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Slave of MORTE
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.10.31 14:52:00 -
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I wish they would release the other racial shotguns ..i picture the amar shotgun like the fusion rifle from destiny has a charge time and longer range more focused spread ..wouldn't it be awesome if there were 4 shotguns with 4 different profiles 1 shoting you in 4 different situations ..
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Apothecary Za'ki
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Posted - 2014.10.31 14:55:00 -
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Slave of MORTE wrote:I wish they would release the other racial shotguns ..i picture the amar shotgun like the fusion rifle from destiny has a charge time and longer range more focused spread ..wouldn't it be awesome if there were 4 shotguns with 4 different profiles 1 shoting you in 4 different situations .. you missed the devpost abotu the new officer weapons.. PLC with 2 in the clip.. FULL AUTO SHOTGUN! and a few other things..
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Slave of MORTE
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.10.31 15:05:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Slave of MORTE wrote:I wish they would release the other racial shotguns ..i picture the amar shotgun like the fusion rifle from destiny has a charge time and longer range more focused spread ..wouldn't it be awesome if there were 4 shotguns with 4 different profiles 1 shoting you in 4 different situations .. you missed the devpost abotu the new officer weapons.. PLC with 2 in the clip.. FULL AUTO SHOTGUN! and a few other things.. So ..? Ur point officer weapons are not new racial variants
There is no amar heavy weapon There is no amar av There are no amar tanks There are no amar turrets There are no amar lavs There is no amar shotgun there is no amar smg or fully auto sidearm of any kind These are things I care about
I have max carried on several officer weapons officer gear means didly squat it's a vanity item not real content
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Spectral Clone
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.10.31 15:11:00 -
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gallente got the shotgun, caldari got the sniper rifle, amarr got the laser rifle, and minmatar got the MD.
Every race have got a specialised weapon. Its balanced. No need for amarr shotgun. ;D
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Vell0cet
Vengeance Unbound RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.10.31 15:16:00 -
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If the Amarr did get a shotgun I'd like it to look like this.
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Apothecary Za'ki
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Posted - 2014.10.31 15:16:00 -
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Slave of MORTE wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Slave of MORTE wrote:I wish they would release the other racial shotguns ..i picture the amar shotgun like the fusion rifle from destiny has a charge time and longer range more focused spread ..wouldn't it be awesome if there were 4 shotguns with 4 different profiles 1 shoting you in 4 different situations .. you missed the devpost abotu the new officer weapons.. PLC with 2 in the clip.. FULL AUTO SHOTGUN! and a few other things.. So ..? Ur point officer weapons are not new racial variants There is no amar heavy weapon There is no amar av There are no amar tanks There are no amar turrets There are no amar lavs There is no amar shotgun there is no amar smg or fully auto sidearm of any kind These are things I care about I have max carried on several officer weapons officer gear means didly squat it's a vanity item not real content i know but full auto shotgun!
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Apothecary Za'ki
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Posted - 2014.10.31 15:20:00 -
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Vell0cet wrote:If the Amarr did get a shotgun I'd like it to look like this. nowp.. however.. Amarr heavy weapon could look soemthing like this.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOWNKGzU6TA
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.10.31 15:41:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Slave of MORTE wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Slave of MORTE wrote:I wish they would release the other racial shotguns ..i picture the amar shotgun like the fusion rifle from destiny has a charge time and longer range more focused spread ..wouldn't it be awesome if there were 4 shotguns with 4 different profiles 1 shoting you in 4 different situations .. you missed the devpost abotu the new officer weapons.. PLC with 2 in the clip.. FULL AUTO SHOTGUN! and a few other things.. So ..? Ur point officer weapons are not new racial variants There is no amar heavy weapon There is no amar av There are no amar tanks There are no amar turrets There are no amar lavs There is no amar shotgun there is no amar smg or fully auto sidearm of any kind These are things I care about I have max carried on several officer weapons officer gear means didly squat it's a vanity item not real content i know but full auto shotgun!
full auto shotgun that couldnt hit the broad side of a barn if it tried. Have you seen bon's youtube video on how terrible the hit detection is with that thing?
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Victor Moody Stahl
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.10.31 16:55:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:gallente got the shotgun, caldari got the sniper rifle, amarr got the laser rifle, and minmatar got the MD.
Every race have got a specialised weapon. Its balanced. No need for amarr shotgun. ;D
You are obviously either using out-of-date information (Precision Rifle says hi), or are stupid. Every race should have a weapon for a particular role.
