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H0riz0n Unlimit
Dead Man's Game RUST415
189
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Posted - 2014.11.01 16:07:00 -
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Arent they going to be FOTM with the new weekly cap? I mean if a St-201 can one-shot an ion cannon madrugar , how useless will be armor tanks? The only way to survive at the moment is increase armor (like duna) but if unfortunately meet a swarm launcher or a FG you are dead. The question is: are you going to nerf damage?number of missiles for volley? Giving us tanks variations? Or, as i think, norhing?
Italian? No, i simply born in it, thats not a my fault. 2nd generation tanker. Strategy wins all. "We hate the dick"o7
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Crimson ShieId
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
1262
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Posted - 2014.11.01 16:34:00 -
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They've already been nerfed. Just yesterday, I exploded while firing at a redberry. That's how UP they are. You just randomly blow up while shooting things!
Nova Knives are best sidearm.
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gustavo acosta
Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance
365
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Posted - 2014.11.01 17:44:00 -
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Crimson ShieId wrote:They've already been nerfed. Just yesterday, I exploded while firing at a redberry. That's how UP they are. You just randomly blow up while shooting things! That's the most euphoric time!
Gallente scout, heavy, logi, and assault
Eternal Can I haz ur isk?
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Atiim
13355
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Posted - 2014.11.01 17:52:00 -
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If your Ion Madrugar gets downed by an ST-201 you need to stop tanking.
The 1st Matari Commando
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LudiKure ninda
Dead Man's Game RUST415
134
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Posted - 2014.11.01 18:22:00 -
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Yeah maddy is not in good place right now,with all these missile tanks runnin around,and PRO swarms.. But gunny is a beast. 2 extenders and hardner or nitro (depends on your play stile) and youre good to go.
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
2310
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Posted - 2014.11.01 18:26:00 -
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Atiim wrote:If your Ion Madrugar gets downed by an ST-201 you need to stop tanking. As if you could do better.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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LudiKure ninda
Dead Man's Game RUST415
134
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Posted - 2014.11.01 18:28:00 -
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DMG modded ST is gonn kill 4k armor tank in one volley
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Henrietta Unknown
Nox Lupos
440
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Posted - 2014.11.01 18:34:00 -
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LudiKure ninda wrote:Yeah maddy is not in good place right now,with all these missile tanks runnin around,and PRO swarms.. But gunny is a beast. 2 extenders and hardner or nitro (depends on your play stile) and youre good to go. Really? Why not 1 cmplx extender and two hardeners? Hasn't failed me yet.
Give the Magsex some love.
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Henrietta Unknown
Nox Lupos
440
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Posted - 2014.11.01 18:35:00 -
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LudiKure ninda wrote:DMG modded ST is gonna kill 4k armor tank in one volley Dun forget the Rails.
Give the Magsex some love.
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LudiKure ninda
Dead Man's Game RUST415
134
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Posted - 2014.11.01 18:53:00 -
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Ups
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LudiKure ninda
Dead Man's Game RUST415
134
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Posted - 2014.11.01 18:55:00 -
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LudiKure ninda wrote:Henrietta Unknown wrote:[quote=LudiKure ninda]Yeah maddy is not in good place right now,with all these missile tanks runnin around,and PRO swarms.. But gunny is a beast. 2 extenders and hardner or nitro (depends on your play stile) and youre good to go. Really? Why not 1 cmplx extender and two hardeners? Hasn't failed me yet.
When you get shooted by a railgun with 3900 shields its offen too late to activate hardner chause youre shields are almoust down..
I use 2 extenders an a hardner on my railgun fittings, Nitro,hardner and extender 4 Missile tank extender,nitro and hardner on my blaster fittings.
Maddy--...still tryng to find good fitting
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H0riz0n Unlimit
Dead Man's Game RUST415
189
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Posted - 2014.11.01 19:30:00 -
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LudiKure ninda wrote:DMG modded ST is gonna kill 4k armor tank in one volley Exactly what i am sayng, i get shotted by a st-201 sica with 1 dam mode at least, @atiim i m tryng new fitting but more hp means less reps, and as maybe you know atm swarm are not bad as in the past
Italian? No, i simply born in it, thats not a my fault. 2nd generation tanker. Strategy wins all. "We hate the dick"o7
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens Capital Punishment.
2295
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Posted - 2014.11.01 20:25:00 -
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I am curious why you would assume that Missile Tanks would suddenly become Flavor of the Month because the cap is larger. If they were already good to the point that they capped out quickly and were just completely perfect at what they did, they would already be FotM. In truth, more of the missile tanks means dedicated Tankers will field fewer Madrugars or will field Madrugars that have a more favorable match up against Missile Tanks. If the former happens, you have a natural Predation Cycle.
"Ohh, there are a bunch of Madrugars. I better use a Missile Tank." "Ohh, there ARE a bunch of Madrugars. Here comes my Missile Tank." "Jeez, look at all these Missile Tanks. I am going to get my Shield Blaster." "Ohh, look at all these Shield Blasters. My Ion Madrugar is ready for this!"
In truth, I doubt either will really happen. People that favor Madrugars will use them and hate Missile tanks. People that favor Missile Tanks will hate Shield Tanks. People that favor Shield Tanks will absolutely hate getting hit in the back before their Hardener is on.
"This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
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Lupus Wolf
Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2014.11.01 20:32:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:In truth, I doubt either will really happen. People that favor Madrugars will use them and hate Missile tanks. People that favor Missile Tanks will hate Shield Tanks. People that favor Shield Tanks will absolutely hate getting hit in the back before their Hardener is on. And people that hate all of them will switch to jihad LAVs.
