DUST Search - Looks like the EVE players are excited that Dust is getting 1.9 Link...

CELESTA AUNGM wrote:

The replies here were funny! Thanks all!

I also have the same suspicions about the "PersCompu-versus-Consoler gamer" disdain among the players of EVE related games. There is a barrier of prejudice between us,... that I kinda naively hoped the Dust-to-EVE interaction link would be the first game of its kine to help erase. (....you're a very foolish clone, Celesta, believing in fairy tales).

But I do believe EVE players WERE very excited about Dust being successful in the beginning. From what I understand about EVE-Online, the players fight for ownership of systems, yet have almost zero contact with the surface of a planet (there's a Planetary Interaction mechanic in their game---but apparently it's WAY complicated to operate, and only lets you list a "colony" on a planet, not actually lets you see or walk on the planet's surface), so the concept of "owning" a planet must be torture for EVE players.

So I'm sure they WANTED footmen that could march and own planets for them, just as much as we Consolers enjoy BEING footmen who have real shootouts on planets.

I think they have mostly lost any remaining expectation that Dust will finally develop and join them. They'd be happy if Legion OR Dust actually succeeds and makes the link, don't get me wrong. They're just not holding their breath waiting for us anymore, that's all. They have mostly considered us the wannabe's who lost.

Cry

I know,... that sounded like a depressing thing for me to say. Let's see what next year holds for this game.