Such roles include "area denial" (MD, LR), "AV" (Swarms, PLC, somewhat the Breach MD), and "close assault" (MD, shotgun). Obviously, some weapons fulfill multiple roles, often through the use of different variants; for example the assault variant of the MD is better for area denial due to its incredible blast radius, while the Breach has enough direct-shot damage that, if tweaked appropriately for it's efficiency values against vehicles, it would be quite respectable as an AV weapon.
That's not to say that ever race should have a weapon that functions the same way- a Mass Driver uses its indirect fire capability as well as a large blast radius for area denial, while the Laser Rifle uses pinpoint accuracy and ultra-mega-death DPS to do the same thing- but that there should be a weapon to fulfill a given role for every race.
I also want to point out that using different variants to fulfill a given role with the same basic platform is actually an interesting way to do so, and potentially a logical one as well.
Slave of MORTE wrote:I wish they would release the other racial shotguns ..i picture the amar shotgun like the fusion rifle from destiny has a charge time and longer range more focused spread ..wouldn't it be awesome if there were 4 shotguns with 4 different profiles 1 shoting you in 4 different situations ..
As for you, OP... I like this idea. Moreover, it mechanically fits very well with the scrambler rifle (both have a charge mechanic), while also being something one could use the overheat to balance out- after all, a longer-range blapshot gun is somewhat difficult to balance, IMO, and the overheat mechanics lead to a couple of things:
1. Limiting the number of full-charge (IE, full-damage) shots before overheat is an excellent way to balance the potential damage output; it would be a little like the charge sniper rifle, where you can partially charge for multiple rapid-fire shots at much lower damage, or you can take the time to fully charge for a blapshot.
2. Also syncs well with the Amarr Assault bonus. This is self-explanatory.
It's also my opinion that the term "fusion rifle" is very well suited to an Amarrian shotgun-analogue designation.
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Slave of MORTE
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2014.10.31 17:37:00 -
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Victor Moody Stahl wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:gallente got the shotgun, caldari got the sniper rifle, amarr got the laser rifle, and minmatar got the MD.
Every race have got a specialised weapon. Its balanced. No need for amarr shotgun. ;D You are obviously either using out-of-date information (Precision Rifle says hi), or are stupid. Every race should have a weapon for a particular role. Such roles include "area denial" (MD, LR), "AV" (Swarms, PLC, somewhat the Breach MD), and "close assault" (MD, shotgun). Obviously, some weapons fulfill multiple roles, often through the use of different variants; for example the assault variant of the MD is better for area denial due to its incredible blast radius, while the Breach has enough direct-shot damage that, if tweaked appropriately for it's efficiency values against vehicles, it would be quite respectable as an AV weapon. That's not to say that ever race should have a weapon that functions the same way- a Mass Driver uses its indirect fire capability as well as a large blast radius for area denial, while the Laser Rifle uses pinpoint accuracy and ultra-mega-death DPS to do the same thing- but that there should be a weapon to fulfill a given role for every race. I also want to point out that using different variants to fulfill a given role with the same basic platform is actually an interesting way to do so, and potentially a logical one as well. Slave of MORTE wrote:I wish they would release the other racial shotguns ..i picture the amar shotgun like the fusion rifle from destiny has a charge time and longer range more focused spread ..wouldn't it be awesome if there were 4 shotguns with 4 different profiles 1 shoting you in 4 different situations .. As for you, OP... I like this idea. Moreover, it mechanically fits very well with the scrambler rifle (both have a charge mechanic), while also being something one could use the overheat to balance out- after all, a longer-range blapshot gun is somewhat difficult to balance, IMO, and the overheat mechanics lead to a couple of things: 1. Limiting the number of full-charge (IE, full-damage) shots before overheat is an excellent way to balance the potential damage output; it would be a little like the charge sniper rifle, where you can partially charge for multiple rapid-fire shots at much lower damage, or you can take the time to fully charge for a blapshot. 2. Also syncs well with the Amarr Assault bonus. This is self-explanatory. It's also my opinion that the term "fusion rifle" is very well suited to an Amarrian shotgun-analogue designation. Ahh a song to my ears I picture it even better now sir thank you the over heat ahh I can almost see it ..speed regen tank my amar assault with dmg mods in the highs and my fusion rifle..i has goosebumps
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Victor Moody Stahl
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.10.31 17:46:00 -
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I'd love it for my Amarr logi, because then I'd pretty much have a LASER SHOTGUN for city engagements rather than using the CR (dat lack of PG dependence yo) or the current shotgun (it's okay, but it's still not shiny golden laser awesome).
