac, tacin away with my LR and BrAR on my Gal commando. Don't play my heavy much, so... Hum, everything seems fine to me. Oh, and I had to take exception to this. No one fears the Laser Rifle. Kill stealin'? Maybe. Assist milking? Yep. But no melted faces.
That dog hunts for me.
{:)}{3GÇó>
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
1513
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Posted - 2014.11.04 00:02:00 -
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Eruditus 920 wrote:I don't know where to start with you.
DUST is a first person shooter where the end game is to kill the other guy. I don't know how "less slayey" fits here.
The game mode you are suggesting would be another game with different goals entirely.
My head hurts.
It's almost like we're using the same IP as another game and there is so much more that dust could be rather than just a simple lobby shooter.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Eruditus 920
Nemo Malus Felix
705
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Posted - 2014.11.04 00:06:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Eruditus 920 wrote:I don't know where to start with you.
DUST is a first person shooter where the end game is to kill the other guy. I don't know how "less slayey" fits here.
The game mode you are suggesting would be another game with different goals entirely.
My head hurts.
It's almost like we're using the same IP as another game and there is so much more that dust could be rather than just a simple lobby shooter.
Well you have finally typed a thought I agree with.
But DUST is pretty much all grown up. It is what it is.
"Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
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Kuruld Sengar
Balac's Disciples
20
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Posted - 2014.11.04 00:10:00 -
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As a logi primarily I don't see what's wrong with .5. Statistically there have to be at least as many people under 1.0 as over it. Based on the leaderboards it seems there are alot more under 1.0. Just run whatever will keep you sane is my best advice :/ (Running vehicles can bring back the lols)
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
5783
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Posted - 2014.11.04 00:12:00 -
[39] - Quote
I-Shayz-I wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:Scouts happened. And they will unhappen... eventually. Ewar needs a drastic redesign. Game needs a bit more purpose to it than glorified death matches, with expanded gameplay comes better defined roles.
Scouts should be niche and they're not which is a problem. Scouts should at least be worthwhile, but not the most competitive way to play. Should be the counter to sentinels and logistics, but be super weak to assaults and commandos. However they're just too good at killing everything. The only direct counter to a scout being other scouts? Kinda silly.
Im an average player and i KNOW this is pure biased BS. With all the respect someone like you deserves Shays.
I can use my Amarr Assault BPO (with 800HP) and go to town and get 5+ KD ratio in any random game.
The thing is, people forget about the skill gap, that is the true enemy here.
a 2 mill scout is not the same as a 40mill one.
And so you know. The direct counter to a scout are Sentinels. But sadly most sentinels out there lack skill and play as one just to spray and pray with HMG's, but the few that are good have no problems whatsoever dealing with scouts....or anything in the battlefield for that matters...AND MUCH less if they run in a squad...
The best Damage mod is a HEADSHOT....
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
2194
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Posted - 2014.11.04 00:23:00 -
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Quasar Storm wrote:Bah humbug!
Your raps dont unnerve me, there atrocious What frightens me the most is your gross ghost proboscis Business and success thats the life ive selected So enough with your pictures of the past I'm not affected
PSN Sil4ntChaozz
Define Min Scout-Ninja/Define Gal Scout-Predator
Scout Devotee Mk.0/Gk.0
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
4248
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Posted - 2014.11.04 00:26:00 -
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I saw you in the beginning of a match today, but you didn't appear in the leaderboard with the enemy team only having 15 players. Needless to say, I was disappointed.
Not having an advantage probably means we're closer to balance now than ever. Just saying. That's what it sounds like to me, anyways. |
howard sanchez
994
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Posted - 2014.11.04 00:46:00 -
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Shayz,
You just got a dose of the 'sauce', is all. It's the secret sauce that makes DUST 514 (arguably at times a less than AAA FPS) so very addicting. It's what keeps vets bitter and playing.
In a word it is: LOSS
You experience it every time you watch or are involved in any competition. We (Internet gaming diaspora) most often feel it through video games.
But DUST delivers loss in a way that has a greater visceral impact than most online games. And you also feel GAIN. That victorious adrenal rush as the final round pierces it mark, the controller jerks and +50 rises before your eyes.
