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JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game RUST415 363	Posted - 2014.10.25 23:17:00 - [1] - Quote Could we get a buff to CPU pg atleast to the numbers of the gunlogi gunlogis have more defence agains av since there armor based there faster deal more damage with thee races weapons (railguns missiles) The only thing we have over them is close range confrontations Caldari Loyalist I speak for the rabbits
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens Capital Punishment. 2106	Posted - 2014.10.25 23:27:00 - [2] - Quote They are pretty close overall in my opinion. Armor: Missiles (Swarms, Turrets) Forge Railgun Explosives (AV grenades and Remotes/Proximity) Shield: Plasma Cannon Blasters Flux Grenades While I do dislike the fact that the Sica and Gunnlogi have a MUCH better ratio of CPU:PG, I don't think the two tank types are as bad off as people like to say or believe. There is also massive irony in your post and your signature. ^_^ "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game RUST415 363	Posted - 2014.10.25 23:39:00 - [3] - Quote Joseph Ridgeson wrote: They are pretty close overall in my opinion. Armor: Missiles (Swarms, Turrets) Forge Railgun Explosives (AV grenades and Remotes/Proximity) Shield: Plasma Cannon Blasters Flux Grenades While I do dislike the fact that the Sica and Gunnlogi have a MUCH better ratio of CPU:PG, I don't think the two tank types are as bad off as people like to say or believe. There is also massive irony in your post and your signature. ^_^ Let's keep this to ourselves the state needs not to know about this Caldari Loyalist I speak for the rabbits
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game RUST415 363	Posted - 2014.10.25 23:42:00 - [4] - Quote But those weapons besides blaster are unconventional or much less convienient than sl and fg Caldari Loyalist I speak for the rabbits
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 13838	Posted - 2014.10.25 23:43:00 - [5] - Quote JARREL THOMAS wrote: Could we get a buff to CPU pg atleast to the numbers of the gunlogi gunlogis have more defence agains av since there armor based there faster deal more damage with thee races weapons (railguns missiles) The only thing we have over them is close range confrontations While I'm very aware of the fitting disparities between the Madrugar and the Gunlogi its not as simple as just buffing the PG or CPU. Moreover the Madrugar has one advantage that the Gunlogi does not and that is a single 1200 point, regenerating shield Buffer. "We were commanded to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocents caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
Lloyd Orfay Commando Perkone Caldari State 98	Posted - 2014.10.25 23:43:00 - [6] - Quote JARREL THOMAS wrote: Could we get a buff to CPU pg atleast to the numbers of the gunlogi gunlogis have more defence agains av since there armor based there faster deal more damage with thee races weapons (railguns missiles) The only thing we have over them is close range confrontations So you want to get a buff to your super tanking vehicles only so it could be more unreasonably powerful? Outrageous. The movement speed on tanks really should be reverted at least by slightly more than half, though. Proto players are the epitome of "havng your cake after you ate it" which is why most will never develop real skill
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 13838	Posted - 2014.10.25 23:45:00 - [7] - Quote Joseph Ridgeson wrote: There is also massive irony in your post and your signature. ^_^ Do you suggest this because he is claiming to be state loyalist while preaching about a buff to gallentean tech, while inferring in his signature that he speaks for the rabbits, a symbol typically associated with the Guristas pirate faction who are a convoluted mix of both Gallente and Caldari stuff. "We were commanded to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocents caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1407	Posted - 2014.10.26 03:53:00 - [8] - Quote yea tank hulls are very roughly competitive, but fitting wise they are from different worlds. Maddies have ton of spare PG but are always lacking in CPU. Gunnlogis can easily dual tank(!) and on top of that on their secondary layer (low) can be utilised by fitting mods. the fitting challenge is way different (actually non-existent on another) People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change
