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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
7077
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Posted - 2014.10.27 21:09:00 -
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I've read the patches, looked at the starmap, played a few rounds etc etc, but that doesn't compare to the info the players have.
So tell me, what's happening? It's been about 2 months for me.
My observations so far below.
It seems like Outer.Heaven is gone from PC (Possibly because of that internal struggle with Catdoge and Fusion?), although I've seen Radar and Musturd on lately. Are you guys coming back? How many original members are still playing? (People like Moody, Musturd, Radar, etc.)
Wow Sidearms. That bolt pistol is a pocket sniper rifle now. Ion Pistol seems like it's in a fantastic place now. ADV Flaylock is worth running finally, Core has more PG but is viable on anti-shield builds (AR fits mostly).
ADS seems like garbage now. Anyone care to tell me otherwise? They seem to have no real presence anymore because 1-2 Swarms make you stay at a 200m+ distance and only go in when you have afterburner up, limiting engagement window to around 10 seconds to try and get anything done. Skills seem to have no effect, since the ROF buff from the skills is almost negligible.
Swarms are possibly just as good at anti-vehicle as forge guns now. I ran a squad with 2 swarmers, and we basically scared away any vehicles from even coming close. Can't imagine what Proto Min-Mando swarms would be like.
Combat Rifles have a definite problem dealing with shields now. I'm completely fine with this. Makes my Min Assault think twice about engaging Cal Assaults, especially without a sidearm that deals shield damage (Hence why I am loving that Ion Pistol).
Burst HMG is no longer terrifying. Deadly, but not to the point of stupidly powerful.
Once again, HOLY HELL BOLT PISTOL. That thing is crazy.
People have gotten a lot better at seeing cloaked scouts. Knew it would happen eventually.
Sadly, MU seems to have smaller effect on people who play in spates. The stomp is real. I shouldn't come back and go 26-4 in a skirmish (Although that ACR / Ion Pistol Min Scout is amazing at taking lightly defended objectives.)
Assaults are SLIGHTLY more prevalent. People still love their Heavy / Scout suits. I honestly think a respec is necessary down the line with all these changes. I think some people are still using those suits because it's what they skilled into and it's a chore to skill into something else again.
Have I missed anything? Are my observations wrong because I've only played around 5 matches and haven't gotten a good feel for what's really up?
Is PC mechanics still the same? Same PC Meta? It's been a long time.
Bullet Hell and Duct-Tape? Count me in!
FA recruits get free officer BPO's. Enlist today. Must be a scrub to enter.
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Pushing Charlie
Elite Intergalactic Mercenaries
331
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Posted - 2014.10.27 21:12:00 -
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Yes
Knight Soiaire
I BELIEVE!
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XxVEXESxX
34
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Posted - 2014.10.27 21:15:00 -
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Changes inbound. Most of this will migrate to new flame.
PSN: XxVEXESxX
Minmatar loyalist
MK.0 A/C/L
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
7077
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Posted - 2014.10.27 21:19:00 -
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Pushing Charlie wrote:Yes
Helpful as always.
Good to see you again buddy 
Bullet Hell and Duct-Tape? Count me in!
FA recruits get free officer BPO's. Enlist today. Must be a scrub to enter.
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
5064
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Posted - 2014.10.27 21:24:00 -
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o7
What you said sums things up nicely.
With RE: to Mu, it has never behaved as I thought it would. Just the other day, i was on a team of randoms against 2 highly organized squads (one G.L.O.R.Y., another transport something or other). Both squads were playing with PC tactics, against a team of randoms. It just seemed wrong on lots of levels.
Changes will be inbound shortly. A small balancing hotfix tomorrow, as well as Dev Blog on 1.9, and then 1.9 next week.
So, BP issues may be gone by tomorrow, as well as other rifle changes, and all suits will have some kind of native reps.
AND NEXT WEEK THE SPRINT GLITCH WILL BE GONE FOR GOOD!!!!!!
Couldn't be more excited for that.
You can always tell a Millford Minja
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Lloyd Orfay
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
114
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Posted - 2014.10.27 21:46:00 -
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ADS was ruining this game, so it's good that they're garbage. They can also still be used.
The sidearm change needs to be reverted. Simple as that. Does it make sense at all for a sidearm to kill a person tanking a bit over 800 ehp in 3 seconds or 1-2 shots? No.
The other variants of the flaylock is overpowered.
Swarms can be exploitable at proto though now, My MLT tank almost got killed by two lock ons... Two lock ons.
Proto minmando swarms will be like shoving a null cannon in your MCC I bet. It's going to be crazy like illegal fireworks.
Combat Rifles though could shed maybe 5% less on the damage profile They have a bit too much trouble with shooting through shields (But when you're a min assault who cares your clips are big enough to be used as swords
Burst HMG is no longer terrifying. Deadly, but not to the point of stupidly powerful.
Yeah bolt pistol is too powerful.
Scouts are really ruining this game and making the game less fun.
Scouts should be scouting and not stomping
I had an idea to remove basic suit skills because it takes way too long to get new suits.
