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FIRSTNAME- lastname
Direct Action Resources
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Posted - 2014.10.24 03:34:00 -
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How many of us would be positively affected I think they should... I wonder how duna would do. I also wonder how everyone that runs advanced and basic do. I think they should make it happen
C15-A Sniper Rifle... Im Coming for you!
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postapo wastelander
Wasteland Desert Rangers
297
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Posted - 2014.10.24 03:36:00 -
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FIRSTNAME- lastname wrote:How many of us would be positively affected I think they should... I wonder how duna would do. I also wonder how everyone that runs advanced and basic do. I think they should make it happen
Honestly matee boyo i dont care too much, i can kill protos and if not its still just a game 
"Ultimate Pirmatar, Logi extraordinaire and fabulous Tinker since 2012"
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Boot Booter
Second-Nature
992
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Posted - 2014.10.24 03:36:00 -
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Most likely anyone who is kicking ass in proto will continue in adv gear. Squads are OP not gear.
What happened to the repair tool glow?
Why won't CCP answer?
Conspiracy?
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Ivy Zalinto
Second-Nature
381
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Posted - 2014.10.24 03:42:00 -
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90% of my fits use a basic level suit...only thing proto on my fits are kincats and the occasional dampener. But usually the kincats.
Sure toss the suits, mods and weapons out for a day. Id like to see what happens honestly.
Dedicated Stealth Scout.
Pay attention to your surroundings or your getting 2 in the back of the head.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
17489
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Posted - 2014.10.24 03:55:00 -
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and watch nothing change.
CPM 1
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior
\\= Prototype Forge Gun=// Unlocked
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Mike Ox Bigger
Extremely Wicked
298
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Posted - 2014.10.24 03:56:00 -
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*Sigh*
Another one of these posts? |
postapo wastelander
Wasteland Desert Rangers
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Posted - 2014.10.24 03:57:00 -
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Mike Ox Bigger wrote:*Sigh*
Another one of these posts?
still better than "respec" ones boyo 
"Ultimate Pirmatar, Logi extraordinaire and fabulous Tinker since 2012"
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
13816
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Posted - 2014.10.24 04:03:00 -
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FIRSTNAME- lastname wrote:How many of us would be positively affected I think they should... I wonder how duna would do. I also wonder how everyone that runs advanced and basic do. I think they should make it happen
Haha in a perfect "**** You" moment I would almost completely be unaffected.
Gunlogi is a standard hull. Neutron Blaster against less EHP suits = same killing power, lesser EHP against weaker AV = same exchange.
Make's my job THAT much easier.
"We were commanded to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocents caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Nox Lupos
2155
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Posted - 2014.10.24 04:35:00 -
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But im a kawaii pyjama wearing scout..... IM ADORABLE DAMMIT!!!
PSN Sil4ntChaozz
Scout Devottee, Mk.0/Gk.0, Avid Nova Knifer, Prof V RE Thrower
No point if no fun. Prof V Masochist
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THUNDERGROOVE
Fatal Absolution
1133
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Posted - 2014.10.24 04:37:00 -
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FIRSTNAME- lastname wrote:How many of us would be positively affected I think they should... I wonder how duna would do. I also wonder how everyone that runs advanced and basic do. I think they should make it happen
What else am I supposed to do with my ISK?
Amarrica!
It's Not Safe to Swim.
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Buwaro Draemon
WarRavens
Capital Punishment.
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Posted - 2014.10.24 04:57:00 -
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THUNDERGROOVE wrote:FIRSTNAME- lastname wrote:How many of us would be positively affected I think they should... I wonder how duna would do. I also wonder how everyone that runs advanced and basic do. I think they should make it happen What else am I supposed to do with my ISK?
Give them to me? 
Been here since Mordus Private Trials
Closed Beta Vet under 30 million SP ;-;
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
1336
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Posted - 2014.10.24 05:02:00 -
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problem. protostompers in pub contracts?
solution. impove FW and kick those proto stomping scrubs out of pub matches
[[LogiBro ADV/PRO]]
[[Level 1 Forum Warrior]]
[[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
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THUNDERGROOVE
Fatal Absolution
1135
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Posted - 2014.10.24 05:08:00 -
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Buwaro Draemon wrote:Give them to me?
I'm happy yoloing proto suits into hordes of people, thanks!
Amarrica!
It's Not Safe to Swim.
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Foehammerr
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
90
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Posted - 2014.10.24 05:51:00 -
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I've gone 30-40 kills and less than 7 deaths regularly this week using basic sentinels and HMGS. Barring the use of high level gear will not really affect how bad you'll get wallopped. There's a saying in EVE:
Billions of ISK can't buy you PvP skills.
Being this good can neither be taught nor bought. It can only be earned through experience.
Rangers Lead The Way!
Beta Vet since 2/5/2013
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Fizzer XCIV
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.10.24 05:56:00 -
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In run nothing but standard suits(Quafe) and weapons nowadays anyways. I simply don't have the SP anymore to use more than that, since I biomassed (no ragrets). But I still end up carrying my team . I don't even have the core skills to min max my suits...
3,000,000 SP Woooo!
Skill>>>>>>>>Gear
Someone that is doing exceptional in Protogear will still do very well in Basic.
Swag-suit4lyfe!
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Crimson ShieId
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
1132
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Posted - 2014.10.24 06:30:00 -
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Tanks murder everything, organized squads still dominate, and the only thing that changes is the regen rate on a few suits.
