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DDx77
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.10.29 00:56:00 -
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Is this a reportable offense? Valid tactic? I'm in a match and these two guys :
Crashy Mc Boom-bewn And Crimson Hawkss
Both in corp: the united socialist liberation front
They are killing same team members over and over, reviving them, & camping spawn links, ruining the match Killed me 8 times, 4 a piece so I couldn't kick them
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Everything Dies
LIFE IS KILLING ME
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Posted - 2014.10.29 01:05:00 -
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This is, indeed, part of the game and supposedly part of the "charm" of the EVE universe. Are you not charmed?
If so, take a number and get in line.
Mike Patton is the greatest singer in music. Proof
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hfderrtgvcd
1024
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Posted - 2014.10.29 01:10:00 -
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if you don't want to get team killed, don't play factional warfare. Why does nobody understand this?
You can't fight in here! This is the war room.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
13903
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Posted - 2014.10.29 01:12:00 -
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Everything Dies wrote:This is, indeed, part of the game and supposedly part of the "charm" of the EVE universe. Are you not charmed?
If so, take a number and get in line.
It would not be such and issue if there were ways to actually self regulate a Militia group such as Wardeccing and a means to attack the assets of or engage directly your Wardecced opponent, etc.
"We were commanded to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocents caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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Mikel Arias
Challengers 506
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Posted - 2014.10.29 01:13:00 -
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There is a punishment for that, not good enough if you ask me. I dont remember how it works, but after a certain amount of damage dealt to their own team that kind of player cant get into FW for a day or something like that. A good punishment would involved isk retribution, but I guess thats too much to ask. |
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
13903
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Posted - 2014.10.29 01:23:00 -
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Mikel Arias wrote:There is a punishment for that, not good enough if you ask me. I dont remember how it works, but after a certain amount of damage dealt to their own team that kind of player cant get into FW for a day or something like that. A good punishment would involved isk retribution, but I guess thats too much to ask.
Not ISK retribution...... something else certainly though.
Perhaps in future iterations AWOXing players become labeled as War Targets by both sides and are high lighted and freely able to be engaged by you and your allies.
As well as a lock out from vehicles, CRU, Supply Depots, etc.
"We were commanded to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocents caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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DDx77
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2014.10.29 01:24:00 -
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hfderrtgvcd wrote:if you don't want to get team killed, don't play factional warfare. Why does nobody understand this?
Cuz I didn't get the memo? And I was hoping to fight the other team? And how the hell is anybody supposed to know who's a ***** for the other corp? ...and aside from the other team winning what's the benefit? They send you isk and you get banned from factional for a day?
I was very charmed by this tactic today.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
13903
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Posted - 2014.10.29 01:26:00 -
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DDx77 wrote:hfderrtgvcd wrote:if you don't want to get team killed, don't play factional warfare. Why does nobody understand this?
Cuz I didn't get the memo? And I was hoping to fight the other team? And how the hell is anybody supposed to know who's a ***** for the other corp? ...and aside from the other team winning what's the benefit? They send you isk and you get banned from factional for a day? I was very charmed by this tactic today.
Just how it is. I've seen sabotage like this work wonders against us in FW as these guys were very careful not to inflict over 4000 points of damage, or kill too many people (just the right number at the right places) all the while calling out our locations to the other team.
"We were commanded to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocents caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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Operative 1125 Lokaas
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
540
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Posted - 2014.10.29 01:27:00 -
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Everything Dies wrote:This is, indeed, part of the game and supposedly part of the "charm" of the EVE universe. Are you not charmed?
If so, take a number and get in line.
No, actually watch and see the game die.
THIS IS THE VOICE OF RÁN
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Operative 1125 Lokaas
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
541
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Posted - 2014.10.29 01:30:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Mikel Arias wrote:There is a punishment for that, not good enough if you ask me. I dont remember how it works, but after a certain amount of damage dealt to their own team that kind of player cant get into FW for a day or something like that. A good punishment would involved isk retribution, but I guess thats too much to ask. Not ISK retribution...... something else certainly though. Perhaps in future iterations AWOXing players become labeled as War Targets by both sides and are high lighted and freely able to be engaged by you and your allies. As well as a lock out from vehicles, CRU, Supply Depots, etc.
Yes, because in FW it has no place. You don't choose your team. Only in PC can it rightfully be called meta gaming because you can choose who gets in. When FW was first introduced in EVE it was being abused until changes were made. That isn't meta gaming, that is down right ruining the game by being a cheap nuisance. It is can flipping and nothing more.
THIS IS THE VOICE OF RÁN
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
1312
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Posted - 2014.10.29 01:35:00 -
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DDx77 wrote:Is this a reportable offense? Valid tactic? I'm in a match and these two guys :
Crashy Mc Boom-bewn And Crimson Hawkss
Both in corp: the united socialist liberation front
They are killing same team members over and over, reviving them, & camping spawn links, ruining the match Killed me 8 times, 4 a piece so I couldn't kick them
This ^^^^ is part of the reason that I don't do factional , well that and Caldari suck donkey balls but I hate when that happens .
It does ruin the match and if the do it continually , they get away with the actual number of times done and like you said , it's like you cant report it because your report is not for the actual number of times it was done so they can continue to do it .
I wish it was something that CCP could do about that but it just seems like it's a sad mechanic of that mode .
I stay away for the most part .
