DUST Search - Need help with Caladri

Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:

Breakin Stuff wrote:

Drop an extender for a recharger or energizer, keep the reg and use a ferroscale or reactive.

Yes , yes , yes , I play Caldari at times and those three shield extenders with that delay is part of what's killing him in that delay penalty and I can't stress how important reactive plates are with the built in armor reps and a little cushion can be the difference between life to flee and fully rep and instant death .

I use scales as well for some extra buffer .

The best thing that you can do OP is figure out what's effective for you and not listen to these people who talk about Caldari's and dual tanking , your need buffer and sometimes that extra weight is what saves you from dying quickly but that penalty from multiple extenders can put you at a disadvantage without a regulator .

I think that they need to add more armor HP's to Caldari's because most of the time we only have one or two low slots and low armor HP's as well and something about that needs to change because their not fast and don't have that great of stamina or stamina regen and you won't get a extra slot in most cases until you reach proto and that could create some problems for those who don't have proto fit's and who are just starting out .

Breakin makes some good points though .

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lmmortal BIoody D3ATH C4RD 2	Posted - 2014.11.03 16:28:00 - [1] - Quote Yes we all know that the Caladri are shield kings but from the last post I put up I took off the armor reps and added the basic armor plates but I this doesn't do the trick. here me out on this every time I get out of a fight trying to recharge my shields right next time I notice there a prototype scout waiting for me to turn around and get one shot. here the new and improve fitting im rolling out now State assault C-I 3 enhanced shields extenders A SB-38 Rail Rifle T-12 Ion Pistol Nanohives Basic shields Regulator Basic armor Plates Flux grenades Please someone tell what i'm doing wrong in this game. My K/D has drop big time from 2.49 to 1.11 (WTF) Power changes everything
Mike Ox Bigger Extremely Wicked 336	Posted - 2014.11.03 16:40:00 - [2] - Quote Get rid of your regulator for the time being. Use the best armor plate you have. I hate saying that but honestly the C-1 doesn't come with a whole lot of health compared to the other suits. I run Assault ck0 and I'll be honest I didn't even fit a regulator on their until a few months ago. It's quite amazing at the complex level but it's hard to use with the suit until you go proto. Basically I run my low slots on my cal fits like this C-1 - Armor Plate C/1 S- Plate and Dampener Ck0 - Plate, Dampener, Regulator
lmmortal BIoody D3ATH C4RD 2	Posted - 2014.11.03 16:44:00 - [3] - Quote Mike Ox Bigger wrote: Get rid of your regulator for the time being. Use the best armor plate you have. I hate saying that but honestly the C-1 doesn't come with a whole lot of health compared to the other suits. I run Assault ck0 and I'll be honest I didn't even fit a regulator on their until a few months ago. It's quite amazing at the complex level but it's hard to use with the suit until you go proto. Basically I run my low slots on my cal fits like this C-1 - Armor Plate C/1 S- Plate and Dampener Ck0 - Plate, Dampener, Regulator Right sound cool but since im right now in college waiting for my class ill do that once I get home and thanks bro Power changes everything
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 4374	Posted - 2014.11.03 16:48:00 - [4] - Quote Drop an extender for a recharger or energizer, keep the reg and use a ferroscale or reactive. Keep your distance as much as possible and exploit cover and fast regeneration. Your rail rifle will allow you to reach out and kill people at range. Swap to an ARR or breach AR for close-in work when needed. Never engage heavies closer than 50m unless you have no choice. EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
Jacques Cayton II Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 997	Posted - 2014.11.03 16:49:00 - [5] - Quote lmmortal BIoody wrote: Yes we all know that the Caladri are shield kings but from the last post I put up I took off the armor reps and added the basic armor plates but I this doesn't do the trick. here me out on this every time I get out of a fight trying to recharge my shields right next time I notice there a prototype scout waiting for me to turn around and get one shot. here the new and improve fitting im rolling out now State assault C-I 3 enhanced shields extenders A SB-38 Rail Rifle T-12 Ion Pistol Nanohives Basic shields Regulator Basic armor Plates Flux grenades Please someone tell what i'm doing wrong in this game. My K/D has drop big time from 2.49 to 1.11 (WTF) 2 shield ext 1 recharger regulator kincat flux compact nano rr and bp We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui VEHICLEBUSTERS Demolitions and Logistics Corp . 