DUST Search - Lets look at Pilot suits....

Vulpes Dolosus wrote:

Literally just posted this on another thread:

"Role Bonus: Can fit Vehicle Link Mods. 2% efficacy and -2% fitting to Vehicle Link Mods (mods that go on the dropsuits that buff vehicle performance. Lore-wise it can say they enhance the mental capabilities of the pilot, increase the clone's resilience to vehicle stresses, and improve neural connection between pilot and vehicle).

Amarr: +Armor hp and resistance
Cal: +Shield hp and resistance
Gal: +Armor repair amount and maneuverability
Min: +Shield repair and acceleration

There each has bonuses to a specific racial tank and divides them into more defensive and offensive specialties. Perhaps those second bonuses could be tinkered with, but it's an idea. I am pretty set on the first ones, though.

And of course, vehicles and vehicle mods should receive buffs/nerfs in line with these suits to keep them balanced. There should be a noticeable difference between a pilot suit and a non-pilot suit in a vehicle."

As far as weapons and equipment go, side arm(s?) only (no bonus, it should be vehicles only), iffy on the grenade slot, 2 equipment slots (for tactical links, repair tool, hives for setting up teammatesGÇª), and very low highs and lows (total should be like 2/3/4) and should only be used for those "vehicle link mods" I mentioned above, since you should be encouraged to stay in your vehicle.


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DARU Prime Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2014.10.23 06:22:00 - [1] - Quote Well, honestly, we can't as they do not exist. However... what if... pilot suits were close to, but not as good as, the scout (pg/cpu and ehp wise) Sidearm only ( give a bonus to sidearms ) Grenade slot ( who doesn't like boom boom?!? ) Equipment slot ( x1 ) High/Low slots ( similar to scout, maybe 1 less ) Bonuses to movement speed to vehicles, turret speeds. Bonuses to armor and shield mods efficiencies.
DARU Prime Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2014.10.23 06:35:00 - [2] - Quote Vulpes Dolosus wrote: Literally just posted this on another thread: "Role Bonus: Can fit Vehicle Link Mods. 2% efficacy and -2% fitting to Vehicle Link Mods (mods that go on the dropsuits that buff vehicle performance. Lore-wise it can say they enhance the mental capabilities of the pilot, increase the clone's resilience to vehicle stresses, and improve neural connection between pilot and vehicle). Amarr: +Armor hp and resistance Cal: +Shield hp and resistance Gal: +Armor repair amount and maneuverability Min: +Shield repair and acceleration There each has bonuses to a specific racial tank and divides them into more defensive and offensive specialties. Perhaps those second bonuses could be tinkered with, but it's an idea. I am pretty set on the first ones, though. And of course, vehicles and vehicle mods should receive buffs/nerfs in line with these suits to keep them balanced. There should be a noticeable difference between a pilot suit and a non-pilot suit in a vehicle." As far as weapons and equipment go, side arm(s?) only (no bonus, it should be vehicles only), iffy on the grenade slot, 2 equipment slots (for tactical links, repair tool, hives for setting up teammatesGÇª), and very low highs and lows (total should be like 2/3/4) and should only be used for those "vehicle link mods" I mentioned above, since you should be encouraged to stay in your vehicle. I was writing this thread and I saw that you had posted something lol I like what you have said. The bonuses being a neurological aspect is an amazing idea (lore). Now if we could get a reply from CCP Ratatti. Come on lil buddy!!!
DARU Prime Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2014.10.23 07:03:00 - [3] - Quote I'm not sure why people get bent out of shape when somebody asks for the pilot suits.
DARU Prime Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2014.10.23 09:02:00 - [4] - Quote Someone get a hold of CCP Rattati!!
DARU Prime Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 12	Posted - 2014.10.27 11:30:00 - [5] - Quote @ Joseph Ridgeson The pilot suit was supposed to be part of the game. I'm not sure why they decided to pull out of the idea. The option to buy these two are in game. However, when you click on Highland food in the market place it says nothing is available. The medium brain breaks down into two branches being logistics and assault. The heavy frames break down into commando or Sentinel. The light frame goes into scout and... nothing. Every type of basic frame breaks down into two branches other than the light frame. I see absolutely nothing wrong with adding a drop suit that helps pilots. People talk about how it would be nothing but an SP sink. Instead of being negative and giving me a hundred scenarios as to why it would not work, why not come up with something that makes it work? Why does it always have to be met with resistance?
DARU Prime Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 12	Posted - 2014.10.27 11:39:00 - [6] - Quote DARU Prime wrote: Well, honestly, we can't as they do not exist. However... what if... pilot suits were close to, but not as good as, the scout (pg/cpu and ehp wise) Sidearm only ( give a bonus to sidearms ) Grenade slot ( who doesn't like boom boom?!? ) Equipment slot ( x1 ) High/Low slots ( similar to scout, maybe 1 less ) Bonuses to movement speed to vehicles, turret speeds. Bonuses to armor and shield mods efficiencies. The reason I say side arm only is for the idea that it's hard to carry around a forge cannon when you are strapped into a pilot seat of any kind. Reason I said give a bonus to the side arm is because that is what the pilot would be trained in more efficiently in my opinion. It doesn't have to be a huge bonus but maybe like a 5% bonus to damage and reload speed Grenade slot? Well that answers itself. Equipment slot could be for a rep tool or drop link up some kind. Why not make it to that way you could have the drop uplink and the rep tool? It wouldn't do much good for a pilot to carry around a nano hive or a ninite injector. Make the high and low slots one less than the Scout because without the vehicle the pilot suit should be damn near worthless. Give each suit a slight bonus based upon their racial abilities, as far as effecting modules equipped.to a vehicle. Make it like 2% per level. Increased movement speed by 1 to 2 percent per level. As I have said before and I will say it again, I will never use a pilot suit. I don't skill in two vehicles either. But again I see nothing wrong with having the ability to get a damn suit to help out.
DARU Prime Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 21	Posted - 2014.11.03 01:26:00 - [7] - Quote @ Joseph Ridgeson I wasn't just referring to this thread when I said the idea is met with a lot of resistance. Read the other threads involving the pilot suits. People get very upset over balance issues. I have read that the pilot suit suit is an unfair advantage for vehicle users. In fact, the pilot suit will do the opposite. I think it would add a level of balance and give the AV guys a lil bit more of a challenge.
DARU Prime Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 21	Posted - 2014.11.03 01:52:00 - [8] - Quote Joseph Ridgeson seems to be one of the biggest anti-pilot suits person. Almost every pilot suit thread I have read, he is there saying why it wouldn't work or how it would unbalance the game. So, ignore the scrub... Anyway... Lost Apollo, True Adamance and Pokey Dravon, continue on. You guys are on to something here.
DARU Prime Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 26	Posted - 2014.11.03 12:27:00 - [9] - Quote It would appear to me that most of us seem to be in agreeance. Using the pilot suits slots to fit link modules in definitely takes away from their combat viability, outside of their vehicles.. Sure they have a side arm and a grenade slot but what's that going to do when you only have 200 eHP? I think if we are going to give bonuses to link modules then they need to be based on the races themselves. I also like the link module PG/CPU reduction per level BUT I think if you want the prototype bonuses then you need to be wearing the prototype pilot suit. This would also solve the issue of people putting their skill up to 5 and just running a standard suit. Besides that, wearing the prototype suit means you can fit more link mods. I would probably go with the most basic grenade, above militia, and the same for the side arm. For me, if I were to ever used it, it would be more about stacking the link mods.
DARU Prime Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 26	Posted - 2014.11.04 03:24:00 - [10] - Quote I know cross is watching it and for that I'm very thankful. It would be nice to hear some input though. This thread has gotten quite a few views but only a few people are replying. Is it one of those situations where the people are waiting for somebody to say something?