They fix that crap and I would play factional again , I don't care about TKing all and all but that's a manipulation of the games mechanics .
Maybe that's the way CCP likes it ???
It makes it not worth while to me .
Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
1312
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Posted - 2014.10.29 01:44:00 -
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Perhaps in future iterations AWOXing players become labeled as War Targets by both sides and are high lighted and freely able to be engaged by you and your allies.
As well as a lock out from vehicles, CRU, Supply Depots .[/quote] That would be cool , they could only spawn from the enemies CRU's and they could target them for fair game if they choose .
That would kick @$$ .
Both sides would win and it would stop that crap from happening unless they would coordinate with the enemy as extra men and for me that would be fine , I get put into matches with like 9 v.s 12 or 15 sometimes anyway so it wouldn't bother me one bit .
Would help me to feel even better shoving my foot up their @$$es .
Thank you Rattati , the DEV crew and the CPM for getting the job of 1.9 done .
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DDx77
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2014.10.29 01:45:00 -
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Just how it is. I've seen sabotage like this work wonders against us in FW as these guys were very careful not to inflict over 4000 points of damage, or kill too many people (just the right number at the right places) all the while calling out our locations to the other team.[/quote]
I'm okay with it being it's own thing, but there has hot to be a way of kicking them once they are found out. I mean to me it looked like two guys who wanted to be DB's and ruin a match.
There should be a saboteur flag or button for squad leaders so they can kick them.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
13906
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Posted - 2014.10.29 02:04:00 -
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Operative 1125 Lokaas wrote:True Adamance wrote:Mikel Arias wrote:There is a punishment for that, not good enough if you ask me. I dont remember how it works, but after a certain amount of damage dealt to their own team that kind of player cant get into FW for a day or something like that. A good punishment would involved isk retribution, but I guess thats too much to ask. Not ISK retribution...... something else certainly though. Perhaps in future iterations AWOXing players become labeled as War Targets by both sides and are high lighted and freely able to be engaged by you and your allies. As well as a lock out from vehicles, CRU, Supply Depots, etc. Yes, because in FW it has no place. You don't choose your team. Only in PC can it rightfully be called meta gaming because you can choose who gets in. When FW was first introduced in EVE it was being abused until changes were made. That isn't meta gaming, that is down right ruining the game by being a cheap nuisance. It is can flipping and nothing more.
Well in FW..... I kind of do choose my team however occasionally we cannot field a full 16 players or agree to split up as required. It's times like those we tend to get hit by AWOXers if ever and even then its something we can simply tough out.
"We were commanded to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocents caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
13909
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Posted - 2014.10.29 02:09:00 -
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DDx77 wrote: Just how it is. I've seen sabotage like this work wonders against us in FW as these guys were very careful not to inflict over 4000 points of damage, or kill too many people (just the right number at the right places) all the while calling out our locations to the other team.
I'm okay with it being it's own thing, but there has hot to be a way of kicking them once they are found out. I mean to me it looked like two guys who wanted to be DB's and ruin a match.
There should be a saboteur flag or button for squad leaders so they can kick them. [/quote]
I certainly would be nice to have maybe a series of statuses for FW.
Militia Ally - Represented by Purple (every allied players has this as a default status)
Suspect- Represented by a flashing yellow indicator (has engaged in aggressive activity recently/ team killed either purposefully or accidentally the affected player may now engage their killer freely.)
WT- Represented by Orange (every enemy player assigned to the enemy militia has this as a default status)
Criminal- Represented by the a flashing Red Indicator (enemy has continued to engage in criminal activity and is now everyone's enemy)
"We were commanded to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocents caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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Sylwester Dziewiecki
Interregnum.
407
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Posted - 2014.10.29 02:11:00 -
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DDx77 wrote:Is this a reportable offense? Valid tactic? I'm in a match and these two guys :
Crashy Mc Boom-bewn And Crimson Hawkss
Both in corp: the united socialist liberation front
They are killing same team members over and over, reviving them, & camping spawn links, ruining the match Killed me 8 times, 4 a piece so I couldn't kick them
1.9 gone fix this(they will not be able to revive you untill you will request it... so you will be able to punish them, and IF punishment mechanic works they will be kicked after 'some' number of kills)
Beside that is not AWOXing, when someone is exploiting broke game mechanics..
Gallente Speed Scout.
EVE side of me: Nosum Hseebnrido
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Operative 1125 Lokaas
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
557
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Posted - 2014.10.29 20:18:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:DDx77 wrote:Quote: Just how it is. I've seen sabotage like this work wonders against us in FW as these guys were very careful not to inflict over 4000 points of damage, or kill too many people (just the right number at the right places) all the while calling out our locations to the other team.
I'm okay with it being it's own thing, but there has hot to be a way of kicking them once they are found out. I mean to me it looked like two guys who wanted to be DB's and ruin a match. There should be a saboteur flag or button for squad leaders so they can kick them. I certainly would be nice to have maybe a series of statuses for FW. Militia Ally - Represented by Purple (every allied players has this as a default status) Suspect- Represented by a flashing yellow indicator (has engaged in aggressive activity recently/ team killed either purposefully or accidentally the affected player may now engage their killer freely.) WT- Represented by Orange (every enemy player assigned to the enemy militia has this as a default status) Criminal- Represented by the a flashing Red Indicator (enemy has continued to engage in criminal activity and is now everyone's enemy)
A big fat white flashing skull like in EVE.
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