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manboar thunder fist
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2014.11.02 12:18:00 -
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The medium suits aren't stealth suits, they never have been and never will be. That's why they have HP not far off heavy suits now.
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manboar thunder fist
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2014.11.02 12:20:00 -
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On top of this, the scanners are very costly and the total skill sink for a gal logi proto fit with proto active scanners is quite high. For months now the active scanners have been lame at best, it's time for them to enter the limelight.
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manboar thunder fist
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2014.11.03 15:00:00 -
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Jebus McKing wrote:manboar thunder fist wrote:The medium suits aren't stealth suits, they never have been and never will be. That's why they have HP not far off heavy suits now.
On top of this, the scanners are very costly and the total skill sink for a gal logi proto fit with proto active scanners is quite high. For months now the active scanners have been lame at best, it's time for them to enter the limelight. So the only suit capable of avoiding scans is scouts and then you go on complaining that active scanners are useless because they can't scan EVERYTHING. With 3x damps (which is 37.5% of total high/low slots of an Assault suit!!!) you won't even get close to the total HP of a Heavy if you also want to have anything else but damps and HP. The skill sink for a Gal Logi + proto active scanners is EXACTLY THE SAME as for any Medium suit + complex damps. Your point? On top of that:
- Gal Logi gives his whole squad and soon HIS WHOLE TEAM a scanning advantage even if the rest of the team has 0 SP into scanning.
- Gal Logi only needs to use 1 slot and this slot can't even be used for HP modules anyway, compared to 3x low slots a Medium suit would need to use for damps.
- Seeing someone on your radar and through walls is a MUCH BIGGER advantage than giving up 3x low slots in order to not show up. Damps won't even make you invisible, but an even easier target for people who actually put effort into playing this game by paying attention to their surroundings!
And I can't stand this BS talk about how bad active scanners are. THEY ARE NOT. Just because you can't scan Scouts doesn't mean that active scanners are worthless. Active scanners do not need a buff at all.Stefan Stahl wrote:Right now every medium suit that isn't running 3-5 complex dampeners is being perma-scanned by scouts at 60-80 meters and squad-shared. I don't think GalLogis are going to be the bigger problem. At least then I know that I've been scanned. You are completely exaggerating. In order to have a 60m scanrange a Scout needs 2x rangeamps (1x for Cal Scout), to even reach 85m a Scout would need 4x rangeamps (!!!). I think there are only a handful of Scouts with even close to 80m range, if at all. And using 3x damps would at least avoid scans from any scout that is not properly fit for scanning. Where now 3x damps on a Medium suit are just a waste because any Gal Logi with just a proto scanner will scan you anyway from 60-200m away. Scans are a weak mechanic, a tool for the lazy and incompetent. Scans make one guy see things, and damps make him blind again. Damps are not an advantage, they make you sacrifice a lot of slots only to merely avoid a disadvantage. Dampening has to become easier.
Scrub welcome to the land of the minmatar scout, where dampening is laughable at best. we have managed for so long, git good.
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manboar thunder fist
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2014.11.03 15:20:00 -
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@breaking me? or op?
scouts sacrifice those armour/speed modules for dampening.... a minmatar scout with dampeners has 80 armour.... and can still be seen by a gallente logi. why should an assault have more dampening than a min scout?
you should always play to the strengths of your role, scout's being ewar, stealth and suprise....
assaults being good at ranged engagements and HP superiority.
Commandos being supression and dual light weapon damage increase.
Heavys being short range suppression and high damage
Logis being support and tactical usage.
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manboar thunder fist
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2014.11.03 15:27:00 -
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I would like to point out to the oP that the cal and gal scouts are invisible to gal scout with A PROTO CLOAK ACTIVE and 2 dampeners.
This cloak is due to be nerfed further shortly, and while it is not active the scouts CAN be scanned. Only the gallente cannot be scanned without a cloak active, and that requires the usage of THREE slots for proto dampening, which is expensive on cpu AND hp survivability. The logi bonus does not need to be nerfed further, it is already one of the most underused suits in the game, is costly to use, much more so than dampening, and provides a fair and specialised bonus.
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