DUST Search - I'm not "good enough" to have fun in Dust anymore.

Eruditus 920 wrote:

Son-Of A-Gun wrote:

I-Shayz-I wrote:

I have 50 million sp yet feel underpowered.

There's nowhere I can put my sp in order to gain any more advantages. I can use the best gear available and still die faster by a mlt hmg than I can deal damage with a boundless. I try to use a scrambler to take out caldari scouts when a shotgun or even a mass driver works better.

Even as a logi I feel dissatisfied because I can't even be out in the open long enough to rep someone before I'm killed without any time to react.

What happened to this game? I thought it got better, all the weapon balances got me excited, and 1.9 was going to be the most awesome thing...but even the blueberries are better than I am?

I can't take it anymore. This is the last game with a functional medic system and even my group of proto sentinels and logis can be bested by one lone caldari scout and a CR, melting the heavies like they had 300 hp

My scrambler is the only weapon I have now that feels like I have power, and I still can't hit people with it like they can me with their combat rifles and ARs from 100 meters away...I thought these were short range weapons are they not?

I feel pathetic, useless. Like now I'm that blueberry on the team who can't even get 500 wp.
Am I missing something? Did I miss an update where everything got screwed up or am I just the odd case where everything get better for everyone except me?

40 mil SP here, everything's feelin' just fine for me.

Laser rifles meltin' faces.

Going 1.5k to 2k+ war points in an ambush with my Gal logi.

Runin' a muck with my Ganja and his ACR.

Gal assault's fantastic. (Except it needs to be set apart further from the other suits with more native reps/sec)

Melting faces and tac, tac, tacin away with my LR and BrAR on my Gal commando.

Don't play my heavy much, so...

Hum, everything seems fine to me.

Oh, and I had to take exception to this.

No one fears the Laser Rifle. Kill stealin'? Maybe. Assist milking? Yep. But no melted faces.