1350	Posted - 2014.11.03 17:36:00 - [6] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Drop an extender for a recharger or energizer, keep the reg and use a ferroscale or reactive. Yes , yes , yes , I play Caldari at times and those three shield extenders with that delay is part of what's killing him in that delay penalty and I can't stress how important reactive plates are with the built in armor reps and a little cushion can be the difference between life to flee and fully rep and instant death . I use scales as well for some extra buffer . The best thing that you can do OP is figure out what's effective for you and not listen to these people who talk about Caldari's and dual tanking , your need buffer and sometimes that extra weight is what saves you from dying quickly but that penalty from multiple extenders can put you at a disadvantage without a regulator . I think that they need to add more armor HP's to Caldari's because most of the time we only have one or two low slots and low armor HP's as well and something about that needs to change because their not fast and don't have that great of stamina or stamina regen and you won't get a extra slot in most cases until you reach proto and that could create some problems for those who don't have proto fit's and who are just starting out . Breakin makes some good points though . Thank you Rattati , the DEV crew and the CPM for getting the job of 1.9 done .
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 4386	Posted - 2014.11.03 17:45:00 - [7] - Quote I run caldari dropsuits more often than not. The Sentinel is like an upscaled, slow assault. It is amazing. The assaults thrive on regen and long range. The assault suits stand up very well again even though the EHP meta has a firm hold. But if you play cal, regen/recovery is MUCH more important than raw EHP. EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
Mike Ox Bigger Extremely Wicked 336	Posted - 2014.11.03 17:46:00 - [8] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Drop an extender for a recharger or energizer, keep the reg and use a ferroscale or reactive. Yes , yes , yes , I play Caldari at times and those three shield extenders with that delay is part of what's killing him in that delay penalty and I can't stress how important reactive plates are with the built in armor reps and a little cushion can be the difference between life to flee and fully rep and instant death . I use scales as well for some extra buffer . The best thing that you can do OP is figure out what's effective for you and not listen to these people who talk about Caldari's and dual tanking , your need buffer and sometimes that extra weight is what saves you from dying quickly but that penalty from multiple extenders can put you at a disadvantage without a regulator . I think that they need to add more armor HP's to Caldari's because most of the time we only have one or two low slots and low armor HP's as well and something about that needs to change because their not fast and don't have that great of stamina or stamina regen and you won't get a extra slot in most cases until you reach proto and that could create some problems for those who don't have proto fit's and who are just starting out . Breakin makes some good points though . With the re emergence of the Scrambler Rifle you're going to need more than just 350 shields to survive. He's running a C-1 which only has one low, I suggest running a plate. I run a complex reactive but starting out you don't have that which is why I recommend a plate. The additional armor actually allows you to get to cover to regen your shield. Don't listen to the people on here telling you to roll with 350 armor and 175 shields. You're doing it now already and complaining about the KDR and the reason why is there's scouts out there with that much HP. Unfortunately until you get a better suit and modules you'll have to dual tank in the C-1.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 4386	Posted - 2014.11.03 17:55:00 - [9] - Quote I run the C-1. It's not a terrible suit. It's just not a good suit for close-in work and terrible in brawls. Kinda like how minmatar suits are good at skirmish warfare. Amarr hold a line like champs. Gallente brawl. EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
Son-Of A-Gun Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1411	Posted - 2014.11.03 18:04:00 - [10] - Quote Assuming that you have your cores up al the way and suit skill, this is how I would roll with it: Basic recharger Ehd energizer Comp extender SB-39 RR Std IP Compact nano Comp regulator *** 403 shield 194 armor 1.5/second armor repair + repair nano 60.28/second shield regen This fit is comparable to the G-I fit I always use: 194 shield 437 armor 18.12/ armor repair 20/second shield regen {:)}{3GÇó>

Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 4387	Posted - 2014.11.03 18:08:00 - [11] - Quote I'm a cheapass. Mlt extender x2 mlt recharger adv RR Mlt bolt pistol Whatever in the equipment. MLT Regulator. I usually kill more than die but all my cores are maxed too. EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 2625	Posted - 2014.11.03 18:09:00 - [12] - Quote First thing I'd consider is raising your core skills up to level 4 each before putting anything more expensive on your suit. By core I mean Engineering, Electronics, and the basic armor and shield skills giving you 5% more HP per level. It looks like your suit is underwhelming for an advanced. Also, in what environments are you using the SB-39? In urban it will more often then not get you killed, that thing is really for long-range shooting. "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
lmmortal BIoody D3ATH C4RD 2	Posted - 2014.11.03 18:25:00 - [13] - Quote Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Assuming that you have your cores up al the way and suit skill, this is how I would roll with it: Basic recharger Ehd energizer Comp extender SB-39 RR Std IP Compact nano Comp regulator *** 403 shield 194 armor 1.5/second armor repair + repair nano 60.28/second shield regen 3.25 seconds to begin regen 3.9 seconds to begin regen if depleted. This fit is comparable to the G-I fit I always use: 194 shield 437 armor 18.12/ armor repair 20/second shield regen 7 seconds to begin regen 10 seconds to begin regen if depleted. {edit>>> how the hell are you putting a regulator and an armor plate on a suit that only has one low slot ("C-I")? I found out that suit ill put in the post was a typo and this stupid iPhone corrects my spell with is dumb any ways I was the drop suit im using right now is the Caladri medium Frame C-I Series which the last upgrade before reaching assault suits and its ahs the added 2 low slots. Power changes everything
BL4CKST4R La Muerte Eterna Dark Taboo 3273	Posted - 2014.11.03 18:42:00 - [14] - Quote lmmortal BIoody wrote: Yes we all know that the Caladri are shield kings but from the last post I put up I took off the armor reps and added the basic armor plates but I this doesn't do the trick. here me out on this every time I get out of a fight trying to recharge my shields right next time I notice there a prototype scout waiting for me to turn around and get one shot. here the new and improve fitting im rolling out now State assault C-I 3 enhanced shields extenders A SB-38 Rail Rifle T-12 Ion Pistol Nanohives Basic shields Regulator Basic armor Plates Flux grenades Please someone tell what i'm doing wrong in this game. My K/D has drop big time from 2.49 to 1.11 (WTF) Idk I use the same suit except I use a slARR, and one enh energizer. Sidearm is smg. My kd is fine. supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
Middas Betancore Kirjuun Heiian 130	Posted - 2014.11.03 18:48:00 - [15] - Quote Wow some awful ideas Here's my adv fit 2 extender 2 energizer 2 regulator Assault Rail, Bolt pistol, injector All adv Dampners??! Kin cats?!? Just use a scout suit... Or if u really wanna be a *** use armour plates CEO-Kirjuun Heiian*-Caldari Faction Warfare Corp Join our public chat channel. Kirjuun Heiian*
Son-Of A-Gun Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1413	Posted - 2014.11.03 18:51:00 - [16] - Quote lmmortal BIoody wrote: Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Assuming that you have your cores up al the way and suit skill, this is how I would roll with it: Basic recharger Ehd energizer Comp extender SB-39 RR Std IP Compact nano Comp regulator *** 403 shield 194 armor 1.5/second armor repair + repair nano 60.28/second shield regen 3.25 seconds to begin regen 3.9 seconds to begin regen if depleted. This fit is comparable to the G-I fit I always use: 194 shield 437 armor 18.12/ armor repair 20/second shield regen 7 seconds to begin regen 10 seconds to begin regen if depleted. {edit>>> how the hell are you putting a regulator and an armor plate on a suit that only has one low slot ("C-I")? I found out that suit ill put in the post was a typo and this stupid iPhone corrects my spell with is dumb any ways I was the drop suit im using right now is the Caladri medium Frame C-I Series which the last upgrade before reaching assault suits and its ahs the added 2 low slots. Well in that case I'd go with another complex regulator then. That would put your time to regen at 2.26 and 2.71, if depleted, seconds to regen. And then just what ever other shield extender you can fit on, probably enhanced. Idk, I'm not skilled into adv Cal assault, so I can't see how the fitting would come out CPU/PG wise. {:)}{3GÇó>
Auris Lionesse Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 1075	Posted - 2014.11.03 18:52:00 - [17] - Quote your doing it wrong is why. you want proto shield regs. pop out of cover, kill, back into cover for 1-2seconds to heal. thats how proper shield tanking works since we dont have passive shield rep like eve. anyone telling you to drop the reg in a shield fitting is wrong and you should not listen to them. you just need better ones. Don't vote for iron wolf saber. Vote for someone who will help the community i.e. anyone else.
Coleman Gray Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 1288	Posted - 2014.11.03 18:53:00 - [18] - Quote That's not because your shield tanking, there is always a scout nearby, their rats, always at least one within 3m Original Commando, before all you posers just saying
Mike Ox Bigger KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 339	Posted - 2014.11.03 19:07:00 - [19] - Quote Middas Betancore wrote: Wow some awful ideas Dampners??! Kin cats?!? Just use a scout suit... Or if u really wanna be a *** use armour plates Scrubs use scouts. Real men rock Assaults and a proto dampener on an assault is ***** amazing.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 4398	Posted - 2014.11.03 19:28:00 - [20] - Quote Mike Ox Bigger wrote: Middas Betancore wrote: Wow some awful ideas Dampners??! Kin cats?!? Just use a scout suit... Or if u really wanna be a *** use armour plates Scrubs use scouts. Real men rock Assaults and a proto dampener on an assault is *** amazing. just like maxed ewar skills + precision enhancer + range mod on a fatsuit is also ***** amazing. but a straightfight cal medium suit (run assault ASAP, seriously ditch the generic frames) at the advanced level use one of the following: reg + rep reg + ferroscale reg + reactive reg + reg NOTICE A PATTERN HERE??? DON'T DITCH THE REGULATOR EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.

