I'd also like the damage/range curve to be a little less harsh, myself. Maybe an extra 5m on the optimal. Otherwise it's in a pretty good place now.

It's obviously a niche weapon that you always need to mind your engagement range when using, unlike the scrubs best friend RR.

(tbh that's actually my main complaint with it: the beam is just so loud and visible, it's like shouting "hey I'm over here!" constantly... Unlike the RR which was designed by ninjas with invisible f*cking bullets and is completely silent from more than 30m away)

Cherish the hatemail.

I was fairly certain the optimal was 65-105m, and it falls off very after that.

Outside of that -- the damage is NOT based on heat as a lot of y'all have stated. It is based on time fired.

Now the above is just my opinion -- but in my experience the following happens.

I shoot at and melt a target. I am at 85% heat when he dies.

I stop shooting switch targets and start firing. I am at 60% heat or so when I start shooting. I am doing the same damage I did when I was at 0% heat.

So it feels to me that constant firing increases damage - but that stopping firing for even a second resets the damage despite heat.

A major reason I am the godfather of tactical logisticsGäó(lol) is that I definitely do not have the raw gungame of a Mortedeamor or Viktor. As such I personally find I need the Amarr assault bonus to really do well with it. It's also not a great choice for the two roles I generally find myself in: tight frontline support or lonewolf infiltrator logi.
(Attracts too much attention when you are all alone and is not flexible enough to be a great complement to following around the big boys in close quarters.)

When I feel like burning heretics I grab my assault suit. I do have one fit still with an LR on my Amarr logi, but I use it less and less for various reasons, the biggest one is probably that the more I got used to the assault bonus the more I tended to overheat in the logi suit as my internal timer is set to the assault.

I understand the weapon and can explain it's use pretty well (I am in large part an educator by trade IRL) but sadly that does not directly translate into being a killing machine. If I remember correctly, Morte uses an Amarr logi a fair amount of the time and seems to do pretty well. If you have solid gungame I'd say it is a very viable fit. Wouldn't recommend it for any of the non-sidearm logi suits, of course.

You do appear to have asterisk prof 5, lol.

Anyway, I am actually planning on trying out the AScR again once the "balance" hotfix comes through, sounds like it's going to be pretty awesome - it was always underrated, imo, and with even less dispersion than before and back to the old heat buildup it's going to be a nice precision weapon. I used it a ton before 1.7.

In the meantime, though, you kinda talked yourself through what I've done, actually. I used the MD for a long time (particularly when everything else had broken hit detection) and it does work great on the Amarr logi suit, no question. (I don't particularly like the assault variant, the low splash damage kills it for me.)

But, since, as you pointed out, PG is the killer of the Amarr suit, I use an ACR (used to use the STD CR but since it got nerfed I like the ACR better now) since it uses almost no PG at all. So, while it does get me some snide comments in the PIE channel sometimes, the absurdly low fitting costs are just too good to pass up.

NOOO leave my ******* lr alone this thread is completely irrelevant lr is bloody well fine get good