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ARF 1049 wrote:

The people who get on here just to ***** about scouts have some side of truth but from what I am hearing, your deaths are because you are oblivious to in game sounds like a decloak or a weapon going off near you and a blueberry disappearing from the minimap.

also running Ewar on assaults and logis is possible and viable, it doesn't always pick up all scouts but the 75% it does normally loose.

And the biggest issue with strafe speed isn't the internal game mechanics but mouse and ******* keyboard. That's the root of all issues with strafe speed and various weapons.

People complain about shotguns saying they need a nerf... Do you have any clue how a shotgun works? They start dropping off at 4m, and since functionally it's more like 4 feet in this game. And the drop off is so sharp anything past 10 is completely useless. Sure it can 1 shot weaker assaults, but that's its ******* job!!! It is a high alpha ambush weapon.

People get mad because scouts rob them off a fight because we are cheap bastards who use tactics that ensure our success. It's our job. high alpha weapons are generally CQC though and closing the gap is harder than you ignorant bastards think, especially when just getting lightly crossed over by the stream of anal **** the HMG sprays out can kill us nearly instantly.

Plus from the solid year of scouts being the worst suit have breed complete and total creatures. We had to adapt to play the smartest and fit modules to the period but now we have all these new toys and are tearing people apart because CCP made us monsters, complete and totally efficient stealthy killers.

And if I could change one thing to the game it would be first and foremost removing mouse and keyboard, but in game fixe wise I would make scouts only able to run ferroscale and reactive plates. That would make them fall into there role easiest.

despite what all the nerdowell ignorant people say scouts are supposed to dominate in Ewar and speed in all aspects, they are also supposed to have quick regenerative abilities and be able to ambush and backstab the best...

Haters gonna hate but ignoring the cues that CCP has put in the game and not even trying to see scouts in Ewar or looking for the quite obvious cloak shimmer.