Joel II X Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 4079	Posted - 2014.10.26 03:55:00 - [9] - Quote 2-3 shots from my Plasma Cannons destroy Gunnlogi shields, and not on a Commando suit.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 2228	Posted - 2014.10.26 04:09:00 - [10] - Quote JARREL THOMAS wrote: Could we get a buff to CPU pg atleast to the numbers of the gunlogi gunlogis have more defence agains av since there armor based there faster deal more damage with thee races weapons (railguns missiles) The only thing we have over them is close range confrontations Um... could you repeat that, only in proper English this time? I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 2228	Posted - 2014.10.26 04:11:00 - [11] - Quote Joel II X wrote: 2-3 shots from my Plasma Cannons destroy Gunnlogi shields, and not on a Commando suit. You must be talking about people driving Sicas that look to see what's hitting them before they react to anything. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game RUST415 364	Posted - 2014.10.26 04:55:00 - [12] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Joseph Ridgeson wrote: There is also massive irony in your post and your signature. ^_^ Do you suggest this because he is claiming to be state loyalist while preaching about a buff to gallentean tech, while inferring in his signature that he speaks for the rabbits, a symbol typically associated with the Guristas pirate faction who are a convoluted mix of both Gallente and Caldari stuff. There catching on begins to run Caldari Loyalist I speak for the rabbits
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game RUST415 364	Posted - 2014.10.26 04:58:00 - [13] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: JARREL THOMAS wrote: Could we get a buff to CPU pg atleast to the numbers of the gunlogi gunlogis have more defence agains av since there armor based there faster deal more damage with thee races weapons (railguns missiles) The only thing we have over them is close range confrontations Um... could you repeat that, only in proper English this time? I'm using an iPhone so please shhh Caldari Loyalist I speak for the rabbits
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 2230	Posted - 2014.10.26 05:02:00 - [14] - Quote JARREL THOMAS wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: JARREL THOMAS wrote: Could we get a buff to CPU pg atleast to the numbers of the gunlogi gunlogis have more defence agains av since there armor based there faster deal more damage with thee races weapons (railguns missiles) The only thing we have over them is close range confrontations Um... could you repeat that, only in proper English this time? I'm using an iPhone so please shhh I don't butcher grammar that bad when I'm using my tablet. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game RUST415 364	Posted - 2014.10.26 05:05:00 - [15] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: JARREL THOMAS wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: JARREL THOMAS wrote: Could we get a buff to CPU pg atleast to the numbers of the gunlogi gunlogis have more defence agains av since there armor based there faster deal more damage with thee races weapons (railguns missiles) The only thing we have over them is close range confrontations Um... could you repeat that, only in proper English this time? I'm using an iPhone so please shhh I don't butcher grammar that bad when I'm using my tablet. iPad bigger screen than this crap iPhone 4 Caldari Loyalist I speak for the rabbits
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1371	Posted - 2014.10.26 06:32:00 - [16] - Quote JARREL THOMAS wrote: Could we get a buff to CPU pg atleast to the numbers of the gunlogi gunlogis have more defence agains av since there armor based there faster deal more damage with thee races weapons (railguns missiles) The only thing we have over them is close range confrontations no buffs AT ALL.. if you want, why not wait till they re introduce advanced vehicles [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Vulpes Dolosus Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2350	Posted - 2014.10.26 07:02:00 - [17] - Quote Maybe once heavy shield boosters a) get a PG reduction by almost half (seriously, they're double what plates are) and b) actually work when you need them. Dust is there! I was real! Dear diary, Rattati senpai noticed me today~
Henrietta Unknown Nox Lupos 413	Posted - 2014.10.26 07:30:00 - [18] - Quote I can fit all complex modules (save nitro) and a cmplx turret on a Soma, but add one more module to a Madrugar, and I've reduced most of my modules to enhanced and the turret to basic. The CPU/PG difference between Soma and Maddy is so small it's laughable. Was there an overlooked nerf some time back? Give the Magsex some love.