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JIMvc2 The Wanga Empire Strikes Back 260	Posted - 2014.10.22 19:11:00 - [1] - Quote Here is the link to it.Click Here I agree that the Racial HAV, LAV, and Dropship should be implemented in Dust 514. This way once they are released then with the Hotfixes that CCP Rattati and with the feed of US ( The community) it can make it much more balanced. For example, If Legion were to be released then with all of those Hotfixes that were put into Dust 514, they can be put into Legion. This way the Lunch of Legion won't be as bad and if its turns out good = Good for CCP, good for Dust 514, and Good for the reviewers. With the hotfixes that Dust 514 is receiving, this can save many hours to the Legion Team. I enjoy Dust more than how it was a year ago. - Minmatar, and Amarr Vehicles are left to be introduced. - The Drones. <--- Very serious about this. - Gallente and Amarr Heavy weapons. - Not sure if they should add Caldari, Minmatar, and Amar Shotguns. <-- What is your opinion on that ? - The pilot dropsuits would be nice. - Contact Grenades which I guess its going to be like the Impact Grenade from Battlefield 4. Not sure but maybe. - The RDV's and the MCC's <--- It wouldn't change the game alot but it would make FW and PC much more interesting. Lastly, - Bring back Corp battles. <--- This one is the one that needs to be brought back ASAP. MAG Raven vet 7 times. Favorite weapon F90 and Highest Kills 78 and 23 deaths.
JIMvc2 The Wanga Empire Strikes Back 260	Posted - 2014.10.22 19:13:00 - [2] - Quote Here is the picture of how the Minmatar and Amarr vehicles might look like. Hopefully it gets in the game.Oh yea MAG Raven vet 7 times. Favorite weapon F90 and Highest Kills 78 and 23 deaths.
THE-PIMP-NAMED-SLICKBACK Direct Action Resources 224	Posted - 2014.10.22 19:22:00 - [3] - Quote The pimp demands drones. Planetside 2 Eventually Eh
RayRay James Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 564	Posted - 2014.10.22 19:31:00 - [4] - Quote Do people ever bother to use the search feature to see if there's already a conversation going on about a subject? My guess is no.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 13738	Posted - 2014.10.22 19:38:00 - [5] - Quote JIMvc2 wrote: Here is the link to it.Click Here I agree that the Racial HAV, LAV, and Dropship should be implemented in Dust 514. This way once they are released then with the Hotfixes that CCP Rattati and with the feed of US ( The community) it can make it much more balanced. For example, If Legion were to be released then with all of those Hotfixes that were put into Dust 514, they can be put into Legion. This way the Lunch of Legion won't be as bad and if its turns out good = Good for CCP, good for Dust 514, and Good for the reviewers. With the hotfixes that Dust 514 is receiving, this can save many hours to the Legion Team. I enjoy Dust more than how it was a year ago. - Minmatar, and Amarr Vehicles are left to be introduced. - The Drones. <--- Very serious about this. - Gallente and Amarr Heavy weapons. - Not sure if they should add Caldari, Minmatar, and Amar Shotguns. <-- What is your opinion on that ? - The pilot dropsuits would be nice. - Contact Grenades which I guess its going to be like the Impact Grenade from Battlefield 4. Not sure but maybe. - The RDV's and the MCC's <--- It wouldn't change the game alot but it would make FW and PC much more interesting. Lastly, - Bring back Corp battles. <--- This one is the one that needs to be brought back ASAP. Well one of them I assume is the EVE alt of Fox Gaden or one of the other Immortal Guides tutors, one doesn't care, and one mentioned it was "nice". That's hardly excited. "We were commanded to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocents caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 4037	Posted - 2014.10.22 19:42:00 - [6] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Well one of them I assume is the EVE alt of Fox Gaden or one of the other Immortal Guides tutors, one doesn't care, and one mentioned it was "nice". That's hardly excited. I'm as excited about Dust 1.9 and the remote possibility of 1.10 as the next guy... but this ^ Eve Online players are only barely aware Dust 514 is still a thing. If anything, they are waiting to hear an announcement for it to become Legion or that Legion was cancelled. That is the extent of their "excitement". My advice to you, playa...
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 17460	Posted - 2014.10.22 19:43:00 - [7] - Quote *whistle for attention Hey down here; set your expectations to realistic. If things happen they happen; CPM and community can always ask for things but CCP knows itself best on what they can and cannot accomplish for the patches. Not saying to stop dreaming but I caution hyping anything until its on blog format at least. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Forge Gun=// Unlocked
BlazeXYZ G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 294	Posted - 2014.10.22 20:00:00 - [8] - Quote JIMvc2 wrote: Here is the picture of how the Minmatar and Amarr vehicles might look like. Hopefully it gets in the game.Oh yea They did mention racial knives and weapon customization. The Blazing Intellect Machine
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 4937	Posted - 2014.10.22 20:04:00 - [9] - Quote Also, if you look at the Dust section of the EVE forums, you will see how dead it is. Basically just a few people that actually play both games. By and large, especially from the reaction I saw on EVE forums after FF, they greatly dislike us. We are console players and are beneath a majority of them. This is the only reason for me to want to play Legion. Because they are excited for it, and I am going to knife me some Mother F*cking EVE players. They are going to have to respect us the HARD way. You can always tell a Millford Minja
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 13739	Posted - 2014.10.22 20:20:00 - [10] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: whistle for attention Hey down here; set your expectations to realistic. If things happen they happen; CPM and community can always ask for things but CCP knows itself best on what they can and cannot accomplish for the patches. Not saying to stop dreaming but I caution hyping anything until its on blog format at least. Realistic is removing something from the game that shouldn't be there. e.g- fixing the glitch in the Orbital Artillery Outpost where pressing start causes your vehicle to explode....... Asking for something that should have been in the game 12 months ago. e.g- Racial Parity for Vehicles.... Way outside of the stadium. "We were commanded to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocents caught in our fires"* -Kador Ouryon

Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Gentlemen's.Club 5568	Posted - 2014.10.22 20:21:00 - [11] - Quote more like dust players with eve accounts are excited about 1.9 EVE 21 Day Trial Templar BPOs 350Mil ISK
CELESTA AUNGM Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 301	Posted - 2014.10.22 20:37:00 - [12] - Quote The replies here were funny! Thanks all! I also have the same suspicions about the "PersCompu-versus-Consoler gamer" disdain among the players of EVE related games. There is a barrier of prejudice between us,... that I kinda naively hoped the Dust-to-EVE interaction link would be the first game of its kine to help erase. (....you're a very foolish clone, Celesta, believing in fairy tales). But I do believe EVE players WERE very excited about Dust being successful in the beginning. From what I understand about EVE-Online, the players fight for ownership of systems, yet have almost zero contact with the surface of a planet (there's a Planetary Interaction mechanic in their game---but apparently it's WAY complicated to operate, and only lets you list a "colony" on a planet, not actually lets you see or walk on the planet's surface), so the concept of "owning" a planet must be torture for EVE players. So I'm sure they WANTED footmen that could march and own planets for them, just as much as we Consolers enjoy BEING footmen who have real shootouts on planets. I think they have mostly lost any remaining expectation that Dust will finally develop and join them. They'd be happy if Legion OR Dust actually succeeds and makes the link, don't get me wrong. They're just not holding their breath waiting for us anymore, that's all. They have mostly considered us the wannabe's who lost. I know,... that sound bad for me to say. Let's see what next year holds for this game. Universe of good wishes for the 49, especially CCP Eterne... No story can have life without writers and publishers.
General Mosquito Kinsho Swords Caldari State 14	Posted - 2014.10.22 20:44:00 - [13] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: *whistle for attention Hey down here; set your expectations to realistic. If things happen they happen; CPM and community can always ask for things but CCP knows itself best on what they can and cannot accomplish for the patches. Not saying to stop dreaming but I caution hyping anything until its on blog format at least. Best post ever by IWS. General Butt Naked - Biomassed The Attorney General - Biomassed when unbanned Only 9 more alts to go.
Operative 1125 Lokaas True Companion Planetary Requisitions 519	Posted - 2014.10.22 23:35:00 - [14] - Quote JIMvc2 wrote: Here is the link to it.Click Here I agree that the Racial HAV, LAV, and Dropship should be implemented in Dust 514. This way once they are released then with the Hotfixes that CCP Rattati and with the feed of US ( The community) it can make it much more balanced. For example, If Legion were to be released then with all of those Hotfixes that were put into Dust 514, they can be put into Legion. This way the Lunch of Legion won't be as bad and if its turns out good = Good for CCP, good for Dust 514, and Good for the reviewers. With the hotfixes that Dust 514 is receiving, this can save many hours to the Legion Team. I enjoy Dust more than how it was a year ago. - Minmatar, and Amarr Vehicles are left to be introduced. - The Drones. <--- Very serious about this. - Gallente and Amarr Heavy weapons. - Not sure if they should add Caldari, Minmatar, and Amar Shotguns. <-- What is your opinion on that ? - The pilot dropsuits would be nice. - Contact Grenades which I guess its going to be like the Impact Grenade from Battlefield 4. Not sure but maybe. - The RDV's and the MCC's <--- It wouldn't change the game alot but it would make FW and PC much more interesting. Lastly, - Bring back Corp battles. <--- This one is the one that needs to be brought back ASAP. I'd just like to see vehicle, turret and weapon parity if for no other reason than to have what would be considered a basically complete game and one that CCP certainly marketed. Let's have some semblance of completion before alegion gets going. A half baked product dumped before another try really doesn't look good for CCP. It isn't good for marketing nor reputation. CCP really needs to polish that tarnished image before kicking it into high gear with Valkyrie or Legion. Also, why does everything have to be racially equal? The shotgun is Gallente (or is it Min) so the racial equivalent of that sort of weapon would be a better solution. Shotgun denotes a certain, slug based weapon. The mass driver is Min right? That would be the Min equivalent of that sort of big blast alpha damage weapon so let's have a different sort of weapon for the others. Maybe it'd be like a shotgun but not called a shotgun. THIS IS THE VOICE OF RÁN