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Slave of MORTE
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.10.31 17:55:00 -
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Victor Moody Stahl wrote:I'd love it for my Amarr logi, because then I'd pretty much have a LASER SHOTGUN for city engagements rather than using the CR (dat lack of PG dependence yo) or the current shotgun (it's okay, but it's still not shiny golden laser awesome). Right laser shot gun 1 burst scp I bet I wouldn't have to carry a heretic gun to not be disadvantaged on cqc with a half alpha amar shotty
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Lloyd Orfay
Commando Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.10.31 17:57:00 -
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Any shotgun that can kill people in less than 3 hits and can be used by a scout is no welcomed shotgun.
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Slave of MORTE
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.10.31 18:00:00 -
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Lloyd Orfay wrote:Any shotgun that can kill people in less than 3 hits and can be used by a scout is no welcomed shotgun. So your saying shotguns we have need a nerf ok
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Hector Carson
BLACK MAGES INC.
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Posted - 2014.10.31 18:01:00 -
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Slave of MORTE wrote:I wish they would release the other racial shotguns ..i picture the amar shotgun like the fusion rifle from destiny has a charge time and longer range more focused spread ..wouldn't it be awesome if there were 4 shotguns with 4 different profiles 1 shoting you in 4 different situations .. they'll never do it
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Forlorn Destrier
Havok Dynasty
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Posted - 2014.10.31 18:03:00 -
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Slave of MORTE wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Slave of MORTE wrote:I wish they would release the other racial shotguns ..i picture the amar shotgun like the fusion rifle from destiny has a charge time and longer range more focused spread ..wouldn't it be awesome if there were 4 shotguns with 4 different profiles 1 shoting you in 4 different situations .. you missed the devpost abotu the new officer weapons.. PLC with 2 in the clip.. FULL AUTO SHOTGUN! and a few other things.. So ..? Ur point officer weapons are not new racial variants There is no amar heavy weapon There is no amar av There are no amar tanks There are no amar turrets There are no amar lavs There is no amar shotgun there is no amar smg or fully auto sidearm of any kind These are things I care about I have max carried on several officer weapons officer gear means didly squat it's a vanity item not real content
I'm more disturbed by a Minmatar preferring Amarr tech over our own.
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Slave of MORTE
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2014.10.31 18:08:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:Slave of MORTE wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Slave of MORTE wrote:I wish they would release the other racial shotguns ..i picture the amar shotgun like the fusion rifle from destiny has a charge time and longer range more focused spread ..wouldn't it be awesome if there were 4 shotguns with 4 different profiles 1 shoting you in 4 different situations .. you missed the devpost abotu the new officer weapons.. PLC with 2 in the clip.. FULL AUTO SHOTGUN! and a few other things.. So ..? Ur point officer weapons are not new racial variants There is no amar heavy weapon There is no amar av There are no amar tanks There are no amar turrets There are no amar lavs There is no amar shotgun there is no amar smg or fully auto sidearm of any kind These are things I care about I have max carried on several officer weapons officer gear means didly squat it's a vanity item not real content I'm more disturbed by a Minmatar preferring Amarr tech over our own. TRAITOR. I am but a lowly servant dedicated to purging my heresy my mistress Mortedeamor has opened my eyes to the glorious truth
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MrShooter01
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.10.31 18:55:00 -
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Victor Moody Stahl wrote:Every race should have a weapon for a particular role.
nonono
it's realistic and believable that the Caldari settle every fight with sniper rifles
After all, in the real world, there aren't a million different variants of every type of weapon imaginable to fill a needed combat role developed independently by different nations and corporations. That's crazy talk. During the Cold War, the US bought millions of RPG-7s from Russia, who bought millions of Remington 870 shotguns from the US, because the thought of developing their own versions of those weapon archetypes was completely alien to them
Painfully obvious weapon archetypes like some sort of battle rifle (done), pistol (done), SMG, Shotgun, Sniper rifle, infantry carried anti-vehicle weapons and so on absolutely should have been independently developed by all races hundreds of ****ing years ago, and I resent the idea some posters seem to have that my internet spaceship race is too stupid to see the need for and design something like a scattershot coilgun firing a cluster of steel darts because the gallente invented the "shotgun" first |
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True Companion Planetary Requisitions
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Posted - 2014.10.31 18:59:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:gallente got the shotgun, caldari got the sniper rifle, amarr got the laser rifle, and minmatar got the MD.
Every race have got a specialised weapon. Its balanced. No need for amarr shotgun. ;D
Yeah, it doesn't fit with the racial combat philosophy. They'd just as soon chuck a flashbang grenade.