Lloyd Orfay SHAKING BABIES FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE 157	Posted - 2014.11.03 19:34:00 - [21] - Quote lmmortal BIoody wrote: Yes we all know that the Caladri are shield kings but from the last post I put up I took off the armor reps and added the basic armor plates but I this doesn't do the trick. here me out on this every time I get out of a fight trying to recharge my shields right next time I notice there a prototype scout waiting for me to turn around and get one shot. here the new and improve fitting im rolling out now State assault C-I 3 enhanced shields extenders A SB-38 Rail Rifle T-12 Ion Pistol Nanohives Basic shields Regulator Basic armor Plates Flux grenades Please someone tell what i'm doing wrong in this game. My K/D has drop big time from 2.49 to 1.11 (WTF) If possible get enhanced shield regulators and drop the armour late and shield regulator for two shield regulators two shield regulators will be 50% less time for shield recharge delay and depleted recharge. With the two adv shield regulators your recharge delay will be 2.5 seconds and depleted recharge 3 seconds. If possible drop one extender for basic/adv shield energiser Replace SB-38 rail with an Assault Rail Rifle, those perform much better now but the iron sights is a bad choice of scope replacement, so you may need to learn to aim with it. Replace the ion pistol with an SMG, magsec or breach SMG as those are a bit more reliable. Breach scrambler pistil might help too If possible use compact nanohives or if not keep the nanohives. And thats how you will more properly use a caldari assault fit. On small vacation surfing on Caldari Tanks.
CUSE WarLord KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1	Posted - 2014.11.03 19:34:00 - [22] - Quote my proto caldari slaying suit. 3 extenders, 2 energizers, 2 regulators, 1 reactive plate. proto rail rifle proto Magsec core grenades.
Middas Betancore Kirjuun Heiian 131	Posted - 2014.11.03 19:34:00 - [23] - Quote If im honest.... Before we had cal scouts Used to run cal assault shotgun Dampner Speed Stamina Though now has all suits...I keep roles restricted to certain frames CEO-Kirjuun Heiian-Caldari Faction Warfare Corp Join our public chat channel. Kirjuun Heiian
Middas Betancore Kirjuun Heiian 131	Posted - 2014.11.03 19:37:00 - [24] - Quote U now have a cal alt CUSE? After all ur "smack talk"? Unusual... CEO-Kirjuun Heiian-Caldari Faction Warfare Corp Join our public chat channel. Kirjuun Heiian
Middas Betancore Kirjuun Heiian 131	Posted - 2014.11.03 19:40:00 - [25] - Quote As for pro dampner...kind of like the idea..but gal scouts having precision, active scanners... Sounds bad... But if it works for u..yay CEO-Kirjuun Heiian-Caldari Faction Warfare Corp Join our public chat channel. Kirjuun Heiian
Son-Of A-Gun Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1414	Posted - 2014.11.03 19:53:00 - [26] - Quote Lloyd Orfay wrote: two shield regulators will be 50% less time for shield recharge delay and depleted recharge. With the two adv shield regulators your recharge delay will be 2.5 seconds and depleted recharge 3 seconds. Wrong. When are you guys going to learn to do the maths and stuff? Two enhanced would bring your regen delay time down to 2.93 and 3.52 if depleted. Maths! {:)}{3GÇó>