DARU Prime Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 26	Posted - 2014.11.04 04:27:00 - [11] - Quote What do you think of raciak bonuses True?
DARU Prime Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 26	Posted - 2014.11.04 04:31:00 - [12] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: /thread Where did you get that picture?!?
DARU Prime Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 26	Posted - 2014.11.04 04:59:00 - [13] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: /thread Got a warning from CCP. do not click the link!!!!
DARU Prime Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 27	Posted - 2014.11.04 06:12:00 - [14] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: DARU Prime wrote: Hakyou Brutor wrote: /thread Got a warning from CCP. do not click the link!!!! lol wot m8 When I clicked on the link a warning page from CCP came up saying something about spammers and keyloggers. I went ahead and clicked on it and that picture was from some time ago? If that is true then why was the idea pulled? If this is true then it also tells me that they already know how to build a pilot suit. I think it just needs a little bit of modification, to make it more viable and a vehicle as opposed to being viable on the field. I believe that a pilot should be able to defend himself when out of his vehicle but not very well at all. Still lovin the link module idea!!!
DARU Prime Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 27	Posted - 2014.11.04 10:31:00 - [15] - Quote Lost Apollo wrote: Ok... here I go again lol. Pilot Suit Bonus Proposal (based somewhat one the picture) Keep the Pilot suit close to thr Scout suit. Read the thing I posted about the Minmatar Basic Light Frame vs the Scout vs possible Pilot suit. Take away the grenade slot and 1 of the equipment slots (if there were 2). All pilot suits - 10% to active vehicle module CD/level (max 50%) Minmatar - 5% to efficiency of vehicle weapon damage modules (max 25%) Caldari - 2% to vehicle shield extender (or recharge, not both) modules per level (max 10%) Amarr - 2% to efficiency of vehicle armor plating modules per level (max 10%) Gallente - 2% to efficiency of armor repair modules per level (max 10%) These bonuses do not seem OP (may need to do somthing different with Minmatar). This is my idea based off that picture. if it seems to much, please give another suggestion. Simply saying that it will not work is not a good argument. This kind of plays off of the "bonus to link mods" idea. Whichever the Caldari gets, be it extenders or rechargers, give the Minmatar the opposite. At the 2%/level, of course. I don't remember which race has the better shield extenders/rechargers. Do that, it looks fair to me.
DARU Prime Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 31	Posted - 2014.11.04 10:40:00 - [16] - Quote Thanks Cross. Sorry for our whining lol.