Also, shotgun=caldari close range weapon.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2014.10.31 19:05:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:gallente got the shotgun, caldari got the sniper rifle, amarr got the laser rifle, and minmatar got the MD.
Every race have got a specialised weapon. Its balanced. No need for amarr shotgun. ;D
FALSE
The mass driver is not a unique racial specific type of weapon. Logibro confirmed that it was a "launcher" type weapon i the same category as the swarm launcher and plasma cannon. The Amarr lack a launcher weapon.
The sniper rifle is also not a unique racial specific type of weapon. There are plans (for Legion at least) of a Minmatar racial variant called the precision rifle. It was shown at Fanfest, and it is featured in this image released by CCP http://dust514.com/media/wallpapers/sniper-overwatch/
Your claims of balance are clearly false when you count up how many weapons each race has.
Amarr: 3 [SCR, LR, SCP] Minmatar: 5 [SMG, FP, CR, MD, HMG] Gallente: 5 [AR, IOP, SG, PLC] Caldari: 7 [SL, FG, SR, RR, BP, M-SMG, NK]
One race has 7, while another has only 3 weapons. Far from balanced.
@OP: Fusion rifle seems like a perfect Amarr shotgun, and I would be fine with one in Dust... though I'd prefer something more creative.
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Slave of MORTE
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.10.31 20:17:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:gallente got the shotgun, caldari got the sniper rifle, amarr got the laser rifle, and minmatar got the MD.
Every race have got a specialised weapon. Its balanced. No need for amarr shotgun. ;D
FALSE The mass driver is not a unique racial specific type of weapon. Logibro confirmed that it was a "launcher" type weapon i the same category as the swarm launcher and plasma cannon. The Amarr lack a launcher weapon. The sniper rifle is also not a unique racial specific type of weapon. There are plans (for Legion at least) of a Minmatar racial variant called the precision rifle. It was shown at Fanfest, and it is featured in this image released by CCP http://dust514.com/media/wallpapers/sniper-overwatch/Your claims of balance are clearly false when you count up how many weapons each race has. Amarr: 3 [SCR, LR, SCP] Minmatar: 5 [SMG, FP, CR, MD, HMG] Gallente: 5 [AR, IOP, SG, PLC] Caldari: 7 [SL, FG, SR, RR, BP, M-SMG, NK] One race has 7, while another has only 3 weapons. Far from balanced. @OP: Fusion rifle seems like a perfect Amarr shotgun, and I would be fine with one in Dust... though I'd prefer something more creative. How hard would it be to give amars a flash bang grenade
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
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Posted - 2014.11.09 18:05:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:@OP: Fusion rifle seems like a perfect Amarr shotgun, and I would be fine with one in Dust... though I'd prefer something more creative. I think it's creative just not original.
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.11.09 18:27:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:Slave of MORTE wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Slave of MORTE wrote:I wish they would release the other racial shotguns ..i picture the amar shotgun like the fusion rifle from destiny has a charge time and longer range more focused spread ..wouldn't it be awesome if there were 4 shotguns with 4 different profiles 1 shoting you in 4 different situations .. you missed the devpost abotu the new officer weapons.. PLC with 2 in the clip.. FULL AUTO SHOTGUN! and a few other things.. So ..? Ur point officer weapons are not new racial variants There is no amar heavy weapon There is no amar av There are no amar tanks There are no amar turrets There are no amar lavs There is no amar shotgun there is no amar smg or fully auto sidearm of any kind These are things I care about I have max carried on several officer weapons officer gear means didly squat it's a vanity item not real content I'm more disturbed by a Minmatar preferring Amarr tech over our own. TRAITOR. what? what is better then killing amarr scrubs with their own toys?
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Satja Askarin
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.11.09 19:09:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Slave of MORTE wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Slave of MORTE wrote:I wish they would release the other racial shotguns ..i picture the amar shotgun like the fusion rifle from destiny has a charge time and longer range more focused spread ..wouldn't it be awesome if there were 4 shotguns with 4 different profiles 1 shoting you in 4 different situations .. you missed the devpost abotu the new officer weapons.. PLC with 2 in the clip.. FULL AUTO SHOTGUN! and a few other things.. So ..? Ur point officer weapons are not new racial variants There is no amar heavy weapon There is no amar av There are no amar tanks There are no amar turrets There are no amar lavs There is no amar shotgun there is no amar smg or fully auto sidearm of any kind These are things I care about I have max carried on several officer weapons officer gear means didly squat it's a vanity item not real content I'm more disturbed by a Minmatar preferring Amarr tech over our own. TRAITOR. what? what is better then killing amarr scrubs with their own toys?
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