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Hakyou Brutor Capital Acquisitions LLC 1490	Posted - 2014.11.03 23:46:00 - [31] - Quote No, you're just so burnt out on DUST that you mess around without even realizing it, I do it all the time. Oddly enough, when I zone out and listen to music I do my best.
Eruditus 920 Nemo Malus Felix 704	Posted - 2014.11.03 23:47:00 - [32] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: I-Shayz-I wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: Scouts happened. And they will unhappen... eventually. Ewar needs a drastic redesign. Game needs a bit more purpose to it than glorified death matches, with expanded gameplay comes better defined roles. Scouts should be niche and they're not which is a problem. Scouts should at least be worthwhile, but not the most competitive way to play. Should be the counter to sentinels and logistics, but be super weak to assaults and commandos. However they're just too good at killing everything. The only direct counter to a scout being other scouts? Kinda silly. Not saying that I don't want them to have a role in the game. Saying that I wish the game currently supported and rewarded less slayey roles. A scout sniper should be a thing. A scout that flips everything at a place that isn't being carefully watched is a thing. A scout that does recon work to find enemy vehicles should be a thing. All of the game modes currently are more about 'which team can kill people the best'. I'd like to see a mode that does something along the lines of 'which team is the best at breaking into a fortified position' where the teams have to control a 'workshop' for a duration in order to produce a 'supertank' that then attempts to go wreck a ground based MCC in a fortified position. I don't know where to start with you. DUST is a first person shooter where the end game is to kill the other guy. I don't know how "less slayey" fits here. The game mode you are suggesting would be another game with different goals entirely. My head hurts. "Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
Henrietta Unknown Nox Lupos 445	Posted - 2014.11.03 23:51:00 - [33] - Quote One thing that immediately puts me off from playing - the Gal Research Lab. In fact, it's the worst map for Domination. Scouts and logis spam nearly unlimited equipment, blotting out tacnet and reducing perfectly normal framerates to laggy ones, hurting only the offensive trying to breach. Then Shotgun Scouts and Sentinels handle the rest. Not even an ADS can do much to stop this, nor a scout with MD and fluxes, nor a whole offensive. Don't tell me there's anything one can do. Never before had I felt so ready to quit. Game-breaking mechanics are the bane of those seeking enjoyable matches. Give the Magsex some love.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 5781	Posted - 2014.11.03 23:52:00 - [34] - Quote Son. You need to learn the definition of flank. Then learn how to do it. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Son-Of A-Gun Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1419	Posted - 2014.11.03 23:54:00 - [35] - Quote Eruditus 920 wrote: Son-Of A-Gun wrote: I-Shayz-I wrote: I have 50 million sp yet feel underpowered. There's nowhere I can put my sp in order to gain any more advantages. I can use the best gear available and still die faster by a mlt hmg than I can deal damage with a boundless. I try to use a scrambler to take out caldari scouts when a shotgun or even a mass driver works better. Even as a logi I feel dissatisfied because I can't even be out in the open long enough to rep someone before I'm killed without any time to react. What happened to this game? I thought it got better, all the weapon balances got me excited, and 1.9 was going to be the most awesome thing...but even the blueberries are better than I am? I can't take it anymore. This is the last game with a functional medic system and even my group of proto sentinels and logis can be bested by one lone caldari scout and a CR, melting the heavies like they had 300 hp My scrambler is the only weapon I have now that feels like I have power, and I still can't hit people with it like they can me with their combat rifles and ARs from 100 meters away...I thought these were short range weapons are they not? I feel pathetic, useless. Like now I'm that blueberry on the team who can't even get 500 wp. Am I missing something? Did I miss an update where everything got screwed up or am I just the odd case where everything get better for everyone except me? 40 mil SP here, everything's feelin' just fine for me. Laser rifles meltin' faces. Going 1.5k to 2k+ war points in an ambush with my Gal logi. Runin' a muck with my Ganja and his ACR. Gal assault's fantastic. (Except it needs to be set apart further from the other suits with more native reps/sec) Melting faces and tac, tac, tacin away with my LR and BrAR on my Gal commando. Don't play my heavy much, so... Hum, everything seems fine to me. Oh, and I had to take exception to this. No one fears the Laser Rifle. Kill stealin'? Maybe. Assist milking? Yep. But no melted faces. That dog hunts for me. {:)}{3GÇó>
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1513	Posted - 2014.11.04 00:02:00 - [36] - Quote Eruditus 920 wrote: I don't know where to start with you. DUST is a first person shooter where the end game is to kill the other guy. I don't know how "less slayey" fits here. The game mode you are suggesting would be another game with different goals entirely. My head hurts. It's almost like we're using the same IP as another game and there is so much more that dust could be rather than just a simple lobby shooter. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Eruditus 920 Nemo Malus Felix 705	Posted - 2014.11.04 00:06:00 - [37] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Eruditus 920 wrote: I don't know where to start with you. DUST is a first person shooter where the end game is to kill the other guy. I don't know how "less slayey" fits here. The game mode you are suggesting would be another game with different goals entirely. My head hurts. It's almost like we're using the same IP as another game and there is so much more that dust could be rather than just a simple lobby shooter. Well you have finally typed a thought I agree with. But DUST is pretty much all grown up. It is what it is. "Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
Kuruld Sengar Balac's Disciples 20	Posted - 2014.11.04 00:10:00 - [38] - Quote As a logi primarily I don't see what's wrong with .5. Statistically there have to be at least as many people under 1.0 as over it. Based on the leaderboards it seems there are alot more under 1.0. Just run whatever will keep you sane is my best advice :/ (Running vehicles can bring back the lols) Edit: My first sentence is referring to shayz, not saying I am the logi.
KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 5783	Posted - 2014.11.04 00:12:00 - [39] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: Scouts happened. And they will unhappen... eventually. Ewar needs a drastic redesign. Game needs a bit more purpose to it than glorified death matches, with expanded gameplay comes better defined roles. Scouts should be niche and they're not which is a problem. Scouts should at least be worthwhile, but not the most competitive way to play. Should be the counter to sentinels and logistics, but be super weak to assaults and commandos. However they're just too good at killing everything. The only direct counter to a scout being other scouts? Kinda silly. Im an average player and i KNOW this is pure biased BS. With all the respect someone like you deserves Shays. I can use my Amarr Assault BPO (with 800HP) and go to town and get 5+ KD ratio in any random game. The thing is, people forget about the skill gap, that is the true enemy here. a 2 mill scout is not the same as a 40mill one. And so you know. The direct counter to a scout are Sentinels. But sadly most sentinels out there lack skill and play as one just to spray and pray with HMG's, but the few that are good have no problems whatsoever dealing with scouts....or anything in the battlefield for that matters...AND MUCH less if they run in a squad... The best Damage mod is a HEADSHOT....
PARKOUR PRACTIONER G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 2194	Posted - 2014.11.04 00:23:00 - [40] - Quote Quasar Storm wrote: Bah humbug! Your raps dont unnerve me, there atrocious What frightens me the most is your gross ghost proboscis Business and success thats the life ive selected So enough with your pictures of the past I'm not affected PSN Sil4ntChaozz *Define Min Scout-Ninja/Define Gal Scout-Predator* Scout Devotee Mk.0/Gk.0

Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 4248	Posted - 2014.11.04 00:26:00 - [41] - Quote I saw you in the beginning of a match today, but you didn't appear in the leaderboard with the enemy team only having 15 players. Needless to say, I was disappointed. Not having an advantage probably means we're closer to balance now than ever. Just saying. That's what it sounds like to me, anyways.
howard sanchez 994	Posted - 2014.11.04 00:46:00 - [42] - Quote Shayz, You just got a dose of the 'sauce', is all. It's the secret sauce that makes DUST 514 (arguably at times a less than AAA FPS) so very addicting. It's what keeps vets bitter and playing. In a word it is: LOSS You experience it every time you watch or are involved in any competition. We (Internet gaming diaspora) most often feel it through video games. But DUST delivers loss in a way that has a greater visceral impact than most online games. And you also feel GAIN. That victorious adrenal rush as the final round pierces it mark, the controller jerks and +50 rises before your eyes. And it's that delta - the amplitude of difference between gain and loss...that provides the roller coaster ups and downs we all endure. Maybe your ISP is throttling your flow, bad end of latency and all that. I have DUST days like this - can't do a damn thing with the business end of a weapon. I have poker runs like this too. Variance with a statistically acceptable distribution over the set can be a sign of a healthy system. Show off your Quafe
hold that Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 339	Posted - 2014.11.04 00:51:00 - [43] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: I should buy a respec, get caldari scout 5 and shotgun prof 5 to go be a scrub like everyone else. Oh, and core locus grenades. Geez Put lv 5 damp on you amarr logi and do the same thing
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 4305	Posted - 2014.11.04 01:08:00 - [44] - Quote This is the beauty (and malice) of a grind. During the entire grind all you can think of is the endgame and how awesome it's going to be. When you finally get there, you realize that the advantages you gained don't matter because everything else also increased in difficulty and level. You also realize that there's nothing else to look forward to, having no objective quickly drives motivation and fun away. Morale of the story? Avoid grind games like pest and play for fun, not to level up. Not having fun? Play something else. Vehicle addict // caldari scout
PLAYSTTION GamersForChrist 255	Posted - 2014.11.04 02:19:00 - [45] - Quote I usually go through phases of noob and stomper all the time. They can be one day or months. your probably just on the down side riht now. Take a brake or try a bpo fit and make some isk. It'll pass over. 44/4 in a BPO Scout (1.8) 40/5 in a Proto Assault (1.7) `- Open Beta Vet - 31mil sp -` R.I.P Dust 514
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2290	Posted - 2014.11.04 04:16:00 - [46] - Quote The thing i love most about DUST is how it will kick the ever-loving kittenshit right out of a merc and then ask him if he wants to go another round while he lies there, twitchin' and bleedin'. Now that's entertainment! For the deranged, at any rate. PSN: RationalSpark
Get Gud WarRavens Auxiliaries Capital Punishment. 1	Posted - 2014.11.04 05:00:00 - [47] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: I should buy a respec, get caldari scout 5 and shotgun prof 5 to go be a scrub like everyone else. Oh, and core locus grenades. Geez Yup... My opinion, don't be part of the solution, grab that scout an be part of the problem..
Slave of MORTE Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 24	Posted - 2014.11.04 05:06:00 - [48] - Quote Going all amar is swell I can vouch ..amar logi cheap suit spam uplinks ..Nanos at supply depots when called for ..o run amar and min sentinel in cqc LR assault for long range Forge for heavy av Amar scout swarms for light av There is never a match where I cam do something Shayz go lr amar assault ..it's so bad ass and ascr is buffed to awesomeness Yet another slave of Mortedeamor
KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 1403	Posted - 2014.11.04 07:12:00 - [49] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: -cut- I can't take it anymore. This is the last game with a functional medic system -cut- Could you please expand on this? Cause I play a few other games and one in particular has a decent medic system. The engineer is fun as well. And let me tell ya, their concept of a heavy is fantastic. Note that I don't play that many FPS games online so my suggestion list is quite short compared to many. Of course, nothing compares with how Dust514 used to be. Mix and match equipment, suits, play styles and have a good time with your squad mates. Sadly, even Dust514 isn't like that anymore. My favorite tank is a Lightning. Just sayin.
Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 1259	Posted - 2014.11.04 10:08:00 - [50] - Quote I like where the game is right now overall. I wish they had never introduced the cloak. It is just too great an advantage to have and they are not introducing enough penalties to run it. I am afraid the genie is out of the bottle now and I don't know if they can fix it without driving away all those who depend on it. Shayz, you've been on the kicking side of many a stomp, karma is just catching up to you, it will swing back around. Some days I think I finally arrived at being a pretty good player then I'll have a night where every game is just spawn and die without being able to do anything. You're a better player than I am so it can't be any worse for you, it is just the ego takes time to get calloused. Because, that's why.



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