Operative 1125 Lokaas True Companion Planetary Requisitions 519	Posted - 2014.10.22 23:46:00 - [15] - Quote CELESTA AUNGM wrote: The replies here were funny! Thanks all! I also have the same suspicions about the "PersCompu-versus-Consoler gamer" disdain among the players of EVE related games. There is a barrier of prejudice between us,... that I kinda naively hoped the Dust-to-EVE interaction link would be the first game of its kine to help erase. (....you're a very foolish clone, Celesta, believing in fairy tales). But I do believe EVE players WERE very excited about Dust being successful in the beginning. From what I understand about EVE-Online, the players fight for ownership of systems, yet have almost zero contact with the surface of a planet (there's a Planetary Interaction mechanic in their game---but apparently it's WAY complicated to operate, and only lets you list a "colony" on a planet, not actually lets you see or walk on the planet's surface), so the concept of "owning" a planet must be torture for EVE players. So I'm sure they WANTED footmen that could march and own planets for them, just as much as we Consolers enjoy BEING footmen who have real shootouts on planets. I think they have mostly lost any remaining expectation that Dust will finally develop and join them. They'd be happy if Legion OR Dust actually succeeds and makes the link, don't get me wrong. They're just not holding their breath waiting for us anymore, that's all. They have mostly considered us the wannabe's who lost. I know,... that sounded like a depressing thing for me to say. Let's see what next year holds for this game. Eve players did not care overall for DUST. It became worse when it moved to console. Before that some players expressed a curiosity about it and since it was going to be on the PC were interested in piddling with it. The console crowd is all about fast twitch and looked down upon by the likes of Eve's slow twitch, thinking man's game style playerbase. Once it got switched to console it became a laughing stock. Nobody was going to buy a console, especially if they had a different brand console already to play DUST. The FPS aspect was anathema enough, but to shell out money for what was now to become a dyed in the wool console game? Nope. Even the people who expressed interest lost it when the playstation development was announced. Hell, even I only just bought a console last year only so my kids could play Skylanders. I wasn't even going to get a PS3 if it wasn't a good choice otherwise. I did want the excuse to try out DUST, but I wouldn't do it just for DUST. Lol, I started playing DUST one month before it was officially released and that was exactly the wrong time to have bought into the whole thing. The Fanfest screw made it worse. Glad I didn't buy a PS3 just for DUST. I hope Legion happens and is a welcome do over. THIS IS THE VOICE OF RÁN
yadder god C0NTRA UNIT 0	Posted - 2014.10.23 00:53:00 - [16] - Quote I am toooooooo excited for those dropship! I love those designs hope they keep it.
X7 lion Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 373	Posted - 2014.10.23 02:26:00 - [17] - Quote Can i just point out that legion is proably being coded from scratch since dust is running on the ps3's cell chip, yes they can learn from dust but at a code level the work is separate. Do not contribute to malice what can be explained by ignorance. being contradictory is not the same as being offensive.
Auris Lionesse Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 1035	Posted - 2014.10.23 02:32:00 - [18] - Quote this thread has more replies than that thread and probably has 1/200th of the player base. eve doesnt care about dust beyond the potential it had 5 years ago when it was a revolutionary concept. its so far gone that it doesnt even represent the name Don't vote for iron wolf saber. Vote for someone who will help the community i.e. anyone else.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9855	Posted - 2014.10.23 05:29:00 - [19] - Quote I have to agree with some of the people there in Eve Online that CCP should use Dust as a means of optimizing any content that will later be meant for Legion. The logic here is that if something like a facility or socket were to be stable and have decent frame rates with no memory leaks while still looking great in a game like Dust 514 on the PS3, then that content is more than ready to be ported over to Legion because Legion will be on a more powerful and flexible platform. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9855	Posted - 2014.10.23 05:31:00 - [20] - Quote Auris Lionesse wrote: this thread has more replies than that thread and probably has 1/200th of the player base. eve doesnt care about dust beyond the potential it had 5 years ago when it was a revolutionary concept. its so far gone that it doesnt even represent the name Not true. I'm also an Eve Online player -- actually, I originated from Eve -- and I still have hope for Dust and Legion. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.

Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9855	Posted - 2014.10.23 05:33:00 - [21] - Quote X7 lion wrote: Can i just point out that legion is proably being coded from scratch since dust is running on the ps3's cell chip, yes they can learn from dust but at a code level the work is separate. CCP announced many times that Legion will be using the same engine as Dust (Unreal Engine 3). The primary difference will be the fact that Legion will be on a more heavily modified version of Unreal Engine 3. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
gustavo acosta Second-Nature 355	Posted - 2014.10.23 05:36:00 - [22] - Quote I especially adore how the minmatar HAV looks like a chocalatey pastry will taste sparingly if able... Gallente scout, heavy, logi, and assault Eternal Can I haz ur isk?
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 2569	Posted - 2014.10.23 05:43:00 - [23] - Quote The problem with adding racial vehicles to DUST 514 is that Vehicles have been so horribly butchered with the over-simplification vehicle patch that there is almost no way to actually make two more "kinds" that would even be distinguishable from the two we already have. But that's just my opinion... No, I don't like how cookie-cutter vanilla our vehicles are right now, though I do understand that adding "Options" does add to balancing issues, but still... Diversity is dead. EDIT: To be clear though the dropsuit changes are amazingballz <3 "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
Lorhak Gannarsein Legio DXIV 4169	Posted - 2014.10.23 08:40:00 - [24] - Quote Renier Gaden is a DUST player. Search by his last name. CCP Rattati ily! AmLogi 5 GÇó AmAss 5 GÇó AmSent 4 GÇó CalScout 5 GÇó CalLogi 5 now what?
sabre prime Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 631	Posted - 2014.10.23 08:58:00 - [25] - Quote I think the minmatar should get a shotgun, but not the caldari or amarr. They can get different specialist weapons. A shotgun for the minmatar kind of makes sense. Also, we can then have shield based (gallente) and armour based (minmatar) shotguns. The slow blade penetrates the shield.
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1331	Posted - 2014.10.23 09:48:00 - [26] - Quote JIMvc2 wrote: Here is the link to it.Click Here I agree that the Racial HAV, LAV, and Dropship should be implemented in Dust 514. This way once they are released then with the Hotfixes that CCP Rattati and with the feed of US ( The community) it can make it much more balanced. For example, If Legion were to be released then with all of those Hotfixes that were put into Dust 514, they can be put into Legion. This way the Lunch of Legion won't be as bad and if its turns out good = Good for CCP, good for Dust 514, and Good for the reviewers. With the hotfixes that Dust 514 is receiving, this can save many hours to the Legion Team. I enjoy Dust more than how it was a year ago. - Minmatar, and Amarr Vehicles are left to be introduced. - The Drones. <--- Very serious about this. - Gallente and Amarr Heavy weapons. - Not sure if they should add Caldari, Minmatar, and Amar Shotguns. <-- What is your opinion on that ? - The pilot dropsuits would be nice. - Contact Grenades which I guess its going to be like the Impact Grenade from Battlefield 4. Not sure but maybe. - The RDV's and the MCC's <--- It wouldn't change the game alot but it would make FW and PC much more interesting. Lastly, - Bring back Corp battles. <--- This one is the one that needs to be brought back ASAP. tbh i think the pve content may be legion exclusive as ps3 codeing is a bore [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Stefan Stahl Seituoda Taskforce Command 799	Posted - 2014.10.23 10:27:00 - [27] - Quote Auris Lionesse wrote: this thread has more replies than that thread and probably has 1/200th of the player base. Just to clear that up, Eve online has some 500 000 subscriptions last time I heard and Dust has some 300 000 unique users monthly (as per the most recent dev blog). At least in regards to the amount of people looking at the game regularly we're not as far apart as people may think. (If you apply an industry standard conversion rate though we arrive at 500 000 paying customers for Eve online versus some 15 000 paying customers in Dust, which will likely not be paying monthly.)
Logical Logi Immortal Guides 20	Posted - 2014.10.23 13:11:00 - [28] - Quote I am Logical Logi and I approve this message. Corp battles would be wonderful for training. Director of Millitary Operations and General recruitment/training for Immortal Guides.
Luna McDuffing COALICION LATINA Top Men. 63	Posted - 2014.10.23 13:43:00 - [29] - Quote But, but but the minmatar already have their vehicles. they use their feet. That is all they can afford. Maybe one day they'll get an used bicycle.
General Mosquito Kinsho Swords Caldari State 15	Posted - 2014.10.24 15:53:00 - [30] - Quote Stefan Stahl wrote: Auris Lionesse wrote: this thread has more replies than that thread and probably has 1/200th of the player base. Just to clear that up, Eve online has some 500 000 subscriptions last time I heard and Dust has some 300 000 unique users monthly (as per the most recent dev blog). At least in regards to the amount of people looking at the game regularly we're not as far apart as people may think. (If you apply an industry standard conversion rate though we arrive at 500 000 paying customers for Eve online versus some 15 000 paying customers in Dust, which will likely not be paying monthly.) Subscriptions are not the same as players. The 300k unique users number is highly suspect as well. Are they counting each individual toon, or each PSN account? Do PSN accounts from the same IP address get lumped in as a single user or to they classify them as unique? I know of a couple of people who are actively farming toons to get the recruiter rewards on their own. Do those people get counted as 25 or 50 unique users or are they correctly tallyed as singular users? As for the eve numbers, a person with just one eve account is in the extreme minority. Most of those are more than likely very new players, or high sec bears who don't even participate in eve beyond shooting red crosses and buying plex with their ISK. Eve does not have 500,000 paying customers. Never has, likely never will. I don't even break a sweat and plex 4 accounts every month. I could probably do more, but I am saving ISK to buy a couple of super toons. General Butt Naked - Biomassed The Attorney General - Biomassed when unbanned Only 9 more alts to go.



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