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Posted - 2014.10.22 18:34:00 -
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Stay on topic please the only proposed change is making scouts side arm only. Shotguns are right now a scout thing because people don't play commandos because scouts are so op its a vicious cycle lol.
As for your AV points (it would be a small loss for the future of the game lol) it would be almost as viable on a assault or even more on a mini commando, and the benefits to the game would be huge.
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Posted - 2014.10.22 21:47:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote: When the Scout class is working as intended, then Rifles are not a good choice.- The delay between decloaking and firing which is being introduced in 1.9 is one step toward having Scouts work as intended.
Right, rifles won't be as good of a choice because the cloak delay will turn cheap one shot kills from exploitation of broken mechanics into the primary play style because it reduces the viability of others.
Fox Gaden wrote:- Armour Plate stacking should be addressed. I favour increasing movement penalties so that a Scout with the HP of an Assault, moves like an Assault. (This would apply to Plate, not Reactive Plate or Ferrosteel.)
No other issues will need to be addressed if there offence is balanced.
Fox Gaden wrote: I donGÇÖt see any reason why we would want to prevent Scouts from using Sniper Rifles, Mass Drivers, and Plasma Cannons. Preventing Scouts from using Shotguns is just stupid.
SR and AV are a small loss that promotes versatility increasing the games health.
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Posted - 2014.10.22 23:49:00 -
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With exception of maybe the sniper would you agree those are meant to be assault roles? Draconian - relating to, or characteristic of Draco or the severe code of laws held to have been framed by him. I don't understand how balancing an obviously over powered class is severe lol.
The other changes you brought up are balancing around around the assault role. Attempting to balance the game around a scout assault role instead of taking it away is what has caused the current issues and is going to create more; it is eliminating the assault and commando classes because as you stated "the light weapon is really what makes the suit worthwhile" over assault and commando suits.
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Posted - 2014.10.23 09:53:00 -
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Stay on topic please the only proposed change is making scouts side arm only.
Then what is a scout's job? Stand there ewar at things? yes, and as ivy says "The main thing I wonder about is why people think the scout cannot be an infiltrator unit. Someone meant to flank and take out high value targets." this is a scout and in no way requires light weapons to achieve. What you an many others are playing is a gamebreaking assault class which CCP is trying to balance around instead of removing because of bad input from players along with a little partisanship on part of the devs do to I assume personal investment into the balanced archetype made game breaking with cloak.
I favor sidearms only as opposed to breaking cloak in order to nerf an assault role created by cloak. The cloak is a great tool for those that play as a scout and the flow and even the de-cloak time is very important to those that play with sidearms. The cloak change will nerf assault scout it will also cement the assault scout role.
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Posted - 2014.10.24 13:37:00 -
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Mahal Daj wrote:What if we make the cloak a light weapon module?
That is some great out of the box thinking, but since sidearms require 2 to use in most cases lets alter it a bit. Lets say that the side arm only change only effects the scout suit it self leaving the light suit as is. This would remove any complaints about Anti vehicle, Sniper Rifle, and Assault loss. All of the benefits brought up earlier in the conversation would still take effect with the added benefit of giving a higher value to light suits.
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