Gunnlogis with BLASTERS!?! BLASPHEMY!!! #MissilesFoLyfe
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
1331
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Posted - 2014.11.01 20:36:00 -
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LudiKure ninda wrote:DMG modded ST is gonna kill 4k armor tank in one volley Yeah , if you just sit there and take it , you know you can move out of the way and most people don't have sp's in turret speed .. so you can flank them , I know I do and it can be done .
That's the problem with most players is that once their DS or HAV begins to take damage they have this " deer in the headlights " syndrome and they just remain in one spot and that makes it hella easy to get popped .
You have to keep moving and HAV's are not indestructible , with the way things are you have to keep moving and keep your head on a swivel .
Thank you Rattati , the DEV crew and the CPM for getting the job of 1.9 done .
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens Capital Punishment.
2297
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Posted - 2014.11.01 20:37:00 -
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Lupus Wolf wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:In truth, I doubt either will really happen. People that favor Madrugars will use them and hate Missile tanks. People that favor Missile Tanks will hate Shield Tanks. People that favor Shield Tanks will absolutely hate getting hit in the back before their Hardener is on. And people that hate all of them will switch to jihad LAVs. So absolutely no change.
"This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
1331
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Posted - 2014.11.01 20:41:00 -
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H0riz0n Unlimit wrote:LudiKure ninda wrote:DMG modded ST is gonna kill 4k armor tank in one volley Exactly what i am sayng, i get shotted by a st-201 sica with 1 dam mode at least, @atiim i m tryng new fitting but more hp means less reps, and as maybe you know atm swarm are not bad as in the past That's part of the problem , most people I see with massive HP's in their HAV's just make my mouth water because I know 9 times out of 10 they have no regen and if I can knock down those HP's , they will panic and pop for the most part .
It's all in the build and if you have experienced tankers on the field , they will exploit you and that fact because for the most part , they can look at your HP's and predict how their going to approach you .
It's the scrubs that you can get away with that with .
Thank you Rattati , the DEV crew and the CPM for getting the job of 1.9 done .
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
2624
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Posted - 2014.11.01 21:30:00 -
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Atiim wrote:If your Ion Madrugar gets downed by an ST-201 you need to stop tanking.
This.
Even a Maddie with bare minimum skills to use an ADV rail, basic nitro, basic repper and a pair of ADV plates should with a minimum of sense be able to hunt a missile tank.
Blasters are garbage against other tanks, use rails.
"You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
14052
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Posted - 2014.11.01 22:52:00 -
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H0riz0n Unlimit wrote:Arent they going to be FOTM with the new weekly cap? I mean if a St-201 can one-shot an ion cannon madrugar , how useless will be armor tanks? The only way to survive at the moment is increase armor (like duna) but if unfortunately meet a swarm launcher or a FG you are dead. The question is: are you going to nerf damage?number of missiles for volley? Giving us tanks variations? Or, as i think, norhing?
That depends mate/ Are you only running base 4000 armour.... if so yeah you'll get one shot. Put your hardener on and watch those missiles just explode harmlessly as you lay into them with and Ion Cannon.
IMO in terms of balancing armour vehicles we need something like a 200 Shield and 400 Armour nerf to Maddy HP and 5-10% increase to armour hardener values.
GÇ£How does this all work then?GÇ¥
GÇ£Like so Choirboy.GÇ¥
- Mila to Kador, Sub Zero Club, Shoashu Sasaanko
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H0riz0n Unlimit
Dead Man's Game RUST415
190
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Posted - 2014.11.01 23:34:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:H0riz0n Unlimit wrote:Arent they going to be FOTM with the new weekly cap? I mean if a St-201 can one-shot an ion cannon madrugar , how useless will be armor tanks? The only way to survive at the moment is increase armor (like duna) but if unfortunately meet a swarm launcher or a FG you are dead. The question is: are you going to nerf damage?number of missiles for volley? Giving us tanks variations? Or, as i think, norhing? That depends mate/ Are you only running base 4000 armour.... if so yeah you'll get one shot. Put your hardener on and watch those missiles just explode harmlessly as you lay into them with and Ion Cannon. IMO in terms of balancing armour vehicles we need something like a 200 Shield and 400 Armour nerf to Maddy HP and 5-10% increase to armour hardener values. Agree but if a missilistic took you without hardner activated you will die while you put on hardner and fuel injector
Italian? No, i simply born in it, thats not a my fault. 2nd generation tanker. Strategy wins all. "We hate the dick"o7
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
2715
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Posted - 2014.11.01 23:36:00 -
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OMG now you'll have to choose between being resistant to Tank AV, or immune to infantry AV!! Oh the horror!
"Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
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H0riz0n Unlimit
Dead Man's Game RUST415
190
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Posted - 2014.11.01 23:45:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:OMG now you'll have to choose between being resistant to Tank AV, or immune to infantry AV!! Oh the horror! I have no problem in play XT-201 every game, good vs infantry and vehicles, i'm only sayng madrugar is useless, i can reach 4400 hp of armor on gunlogi and put on it 2 shield hardner, when i fit a madrugar the second high slot is quite always empty and i have optimization at 5 in blaster( as in all the turrepts)
Italian? No, i simply born in it, thats not a my fault. 2nd generation tanker. Strategy wins all. "We hate the dick"o7
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