You'd need to knock everything down to militia to notice a difference. Any less than that and you'll just be dominated by pink suits of fabulosity rather than the black and red suits of the proto variety~
Nova Knives are best sidearm.
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Izlare Lenix
Vengeance Unbound
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.10.24 08:04:00 -
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This is a stupid idea but I am in favor of a militia gear only game mode.
Gun control is not about guns...it's about control.
The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
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hold that
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
295
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Posted - 2014.10.24 09:49:00 -
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"I choose not to run proto for the challenge" ~ proceeds to get the lowest wp next to week 1 nubs |
jonny battles
Vengeance Unbound
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.10.24 11:41:00 -
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It don't matter what suit or anything they use people who skilled into it not armor fully still get additional to that just like pro 5 in any weapon will still eat through you
It was just that easy
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Nirwanda Vaughns
852
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Posted - 2014.10.24 11:47:00 -
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Proto is just making players soft  knew a guy who was a great player. joined a large corp, ran proto 24/7 he got booted and he can't survive in his STD/ADV gear now.
i've suggested numerous times having an option to select what security space pub matches take place in and limiting gear used to the sec systems
1.0 - MLT only, No vehicles at all
0.5-0.9 - STD and below
0.1-0.4 - ADV and below
0.0 - PRO and below
and some have said that a 60m sp player will still have an advantage over a new player, even so. a 60m sp guy in a MLT suit has a max shield/armor he can hit which is a lot less than if he was running full proto
Example
'Skinweave' Minmatar Medium Frame (max shield/armour and fitting skills) with MLT fittings (1 shield extended 2 x armor plates)
Shield - 235
Armour 362
'Skinweave' Minmatar Medium Frame (base stats with no skills applied) with MLT fittings (1 shield extender, 2 x armour plates)
Shield - 193
Armour - 310
that means with a fully maxed shield/armour guy vs brand new noob there is a hitpoint difference of...
Shield - 42
Armour - 52
Now with my general proto Gallente Assault Gk.0 run n gun suit i have
Shield - 194
Armour - 883 (with 11hps regen)
which is a hp difference of
Shield - 1
Arouur - 573
now don't forget on top of that i have 3 complex damage mods, a creo breach AR and the passive armour regens making it a near impossible to kill suit if a new player with zero skills came up againjst it. whereas if we're all in the same gear the 60m sp vets have an advantage but its a very small one, just over 100ehp meaning the newberry has a much better chance of actually killing them if they're a skilled FPS gamer
Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience
proud C-II bpo owner
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Coleman Gray
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
1244
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Posted - 2014.10.24 12:50:00 -
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He just wouldn't play lol
Original Commando, before all you posers just saying
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Mahal Daj
Mahal Tactical Enterprises
84
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Posted - 2014.10.24 13:23:00 -
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Consider this...
If you lose 12 basic suits and kill 1 prototype (based on isk-trade off) you've still won in the end. Consider re-prioritizing your definition of success, and you'll find that you may be more successful than you realized.
See my Post on Crashes: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2413361#post2413361
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NextDark Knight
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
508
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Posted - 2014.10.24 13:32:00 -
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Game mode with only mililta gear!
God damn this was shown in our game previews when are we getting it in game!
Over 50 Million SP and almost full proto in all Caldari Suits. No matter how hard CCP tries Dust just won't die on PS3/4
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postapo wastelander
Wasteland Desert Rangers
317
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Posted - 2014.10.24 13:33:00 -
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2OP>
Its easy.
I know everyone like to win "that every match", but isnt better take to consider it just game and sometime you basicaly can lose.
For every good player there is another better.
It easy, sometime you can win
You still can have great time with friends, i mean you still have ISK and SPs for battle then why to be toxic about how this is OP and that is OP.
Hell its even game what have in its LORE that CLONE suggestion.
What basicaly meant nobody can lose by its Philosophy
"Ultimate Pirmatar, Logi extraordinaire and fabulous Tinker since 2012"
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Buwaro Draemon
WarRavens
Capital Punishment.
409
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Posted - 2014.10.24 15:17:00 -
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THUNDERGROOVE wrote:Buwaro Draemon wrote:Give them to me? I'm happy yoloing proto suits into hordes of people, thanks!
Been here since Mordus Private Trials
Closed Beta Vet under 30 million SP ;-;
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
3916
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Posted - 2014.10.24 17:08:00 -
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Proto gets banned for a week. I still run freefits and kill people. Proto skills > Proto gear.
EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
262
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Posted - 2014.10.24 17:14:00 -
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Wouldn't effect me
no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave
When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
262
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Posted - 2014.10.24 17:15:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Proto gets banned for a week. I still run freefits and kill people. Proto skills > Proto gear.
Exactly
Everyone who has ever been vaporized by my lr can tell ya gear doesn't mean ****
no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave
When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
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Cyzad4
Blackfish Corp.
409
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Posted - 2014.10.24 18:13:00 -
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Would be an interesting experiment but I don't really think it would make a huge difference.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair.
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Hansei Kaizen
The Jackson Five
256
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Posted - 2014.10.24 18:26:00 -
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Would make a HUGE difference. Noobs would actually have some hint of a chance. They would stick around and dust would be a successful game. Vets would still be better, but not as much as now.
The answer to your complaint is PvE. Always.
NPE status: (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
Casual solo
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