Assults are like portable heavies now. I wouldn't change them but give them special capabilities they share with heavies.
I found out that I had thought of an idea before (like heavies being able to see explosives and equipment on the ground better than anyone else and assaults having the same effect)
I think PC is the same.
Not much has changed.
People that can't achieve greatness without exploitation don't deserve to exist. Enroll in scout erradication today.
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hfderrtgvcd
1009
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Posted - 2014.10.27 22:05:00 -
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PC meta has shifted to heavy spam. 1.9 dev blog coming tomorrow.
You can't fight in here! This is the war room.
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Forlorn Destrier
Havok Dynasty
2834
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Posted - 2014.10.27 22:06:00 -
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Stuff.
And bacon.
I am the Forgotten Warhorse, the Lord of Lightning
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
18503
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Posted - 2014.10.27 22:23:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote: Ask Arkena how that is working for him as well.
One day I'll get away.
One day.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
GM Scotsman is my hero.
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
5069
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Posted - 2014.10.27 22:28:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:One Eyed King wrote: Ask Arkena how that is working for him as well. One day I'll get away. One day.
Lol.
You mean when Legion comes out?
No more Sprint Glitch? This party is going to be off the hook!
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
7078
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Posted - 2014.10.27 22:29:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:
Edit: So much for your official retirement. Ask Arkena how that is working for him as well.
You never really leave. It's hard to, since this game still has SO MUCH POTENTIAL.
And it's slowly being realized. Very slowly, but slowly nonetheless.
So, it's less of retirement, and more of "This isn't my primary game anymore"
Bullet Hell and Duct-Tape? Count me in!
FA recruits get free officer BPO's. Enlist today. Must be a scrub to enter.
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LUGMOS
YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE
707
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Posted - 2014.10.27 22:30:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:One Eyed King wrote: Ask Arkena how that is working for him as well. One day I'll get away. One day.
PLC and Flaylol is a legit combo now, too much fun
Quafe
A question doesn't always have an answer, but a problem does,
So what is DUST? A problem or a question?
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Benjamin Ciscko
Fatal Absolution
3412
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Posted - 2014.10.27 22:31:00 -
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In my opinion assaults need a HP debuff not insane but slight in favor of bonuses to RoF and/or damage modules this is because they should fill the assaulting role the role of the tanky stand and deliver suit belongs to the sentinel. The Assaults need this DPS to infiltrate objectives in order to not have a redundant role I would give the Commandos a range bonus to fulfill the role of suppression.
IMHO Combat Rifles are fine this is coming from someone who uses them 85% of the time
PC meta is currently heavy spam
And the most interesting thing that's happened to me is getting a KTB hate video and while it is amusing DUST should provide something interesting which I hope they do in 1.9
Tanker/Logi/Assault
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
7078
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Posted - 2014.10.27 22:33:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote:In my opinion assaults need a HP debuff not insane but slight in favor of bonuses to RoF and/or damage modules this is because they should fill the assaulting role the role of the tanky stand and deliver suit belongs to the sentinel. The Assaults need this DPS to infiltrate objectives in order to not have a redundant role I would give the Commandos a range bonus to fulfill the role of suppression.
IMHO Combat Rifles are fine this is coming from someone who uses them 85% of the time
PC meta is currently heavy spam
And the most interesting thing that's happened to me is getting a KTB hate video and while it is amusing DUST should provide something interesting which I hope they do in 1.9
Join the club Ciscko.
Me, Patrick and You have our own videos now. I got mine for claiming that he was an idiot for how he was using the shotgun.
He ADS'd a shotgun at 30m and was mad it wasn't getting kills.
ADS'ing a shotgun. 
Bullet Hell and Duct-Tape? Count me in!
FA recruits get free officer BPO's. Enlist today. Must be a scrub to enter.
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Benjamin Ciscko
Fatal Absolution
3412
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Posted - 2014.10.27 22:43:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Benjamin Ciscko wrote:In my opinion assaults need a HP debuff not insane but slight in favor of bonuses to RoF and/or damage modules this is because they should fill the assaulting role the role of the tanky stand and deliver suit belongs to the sentinel. The Assaults need this DPS to infiltrate objectives in order to not have a redundant role I would give the Commandos a range bonus to fulfill the role of suppression.
IMHO Combat Rifles are fine this is coming from someone who uses them 85% of the time
PC meta is currently heavy spam
And the most interesting thing that's happened to me is getting a KTB hate video and while it is amusing DUST should provide something interesting which I hope they do in 1.9 Join the club Ciscko. Me, Patrick and You have our own videos now. I got mine for claiming that he was an idiot for how he was using the shotgun. He ADS'd a shotgun at 30m and was mad it wasn't getting kills. ADS'ing a shotgun.
I got mine for strafing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsycpXXmgtY The only time lag was present in the entire video was when he killed me I got that Bullshit where I freeze for a second or two and then the game resumes which generally kills me so if anything lag helped him. It was cute of him to cut out the final score that showed I had a higher K/D and all the parts where I kill him.
Tanker/Logi/Assault
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