If CCP decides to bring them back, I hope they do, I've been thinking about some of the possible issues we might have.

I've studied all the damages that the LRG Railgun turrets can do from Basic to Proto. Now, I remember my Enforcer & Marauder tank fits. The damages the turrets do now I really believe will not be suffice enough to even bother a full proto Enforcer & especially a Marauder tank.

A Proto Rail Sagaris/Surya Vs. Proto Rail Sagaris/Surya is not gonna work. They'll never kill one another even if they tried -- assuming the pilots are taking care of their Caldari steel. The LRG Rail simply just doesn't have the DPS even with DMG mods.

- I'm pretty sure a well-fitted Falchion/Vayu will have the same deal going on.

So, I think CCP may have to rework the LRG Rails a bit & with that comes a lot of balancing with Dropships Vs. Rail.
Or they could rework the tanks themselves, But in the end, I don't see that helping the Rail much. Marauder bonuses might be able to help, But those bonuses must be tread on lightly.

Just some thought on the possible upcoming matter. Any thoughts from any of you?


--Also, Credit goes to ShadowOfWar88 for brainstorming with me.

Variants of our turrets to return would be nice, But CCP needs to decide what is fair base damage Per Tier Level. Cause, Base damage for Rails suck & it won't do the job Vs. another tank that is a higher tier than you.

I remember those days as well, My friend. You feel like you were more skilled then because you had a greater challenge to face. You were engaging other tanks in a tank that was sub-par to theirs. Doesn't mean your skill is lower any today -- You've just become like those tankers you faced back then.

I just want this to be fair. Keeping in mind High risk & high reward goes in with it. If you bring out a Marauder, A Militia class in no way should blow you up -- Even if you sat there & returned no fire.

I'm hoping to see the vehicle fun return

i heard there were also more turrets back then too. Is that true?

Yeah our old modules will have to return eventually. Also, I've always used shield vehicles with exception of an Incubus -- Which now is a wasted SP investment.

Active reps were better. They repaired more & kept you on your toes during an engagement. I think CCP introduced passive armor reps for vehicles because some people can't flip on multiple modules. I want to see more resistance plating or shields of different types.

Say like you wanted to make a Vayu brawler type fit. Ion Cannon, Plate, Repair & a Armor hardener that gave more resistance to a specific damage type. Like other blasters or missiles. Maybe put a DMG control & injector & DMG mod for high slots. That would be an all around sound Vayu fit & makes it more unique for its own combat situation -- Which would be close range.

It would be nice. Specialists again we would be.

Read the Destiny forum some time. Those people take "whiny b*tch" to an entirely new and exciting level.

But as far as things go I think AV and V should be reverted to Chromosome.

Yes this means I think LAVS that are FREE and UNTANKED should be suicide sleds.

But the only place where marauders were well-balanced was chrome. They were hard, but they could be killed, especially if you were like me, and neurotic enough to figure out how to torch them.

However...

Due to the fact that militia tanks would basically be dogchow in the face of proto AV were vehicles and the toys that kill them to revert to chrome, I think Sica and Soma BPOs, as well as militia module BPOs for vehicles should be a thing, along with militia dropships and militia jeeps.

Vehicles and Av need a sharp shakeup, and there's enough players with AV and the SP changes will make it possible to skill AV RAPIDLY. Some survivability/killing improvements may be in order.

You're just never gonna get me to agree that vehicles shouldn't be soloable by AV.

One player must ALWAYS be counterable by one player.

Doesn't have to be EASY though. Just has to be doable with a reasonable application of skill, tactics and positioning.

One thing I know is, A good pilot will know when to move & when to stay. I don't think swarms should solo a Tank just because swarms are EZ.

Forges on the other hand, Completely different. Takes a lot of skill & patience to be devastating with a forge gun. If the tanker you are lighting up is a moron, Then yes -- It should be solo-able. Which makes the account, Every tank is already solo-able. Just depends if the pilot is a moron or not. I still believe the old tanks should remain around this.


I don't hate AV. Its not the player's fault for specing into something that they will need. In fact, I admire most AV-ers that stand against the war machines. There is only one thing about AV that I do hate & its becoming an epidemic in every single match I play -- Jihad Jeeps. Nothing is more stupid when you defeat another tanker & then he just puts remotes on a cheap militia LAV and 1KO's you.

This is actually one of the core points of the discussion. In fact I would say it is THE core point.