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Bax Zanith Sinfonia1898 200	Posted - 2014.10.20 22:45:00 - [1] - Quote Why I would I ever want an active scanner? I've been experimenting with protofits.com, and even at max level skills, and on a Gallente logi, doesn't look like it could be much help to me. They didn't die from the cold without They died from the cold within. - James Patrick Kinney
Daddrobit You Can Call Me Daddy 901	Posted - 2014.10.20 22:50:00 - [2] - Quote EXPLAIN TO ME! O.G. Pink Fluffy Bunny
Bahirae Serugiusu Vendetta Reactionary Force 187	Posted - 2014.10.20 22:50:00 - [3] - Quote Active scanners show you those nice pretty little uplinks so you know where the enemies are coming from. They are also useful for spotting RE and finding heavies, and mediums, and if you get a error message from it then you know a cowardly scouts around. I actually make sure to put one on all my Assault suits since they are fairly cheap on the PG/CPU cost and insanely useful.
Jebus McKing lol Proto 794	Posted - 2014.10.20 22:50:00 - [4] - Quote Proto active scanner scans: undampened MN/AM scouts Logis Assaults Sentinels Commandos That is 90% of suits. Sounds good to me. DUST514 is love // @JebusMcKing
xavier zor G.L.O.R.Y Dark Taboo 89	Posted - 2014.10.20 22:51:00 - [5] - Quote Daddrobit wrote: EXPLAIN TO ME! lol to OP: If you are in a squad....it is highly recommended as there is little that can be scanned (if it doesn't have 4 dampeners/3 with skills) scout ck.0 here!
xavier zor G.L.O.R.Y Dark Taboo 89	Posted - 2014.10.20 22:52:00 - [6] - Quote Jebus McKing wrote: Proto active scanner scans: undampened MN/AM scouts Logis Assaults Sentinels Commandos That is 90% of suits. Sounds good to me. missed caldari and gallante :P i know plenty of people who don't dampen their suits but...such as me. I put codebreakers on instead of dampeners (15% from caldari scout operation V and 15% from dampening V scout ck.0 here!
Jebus McKing lol Proto 794	Posted - 2014.10.20 22:57:00 - [7] - Quote xavier zor wrote: Jebus McKing wrote: Proto active scanner scans: undampened MN/AM scouts Logis Assaults Sentinels Commandos That is 90% of suits. Sounds good to me. missed caldari and gallante :P i know plenty of people who don't dampen their suits but...such as me. I put codebreakers on instead of dampeners (15% from caldari scout operation V and 15% from dampening V I was talking about non-GalLogi scans. Avoiding a Gal Logi with active scanner with anything that is not a scout suit is impossible. Gal Logi needs a scanning nerf. As do scouts. DUST514 is love // @JebusMcKing
Bax Zanith Sinfonia1898 200	Posted - 2014.10.20 23:10:00 - [8] - Quote Bahirae Serugiusu wrote: Active scanners show you those nice pretty little uplinks so you know where the enemies are coming from. They are also useful for spotting RE and finding heavies, and mediums, and if you get a error message from it then you know a cowardly scouts around. I actually make sure to put one on all my Assault suits since they are fairly cheap on the PG/CPU cost and insanely useful. but surly i can do this all with the scout's passive scans, with the added bonus of a perpetual 360 degree radius? Dos the precision of your dropsuit effect the active scanner in any way? They didn't die from the cold without They died from the cold within. - James Patrick Kinney
2Berries Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 399	Posted - 2014.10.20 23:36:00 - [9] - Quote Bax Zanith wrote: Why I would I ever want an active scanner? Intel wp's Have you considered a career in costumed aggression?
Bahirae Serugiusu Vendetta Reactionary Force 188	Posted - 2014.10.20 23:40:00 - [10] - Quote Bax Zanith wrote: Bahirae Serugiusu wrote: Active scanners show you those nice pretty little uplinks so you know where the enemies are coming from. They are also useful for spotting RE and finding heavies, and mediums, and if you get a error message from it then you know a cowardly scouts around. I actually make sure to put one on all my Assault suits since they are fairly cheap on the PG/CPU cost and insanely useful. but surly i can do this all with the scout's passive scans, with the added bonus of a perpetual 360 degree radius? Dos the precision of your dropsuit effect the active scanner in any way? Can you scan 100m away with your scout suit?

Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1776	Posted - 2014.10.20 23:45:00 - [11] - Quote I do not have the best gungame in town, and let's be honest, my reflexes at 40+ aren't what they used to be. Add to this that I'm deaf in one ear, and it makes competing with many people difficult. To counter this, I've always been into scanning....and here's my take: Gallogi scans are the strongest in the game. That's the good news. The bad news is every scout in the game can get below them once they see the "You have been scanned" come across their screen. All the scouts have to do is run a combination of dampeners and/or a cloak and you'll ever pick them up. On the bright side, they are a bit squishier in being forced to do so. The only time I use a gal logi is if I have scouts running around causing havoc and I want try and force them to run the even squishier suits (or I need the extra range). Otherwise, when I want to provide scans for my squad (which is to say quite frequently), I use either an Amarr or Cal Scout -- as the other team doesn't get the warning they've been scanned. Active scanning is good, and in many ways passive scanning is better, yet both fail miserably when faced with well-dampened scouts. Hope this helps...Leadfoot
Bahirae Serugiusu Vendetta Reactionary Force 188	Posted - 2014.10.20 23:47:00 - [12] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: Gallogi scans are the strongest in the game. That's the good news. The bad news is every scout in the game can get below them once they see the "You have been scanned" come across their screen. All the scouts have to do is run a combination of dampeners and/or a cloak and you'll ever pick them up. On the bright side, they are a bit squishier in being forced to do so. The only time I use a gal logi is if I have scouts running around causing havoc and I want try and force them to run the even squishier suits (or I need the extra range). Otherwise, when I want to provide scans for my squad (which is to say quite frequently), I use either an Amarr or Cal Scout -- as the other team doesn't get the warning they've been scanned. Hope this helps...Leadfoot Even if they counter the scan you know the direction that the scout is in and can be more careful about it which you don't get with passive scans till you've been killed.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1776	Posted - 2014.10.20 23:51:00 - [13] - Quote Bahirae Serugiusu wrote: Even if they counter the scan you know the direction that the scout is in and can be more careful about it which you don't get with passive scans till you've been killed. Marginal advantage at best, IMO... ...and remember, that scout now knows that you know.
Bahirae Serugiusu Vendetta Reactionary Force 188	Posted - 2014.10.20 23:57:00 - [14] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: Bahirae Serugiusu wrote: Even if they counter the scan you know the direction that the scout is in and can be more careful about it which you don't get with passive scans till you've been killed. Marginal advantage at best, IMO... ...and remember, that scout now knows that you know. You've essentially put a "shotun me first" on your back, if the scout is any good. When you're playing an Assault Dropsuit you take what you can get.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1777	Posted - 2014.10.20 23:58:00 - [15] - Quote lol So true. I feel for you, brother.
XxVEXESxX 33	Posted - 2014.10.21 00:08:00 - [16] - Quote When scans are used the red dots seem to all turn into scouts you cant scan. 7 secs of scan should always catch a scout. Since the change to scanners its been worthless against scouts. I just had to spend 4mil to see for myself. The suppression effect doesnt work when your swarmed by scouts you cant scan even before your cooldowns are up. PSN: XxVEXESxX Minmatar loyalist Dropsuit Upgrades level 5
Dreis Shadowweaver Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 427	Posted - 2014.10.21 01:46:00 - [17] - Quote I run a scanner on my Min Scout, and I wouldn't run without one. It's great because you can still tank instead of ranges/precisions, and I can scan 100m/s out, and tell if a scout's there. Test it in the field. What do you actually run? That would have been helpful... Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel I've only ever known 1.8... Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1305	Posted - 2014.10.21 01:57:00 - [18] - Quote Bax Zanith wrote: Why I would I ever want an active scanner? I've been experimenting with protofits.com, and even at max level skills, and on a Gallente logi, doesn't look like it could be much help to me. indeed.. there is a problem.. gal logi 5 and focused proto active scanner get to maybe 19.x where as scouts get to 14.x even with out cloak or something daft.. and i recall a scout saying all it takes is basic cloak to get under the active scanner [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 4909	Posted - 2014.10.21 02:04:00 - [19] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: Bax Zanith wrote: Why I would I ever want an active scanner? I've been experimenting with protofits.com, and even at max level skills, and on a Gallente logi, doesn't look like it could be much help to me. indeed.. there is a problem.. gal logi 5 and focused proto active scanner get to maybe 19.x where as scouts get to 14.x even with out cloak or something daft.. and i recall a scout saying all it takes is basic cloak to get under the active scanner. i miss the old days when "margin of error" made people bhit sricks.. now a days people dotn even bother cause there are soo many FOTM assault-lite scouts youd need to be packing 3 scanners just so you could keep people scanned Gal Logi with focused gets to 15 dB. That is why the scouts can get to 14. It wasn't an accident. You can always tell a Millford Minja