**** you all, and have a good night.

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ARF 1049 Vengeance Unbound 150	Posted - 2014.10.22 15:18:00 - [1] - Quote The people who get on here just to *** about scouts have some side of truth but from what I am hearing, your deaths are because you are oblivious to in game sounds like a decloak or a weapon going off near you and a blueberry disappearing from the minimap. also running Ewar on assaults and logis is possible and viable, it doesn't always pick up all scouts but the 75% it does normally loose. And the biggest issue with strafe speed isn't the internal game mechanics but mouse and *** keyboard. That's the root of all issues with strafe speed and various weapons. People complain about shotguns saying they need a nerf... Do you have any clue how a shotgun works? They start dropping off at 4m, and since functionally it's more like 4 feet in this game. And the drop off is so sharp anything past 10 is completely useless. Sure it can 1 shot weaker assaults, but that's its *** job!!! It is a high alpha ambush weapon. People get mad because scouts rob them off a fight because we are cheap bastards who use tactics that ensure our success. It's our job. high alpha weapons are generally CQC though and closing the gap is harder than you ignorant bastards think, especially when just getting lightly crossed over by the stream of anal the HMG sprays out can kill us nearly instantly. Plus from the solid year of scouts being the worst suit have breed complete and total creatures. We had to adapt to play the smartest and fit modules to the period but now we have all these new toys and are tearing people apart because CCP made us monsters, complete and totally efficient stealthy killers. And if I could change one thing to the game it would be first and foremost removing mouse and keyboard, but in game fixe wise I would make scouts only able to run ferroscale and reactive plates. That would make them fall into there role easiest. despite what all the nerdowell ignorant people say scouts are supposed to dominate in Ewar and speed in all aspects, they are also supposed to have quick regenerative abilities and be able to ambush and backstab the best... Haters gonna hate but ignoring the cues that CCP has put in the game and not even trying to see scouts in Ewar or looking for the quite obvious cloak shimmer. ** you all, and have a good night. "Ionized Plasma slugs reaching 3 billion degrees Fahrenheit at hypersonic speeds. Still worse than supersonic metal"
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1793	Posted - 2014.10.22 15:25:00 - [2] - Quote ARF 1049 wrote: And the biggest issue with strafe speed isn't the internal game mechanics but mouse and ******* keyboard. That's the root of all issues with strafe speed and various weapons. lol You've never used MKB in Dust, have you?
ARF 1049 Vengeance Unbound 150	Posted - 2014.10.22 15:26:00 - [3] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: ARF 1049 wrote: And the biggest issue with strafe speed isn't the internal game mechanics but mouse and ******* keyboard. That's the root of all issues with strafe speed and various weapons. lol You've never used MKB in Dust, have you? Oh I did I didn't like it much but I ran it when scouts sucked so... "Ionized Plasma slugs reaching 3 billion degrees Fahrenheit at hypersonic speeds. Still worse than supersonic metal"
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 2352	Posted - 2014.10.22 15:28:00 - [4] - Quote To this day, I still can't fully understand the stafe complaints with keyboard and mouse. I have two thumbs. Two thumbs plus multitasking plus controller equals same strafing. The ultimate difference between mouse/keyboard are as follows: Mouse/Keyboard: Easier to strafe, as well as fine aiming with high accuracy weaponry. Controller: Faster reaction ability when in the hands of someone that wasn't raised by slugs and is able to use both hands simultaneously. Every button you need is within a second of reach if you have to move to it, which you shouldn't if you are properly holding the controller. If you can multitask reasonably, you actually have an upper hand over keyboard/mouse in close quarters. The controller also is better for fine character movement. The keyboard/mouse can only use coarse movements, while the controller has movement ability in every direction, not just the eight that keyboard and mouse allow. I started gaming on the computer and eventually came to consoles. A controller is a bit harsh for, say, sniping, but it is vastly better for less accuracy demanding situations. The reason why I spent more time on the controller bit than the mouse and keyboard is simply because, for some awful reason, console players feel like they are vastly inferior to keyboard and mouse users when it's really... just a matter of getting good. Prof. V Plasma Cannon and Gallente Commando V. There is no regret. Only explosions.
Derpty Derp Dead Man's Game RUST415 569	Posted - 2014.10.22 15:33:00 - [5] - Quote A- You can't tell who is using a mouse and keyboard. B- Mouse and keyboard is not an issue... Or at least not a beneficial one. C- Commando >>> scout > everything else. Kasote Denzara wrote: console players feel like they are vastly inferior to keyboard and mouse users when it's really... just a matter of getting good. I sure as hell don't, lol.
Boot Booter Second-Nature 988	Posted - 2014.10.22 15:40:00 - [6] - Quote EWar is broken. Possibly scout regen is too high. What happened to the repair tool glow? Why won't CCP answer? Conspiracy?
syzygiet G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 19	Posted - 2014.10.22 15:43:00 - [7] - Quote ARF 1049 wrote: And the biggest issue with strafe speed isn't the internal game mechanics but mouse and ******* keyboard. That's the root of all issues with strafe speed and various weapons. Use a mouse and keyboard in this build and then tell me the biggest issue is the strafe speed due to mouse and keyboard. I think the biggest issue is the Aim assist, especially with close quarter weapons like Nova knives and shotguns. People who have used Nova knives pre aim assist will tell you it was a pain in the ass to hit compared to now. As Kasote the DS3 is vastly superior in CQC situation which most of the fights for scouts with shotgun are in.
Mobius Wyvern Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 5333	Posted - 2014.10.22 16:48:00 - [8] - Quote ARF 1049 wrote: The people who get on here just to *** about scouts have some side of truth but from what I am hearing, your deaths are because you are oblivious to in game sounds like a decloak or a weapon going off near you and a blueberry disappearing from the minimap. also running Ewar on assaults and logis is possible and viable, it doesn't always pick up all scouts but the 75% it does normally loose. And the biggest issue with strafe speed isn't the internal game mechanics but mouse and *** keyboard. That's the root of all issues with strafe speed and various weapons. People complain about shotguns saying they need a nerf... Do you have any clue how a shotgun works? They start dropping off at 4m, and since functionally it's more like 4 feet in this game. And the drop off is so sharp anything past 10 is completely useless. Sure it can 1 shot weaker assaults, but that's its *** job!!! It is a high alpha ambush weapon. People get mad because scouts rob them off a fight because we are cheap bastards who use tactics that ensure our success. It's our job. high alpha weapons are generally CQC though and closing the gap is harder than you ignorant bastards think, especially when just getting lightly crossed over by the stream of anal the HMG sprays out can kill us nearly instantly. Plus from the solid year of scouts being the worst suit have breed complete and total creatures. We had to adapt to play the smartest and fit modules to the period but now we have all these new toys and are tearing people apart because CCP made us monsters, complete and totally efficient stealthy killers. And if I could change one thing to the game it would be first and foremost removing mouse and keyboard, but in game fixe wise I would make scouts only able to run ferroscale and reactive plates. That would make them fall into there role easiest. despite what all the nerdowell ignorant people say scouts are supposed to dominate in Ewar and speed in all aspects, they are also supposed to have quick regenerative abilities and be able to ambush and backstab the best... Haters gonna hate but ignoring the cues that CCP has put in the game and not even trying to see scouts in Ewar or looking for the quite obvious cloak shimmer. ** you all, and have a good night. Unfortunately, you neglected to factor in that there has been a bug since back in Chromosome that makes all sounds behind you not play. There are several videos of this on YouTube that were used in bug reports. Neither the cloak sound nor footsteps are actually audibly from directly behind you at any time. The only thing you'll hear is the shotgun killing you in one hit. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 2099	Posted - 2014.10.22 18:27:00 - [9] - Quote You talk about ignorance yet you make the false assumption that KB/M gives a benefit to strafing when in fact there is negligible difference between the KB/M and Controller when strafing. I will say what I say to everyone, give both a try for yourself and them come back here. The only thing a mouse gives advantage in is turning speed. And for this they pay deeply in many other areas. (I for one thing controllers should be able to increase sensitivity to get a higher turning speed too if they want that as I want balance for all) "Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones" "Guns for show, Knives for a pro" MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1808	Posted - 2014.10.22 18:31:00 - [10] - Quote ARF 1049 wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: ARF 1049 wrote: And the biggest issue with strafe speed isn't the internal game mechanics but mouse and ******* keyboard. That's the root of all issues with strafe speed and various weapons. lol You've never used MKB in Dust, have you? Oh I did I didn't like it much but I ran it when scouts sucked so... Try it again and report back. You will find using MKB on scouts (and anything not a forge/snper/md) sucks. MKB provides a marginal advantage to turn speeds and little to no noticeable difference in strafe speeds. Lay that against not being able to circle strafe or figure 8 strafe effectively, and your inability to hit people (along with no AA) will more than overcome its strengths in virtually all scout situations. Please stop spreading incorrect information.

Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1327	Posted - 2014.10.22 18:55:00 - [11] - Quote Derpty Derp wrote: A- You can't tell who is using a mouse and keyboard. B- Mouse and keyboard is not an issue... Or at least not a beneficial one. C- Commando >>> scout > everything else. Kasote Denzara wrote: console players feel like they are vastly inferior to keyboard and mouse users when it's really... just a matter of getting good. I sure as hell don't, lol. B yes you can at least very accurately when it comes to how a player can track your character at close distance best example is HAVs when their turret is turning and tracking faster then a player can turn in the game.. that is full sensitivity+mouse [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Lloyd Orfay Commando Perkone Caldari State 85	Posted - 2014.10.22 21:24:00 - [12] - Quote Summary of post: More ignorant players with dirt level knowledge of how games work or how warfare works posting their ignorance on the forum/ Antisocial solo players trying to protect their behaviour of exploiting gameplay through broken suits so that they can keep on ruining other player's fun. End Summary. Antisocial players don't deserve their solo gameplay.
Mister Goo Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 35	Posted - 2014.10.23 02:37:00 - [13] - Quote Lloyd Orfay wrote: Summary of post: More ignorant players with dirt level knowledge of how games work or how warfare works posting their ignorance on the forum/ Antisocial solo players trying to protect their behaviour of exploiting gameplay through broken suits so that they can keep on ruining other player's fun. End Summary. Amen and +1 Closed Beta Vet Minmatar Logistics I Repair, Revive, and Replenish. Leave the slaying for Assaults and Heavies.


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