And it's that delta - the amplitude of difference between gain and loss...that provides the roller coaster ups and downs we all endure.
Maybe your ISP is throttling your flow, bad end of latency and all that. I have DUST days like this - can't do a damn thing with the business end of a weapon. I have poker runs like this too. Variance with a statistically acceptable distribution over the set can be a sign of a healthy system.
Show off your Quafe
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hold that
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
339
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Posted - 2014.11.04 00:51:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:I should buy a respec, get caldari scout 5 and shotgun prof 5 to go be a scrub like everyone else.
Oh, and core locus grenades. Geez
Put lv 5 damp on you amarr logi and do the same thing
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Flix Keptick
Red Star. EoN.
4305
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Posted - 2014.11.04 01:08:00 -
[44] - Quote
This is the beauty (and malice) of a grind. During the entire grind all you can think of is the endgame and how awesome it's going to be. When you finally get there, you realize that the advantages you gained don't matter because everything else also increased in difficulty and level. You also realize that there's nothing else to look forward to, having no objective quickly drives motivation and fun away.
Morale of the story? Avoid grind games like pest and play for fun, not to level up. Not having fun? Play something else.
Vehicle addict // caldari scout
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PLAYSTTION
GamersForChrist
255
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Posted - 2014.11.04 02:19:00 -
[45] - Quote
I usually go through phases of noob and stomper all the time. They can be one day or months. your probably just on the down side riht now. Take a brake or try a bpo fit and make some isk. It'll pass over.
44/4 in a BPO Scout (1.8) 40/5 in a Proto Assault (1.7)
- Open Beta Vet - 31mil sp -
R.I.P Dust 514
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
2290
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Posted - 2014.11.04 04:16:00 -
[46] - Quote
The thing i love most about DUST is how it will kick the ever-loving kittenshit right out of a merc and then ask him if he wants to go another round while he lies there, twitchin' and bleedin'.
Now that's entertainment!
For the deranged, at any rate.
PSN: RationalSpark
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Get Gud
WarRavens Auxiliaries Capital Punishment.
1
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Posted - 2014.11.04 05:00:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:I should buy a respec, get caldari scout 5 and shotgun prof 5 to go be a scrub like everyone else.
Oh, and core locus grenades. Geez
Yup... My opinion, don't be part of the solution, grab that scout an be part of the problem.. |
Slave of MORTE
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
24
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Posted - 2014.11.04 05:06:00 -
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Going all amar is swell I can vouch ..amar logi cheap suit spam uplinks ..Nanos at supply depots when called for ..o run amar and min sentinel in cqc LR assault for long range Forge for heavy av Amar scout swarms for light av There is never a match where I cam do something
Shayz go lr amar assault ..it's so bad ass and ascr is buffed to awesomeness
Yet another slave of Mortedeamor
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KalOfTheRathi
Nec Tributis
1403
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Posted - 2014.11.04 07:12:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote: -cut- I can't take it anymore. This is the last game with a functional medic system -cut- Could you please expand on this?
Cause I play a few other games and one in particular has a decent medic system. The engineer is fun as well. And let me tell ya, their concept of a heavy is fantastic. Note that I don't play that many FPS games online so my suggestion list is quite short compared to many.
Of course, nothing compares with how Dust514 used to be. Mix and match equipment, suits, play styles and have a good time with your squad mates. Sadly, even Dust514 isn't like that anymore.
My favorite tank is a Lightning. Just sayin.
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
1259
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Posted - 2014.11.04 10:08:00 -
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I like where the game is right now overall. I wish they had never introduced the cloak. It is just too great an advantage to have and they are not introducing enough penalties to run it. I am afraid the genie is out of the bottle now and I don't know if they can fix it without driving away all those who depend on it. Shayz, you've been on the kicking side of many a stomp, karma is just catching up to you, it will swing back around. Some days I think I finally arrived at being a pretty good player then I'll have a night where every game is just spawn and die without being able to do anything. You're a better player than I am so it can't be any worse for you, it is just the ego takes time to get calloused.
Because, that's why.
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