Lorhak Gannarsein Legio DXIV 4171	Posted - 2014.10.26 09:08:00 - [19] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Joseph Ridgeson wrote: There is also massive irony in your post and your signature. ^_^ Do you suggest this because he is claiming to be state loyalist while preaching about a buff to gallentean tech, while inferring in his signature that he speaks for the rabbits, a symbol typically associated with the Guristas pirate faction who are a convoluted mix of both Gallente and Caldari stuff. holy run-on sentence, True!! wtf! CCP Rattati ily! AmLogi 5 GÇó AmAss 5 GÇó AmSent 4 GÇó CalScout 5 GÇó CalLogi 5 now what?
Mejt0 Puff n Puffers 475	Posted - 2014.10.26 11:20:00 - [20] - Quote Maddy (only with keyboard) > infiantry Gunlogi (with keyboard) > Other vehicles When you drive maddy you can still feel, that it's still somehow better versus infiantry and AV (over time, not few at once) Gunlogi is just super tank once you have modules turned on. Also 90/110 rail profile coupled with dmg mods make armor vehicles almost usless. Ps. It's annoying that maddy have to choose betweewn few (3-4) vaiable fits only. Only worth fitting are reps,hardeners and nitro (or dmg mod like before all these changes) Caldari Loyalist Markiplier fan. Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game RUST415 1383	Posted - 2014.10.26 13:06:00 - [21] - Quote Good ole' forum... The issue with Madrugars being AV can get you at range - Rail/Missile HAV - Forge Guns / Swarm Launchers Where the Gunnlogis weaknesses are - Fluxes/Blasters/Plasma Cannons All of which need to be used in CQC Vs enemy vehicles... @ Spkr seen as you are a 'Tanker' that acts like they have an opinion maybe add one rather than dropping in on a thread to dispute a 15yr olds grammar usage, you scrub - I won't act like I have a fix, but there is clear issues between the two vehicles Innapropriate Irrelevence...
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game RUST415 366	Posted - 2014.10.26 15:16:00 - [22] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: JARREL THOMAS wrote: Could we get a buff to CPU pg atleast to the numbers of the gunlogi gunlogis have more defence agains av since there armor based there faster deal more damage with thee races weapons (railguns missiles) The only thing we have over them is close range confrontations no buffs AT ALL.. if you want, why not wait till they re introduce advanced vehicles I don believe that's going to be happening soon Caldari Loyalist I speak for the rabbits
Henrietta Unknown Nox Lupos 413	Posted - 2014.10.26 15:20:00 - [23] - Quote Oh wait. Missiles > Maddies. Just another reason why I shouldn't be running maddy. Give the Magsex some love.
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens Capital Punishment. 2117	Posted - 2014.10.26 15:22:00 - [24] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: Good ole' forum... The issue with Madrugars being AV can get you at range - Rail/Missile HAV - Forge Guns / Swarm Launchers Where the Gunnlogis weaknesses are - Fluxes/Blasters/Plasma Cannons All of which need to be used in CQC Vs enemy vehicles... (snip) - I won't act like I have a fix, but there is clear issues between the two vehicles I don't know. I have driven a tank for about 16 months (that is not me going authority argument, just that I am familiar with them). The only time my Madrugar has felt flat out weaker than Gunnlogi rather than Pros and Cons was when Hardeners were nerfed and everyone and their brother was using a Glass Cannon Sica/Gunnlogi with Armor Modules. I generally run Plate-Hardener-Repairer and before the nerf I was capable of holding out the burst of a Glass Cannon. Afterwards, getting the first shot was generally not enough. But that was more a problem with Damage mods. I have been driving a Gunnlogi recently and I don't see it being too much better. In a Tank v Tank fight, the Gunnlogi that turns the Hardener on and gets into a toe to toe fight is likely to win over the Madrugar. The difference is that the Gunnlogi doesn't have what True mentioned; that shield buffer. Pop a Railgun into a Madrugar before they turn on Hardener, no big deal. You did shield damage. Do that to a Gunnlogi and they are losing a huge amount