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 2216	Posted - 2014.10.21 02:08:00 - [20] - Quote Bax Zanith wrote: Why I would I ever want an active scanner? I've been experimenting with protofits.com, and even at max level skills, and on a Gallente logi, doesn't look like it could be much help to me. When was the last time that website was updated? Does it include the new logi bonuses and all that? I stopped using the jack-of-all-trades Gal logi, and went for Minnie as it's on par with the Amarr for usefulness. Great reps from the Minnie, fast spawns from the Amarr. I think the Gal logi would be great to make sure as few people move around unnoticed as possible. All must be seen, none shall escape. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim

CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 2049	Posted - 2014.10.21 02:10:00 - [21] - Quote I used to think this all the time, but now I am debating going for Gallente logi next for a dedicated active scanner role. Trust me the active scanner still has some great uses and utility to a squad. Just....make sure you are in a squad otherwise that active scanner is a lot more limited. "Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones" "Guns for show, Knives for a pro" MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2629	Posted - 2014.10.21 02:30:00 - [22] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: Bahirae Serugiusu wrote: Even if they counter the scan you know the direction that the scout is in and can be more careful about it which you don't get with passive scans till you've been killed. Marginal advantage at best, IMO... ...and remember, that scout now knows that you know. You've essentially put a "shotun me first" on your back, if the scout is any good. "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ Give the Minja active dampening!--By Bor
Lloyd Orfay Commando Perkone Caldari State 81	Posted - 2014.10.21 02:57:00 - [23] - Quote Even if it only shows players for a few seconds, the active scanner is one of the most illogically powerful equipment pieces in the game. Mind you, it can scan nearly all sixteen players. Though the part that makes it useless for getting points is that people really don't have enough firepower to kill all sixteen people to give you intel assist points super fast.
Mike Ox Bigger Extremely Wicked 297	Posted - 2014.10.21 05:39:00 - [24] - Quote The problem with the scanner is why bother running it when you can get similar effect by just running a scout with ewar and if you lose the cloak you can have similar HP with a smaller hit box. Plus they're currently only worth running if you're a Gal Logi which limits them and then add to the fact very few people actually run logi anymore. I am always surprised when you've been scanned pops up on the screen.
hold that Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 292	Posted - 2014.10.21 05:52:00 - [25] - Quote Bax Zanith wrote: Why I would I ever want an active scanner? I've been experimenting with protofits.com, and even at max level skills, and on a Gallente logi, doesn't look like it could be much help to me. WTh? yo man this is one of the scubbiest posts ive seen in a while. I say that only so you can learn a valuable lesson. A HUGE part of this game revolves around being able to know the location of your enemy, esp. with the introduction of scrub cloak scouts. Shared scans are imperative to your squads survival. As a gal logi with active scanner bonus you are one of the very few people in the game other than scouts that can pick up scrub cloaked scouts. Yo wtf man I can't believe a gal logi would think about not using a scanner...
Bax Zanith Sinfonia1898 200	Posted - 2014.10.21 15:36:00 - [26] - Quote hold that wrote: Bax Zanith wrote: Why I would I ever want an active scanner? I've been experimenting with protofits.com, and even at max level skills, and on a Gallente logi, doesn't look like it could be much help to me. WTh? yo man this is one of the scubbiest posts ive seen in a while. I say that only so you can learn a valuable lesson. A HUGE part of this game revolves around being able to know the location of your enemy, esp. with the introduction of scrub cloak scouts. Shared scans are imperative to your squads survival. As a gal logi with active scanner bonus you are one of the very few people in the game other than scouts that can pick up scrub cloaked scouts. Yo wtf man I can't believe a gal logi would think about not using a scanner... I'm not a gal logi... sorry for that bit of confusion. I made a gal logi in Protofits.com. They didn't die from the cold without They died from the cold within. - James Patrick Kinney


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