Killer's Coys Prima Gallicus 133	Posted - 2014.11.03 20:21:00 - [27] - Quote Fit I always use : 1) Assault rush (C-I) => http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/84/5538 - Toxin AR - Toxin SMG - C-7 Flux grenade - Nanohive - Complex shield extender - enhanced shield energizer - basic light damager - enhanced armor repair 2) Assault regen (C-I) => http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/84/8625 - Toxin AR (yeah, the basic RR isn't good for CQC so I use the AR) - Magsec SMG - C-7 Flux grenade - nanohive -Complex shield extender - Enhanced shield energizer - Basic shield recharger - Complex shield regulator Let's talk about ADV and PRO 3) Assault C/1 series => http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/84/8626 - SL-4 ARR - N7-A Magsec SMG - Flux grenade - Nanohive - Complex shield extender x2 - Enhanced shield energizer x2 - Complex shield regulator - Enhanced cardiac regulator 4) Assault ck.0 => http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/84/5657 - Ishukone ARR - Kaalakiota Magsec SMG - C-7 Flux grenade - Ishukone Gauged Nanohive - Complex shield extender x3 - Enhanced shield energizer x2 - Complex shield regulator x2 - Enhanced cardiac regulator I hope have helped (I don't know if it's a correct language lol) Logibro, you're my boy
DDx77 Kinsho Swords Caldari State 17	Posted - 2014.11.03 21:04:00 - [28] - Quote [quote=Killer's Coys]Fit I always use : 1) Assault rush (C-I) => http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/84/5538 2) Assault regen (C-I) => http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/84/8625 3) Assault C/1 series => http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/84/8626 4) Assault ck.0 => http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/84/5657 I like all these ideas I would probably use a comp reactive plate on some of them If you are staying at range with the RR I would recommend using a bolt pistol I feel the ion pistol is better for an armor tank fit because of its range In my opinion a compact nanohive is a must for a caldari fit for that armor regen Also as has been recommended try using enhanced regulators and rechargers If you're using loyalty points you can get them in the caldari store I think the amar store has enchanted reactive plates too
Killer's Coys Prima Gallicus 133	Posted - 2014.11.03 21:11:00 - [29] - Quote DDx77 wrote: [quote=Killer's Coys]Fit I always use : 1) Assault rush (C-I) => http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/84/5538 2) Assault regen (C-I) => http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/84/8625 3) Assault C/1 series => http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/84/8626 4) Assault ck.0 => http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/84/5657 I like all these ideas I would probably use a comp reactive plate on some of them If you are staying at range with the RR I would recommend using a bolt pistol I feel the ion pistol is better for an armor tank fit because of its range In my opinion a compact nanohive is a must for a caldari fit for that armor regen Also as has been recommended try using enhanced regulators and rechargers If you're using loyalty points you can get them in the caldari store I think the amar store has enchanted reactive plates too Hmm... Maybe I havn't understood your post completly... but... I'll tray haha I've the complex shield regulator, and I'm running the complex shield energizer - I don't use the blot pistol because you can't attack several ennemies at the same time Same thing for the ion pistol (I must say, I've skilled the SMG (minma weapon) all big skills level 5, so I use it or the magsec) - I used a complex reactive plate, but I prefer the cardiac regu, I can't jump and run almost all the time - I love saying that : A Caldari without shield is a dead Caldari (If it's a real Caldari)... So I prefer play with my shield, and try not to lose it. That's my opinion, yes a compact nanohive is good, but you only have 1 I prefer playing with 4 PROTO NANOHIVE MOUHAHAHAHA Logibro, you're my boy
lmmortal BIoody D3ATH C4RD 2	Posted - 2014.11.03 21:43:00 - [30] - Quote okay so right now im in the game. and want to say thanks for your feed back now either way I hope this helps out my k/d Power changes everything



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