of EHP. My fights versus Gunnlogis that are not Redline Pansies is generally get the drop (I try that for everyone obviously) but if they blow their Hardener, run away for a few second and re-engage during that time frame when my Hardener is still running and theirs is down. It does suck that on the Gunnlogi I can go 2 Complex Extenders, 1 Complex Hardener, Advanced L Turret, and an Advanced Small Turret ridiculously easy compared to my Madrugar that cannot go anywhere near that Meta heavy. I think it is currently Advanced Turret, Advanced Plate, Complex Hardener, Advanced Repairer, Booster with no side gunner and that is CRAMPED. I have very high skills for Turret Optimization and the Madrugar still has the main breaker pop when someone turns the lights and run the toaster. But still, it does not feel really weaker at least when solo. I have stopped using my Madrugar when I am playing with my gunner because of the fitting advantage but one on one I don't feel worse off overall. Have their been scenarios where it was "damn, if I were in my Gunnlogi I would have gotten away"? Yes, but there have also been ones where it went the other way. If there are balance problems, which there might be and I will change my tune of "I dunno but it seems alright", I don't think they are enough that too much would have to be done. Of course, I am like 5 CPU off of running like 6 different fits for my Madrugar... "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game RUST415 366	Posted - 2014.10.26 15:23:00 - [25] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: Good ole' forum... The issue with Madrugars being AV can get you at range - Rail/Missile HAV - Forge Guns / Swarm Launchers Where the Gunnlogis weaknesses are - Fluxes/Blasters/Plasma Cannons All of which need to be used in CQC Vs enemy vehicles... @ Spkr seen as you are a 'Tanker' that acts like they have an opinion maybe add one rather than dropping in on a thread to dispute a 15yr olds grammar usage, you scrub - I won't act like I have a fix, but there is clear issues between the two vehicles TheD1ck HAS SPOKEN ( / ^.^)/ Caldari Loyalist I speak for the rabbits
MEDICO RITARDATO Dead Man's Game RUST415 313	Posted - 2014.10.26 15:24:00 - [26] - Quote JARREL THOMAS wrote: TheScrub wrote: Good ole' forum... The issue with Madrugars being AV can get you at range - Rail/Missile HAV - Forge Guns / Swarm Launchers Where the Gunnlogis weaknesses are - Fluxes/Blasters/Plasma Cannons All of which need to be used in CQC Vs enemy vehicles... @ Spkr seen as you are a 'Tanker' that acts like they have an opinion maybe add one rather than dropping in on a thread to dispute a 15yr olds grammar usage, you scrub - I won't act like I have a fix, but there is clear issues between the two vehicles TheScrub HAS SPOKEN ( / ^.^)/ Fixed CCP why do you hate shield?
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game RUST415 1384	Posted - 2014.10.26 15:31:00 - [27] - Quote SCRUBICO RITARDSCRUB wrote: I am a sissy girl PUB stomper and LHughes keeps me locked in a basement Fixed Innapropriate Irrelevence...
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game RUST415 367	Posted - 2014.10.26 15:44:00 - [28] - Quote Why did CCP do this in the first place. A simple change to pg/cpu would be great because there's really no reason for the gap in fitting space Caldari Loyalist I speak for the rabbits
Foehammerr OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 92	Posted - 2014.10.27 03:33:00 - [29] - Quote Well something people seem to forget is that there used to be more than the Gunnlogis and Madrugars. The reason why fitting higher end mods and turrets is hard is because it's like fitting a prototype rifles and mods on a standard suit. Enforcers were the advanced variants and Marauders were prototype. *Rangers Lead The Way!* Beta Vet since 2/5/2013
Henrietta Unknown Nox Lupos 415	Posted - 2014.10.27 03:50:00 - [30] - Quote Well, the Devs did a pretty good job leaving two tiers of hulls an incomplete game feature, as well as not changing the CPU/PG requirements of the turrets to accommodate for Standard hulls, the highest vehicles in tier currently. Give the Magsex some love.

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