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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2014.10.21 10:28:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:
I would also like to talk vehicle balance.....more specifically making HAV feel like tanks and not having them continue to dominate infantry like they continue to do.
I normally don't disagree with you True but I was skimming the forums like I do but I had to sign in to ask you this , how are HAV's dominating infantry ???
If you don't have some form of AV by now , it's not CCP's fault ... they have provided the tools for the task and they work well .
I forge ( I went toe to toe with a HAV on the ground , in a 4 m range ... granted he just tried to blaster me and clearly didn't adjust his tactic because he was in a tank ) HAV's with ease , I swarm them with ease and if anything , they might be a little underpowered but I digress because these are basic and standard products going against prototype materials for the most part , so when the next tier of vehicles arrive then the community could have a more true gage of the vehicle v.s. anti-vehicle dynamic .
It's a little too early to claim dominance , you could have before the changes to the PG / CPU adjustments , mod changes or anti-vehicle enhancements , hell even NK's can slash a vehicle .
I just don't agree with HAV's being overpowered , you could say that previously but not now and if infantry doesn't speck into anti-vehicle , then that's their problem .
For those that do , it pays off and well might I add .
I'm just shocked that this thinking comes from you of all people , making HAV's weaker is definitely not a way to help them feel like a tank .
Infantry is the main factor and always will but HAV's should be able to defend themselves against infantry and not just by driving off , what are the defensive mods or the skill point investment for .?. and why have the option of numerous fits for vehicle's if none can help in the defense of them ???
If an infantry can stand in front of a HAV they should have some type of fear , not like it was when they killed the large blasters with the dispersion ... even for me , that was just wrong ... as much as I kill vehicle's I could not use that exploit and that's what it was because it made a tool ineffective . Not even moderately .
One thing I can say about the hot fixes after FF was that , CCP has introduced more cause and effect in game , there is NO CLEAR CUT DEFINED FOTM ANYMORE and that has increased the dynamics of this game 100 fold .
Now there is no clear cut " I win " button , the previous ADS firing rate was clear I win , 50% increase of fire rate was totally OP and just like the HAV's were OP and changes were made , the same came with and happened for ADS .
Now for every cause , there is a reaction and mostly everything has a counter other then it's self .
Not so much for scouts but that another story .
Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2014.10.21 10:42:00 -
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iKILLu osborne wrote: I honestly think the rof nerf was to harsh and should be brought back up to at least 5% per level.
Let's try giving ground vehicle's a 5% ROF increase and see how well that goes ?
I'm sure that LAV's could use that for one .
Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2014.10.21 10:48:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:ROMULUS H3X wrote:Dropships are for transport..... everything else is just a bonus.
Stop trying to fly around in the air like vegeta, destroying everything in your path... +1 for DBZ reference. Anywho, good luck, Judge. While I believe Swarms vs DS is okay, now, DS vs Anything is not. They lack both boom and running away. What they lack in one place (Running Away from swarms) should be dealt with the other (more boom).
I still see ADS 's destroying HAV's and infantry , hell I blew up a few HAV's myself .
I think it depends on the pilot and the squad , like it should ... there should not be a I win anymore else you will have an oversaturation of such like there was with scouts and heavies .
Want boom , fit a damage mod and yes that would take an investment to make it fit accordingly but that should be said about any role .
Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2014.10.21 10:54:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:20 mil in ads havent flown for 2 months. Cant wait til we get that respec im getting out of it so fast. Devs idea of an ads is decoration makes the battle look cooler like somethings actually going on. Shoot at it a couple times and get back to infantry fighting. thats IF they give us a respec tho i think it may just be a refund when Vehicle parity comes.. or it will be a big middle finger and an "FU no respec"
You have more people fighting against a refund , so it seems ... find the backing and we can have it soon and not at the end of the game like some suggest , what good would that do .?. and to me would be a smack in the face .
Get together and focus and we can get it done .
Sure would solve a lot of problems .
Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2014.10.21 11:06:00 -
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Vesta Opalus wrote:XxGhazbaranxX wrote:yadda yadda The whole being immune to 90% of the damage on the battlefield is also a falacy since every player has a free fit to deal with vehicles but choose not to use it. blah blah The militia swarm launcher is a bad joke, and the militia fit doesnt even have a navohive. An AV player cant do his pathetic sad job of not killing a vehicle all game and watching them fly away only to come back in 15 seconds at full health if they dont have nanohives. But its ok, like most swarmers he probably wont last long enough to notice.
That's the problem , militia swarmer ( one ) should not just wreak ADS's , their basically advanced vehicles ( the only one currently ) and if you want to swarm , you should invest .
You people just don't get it with militia talk involving people who invest in their role .
I'll fit a militia swarmer for a month and still wreak , I have swarm to pro 3 and I swarm most games so I know what to do for the most part .
Half of those who swarm do it wrong anyway if their not in a Commando suit , meaning ... they stand right out in the open and try to swarm , against using the environment to hide and movements to flank .
Standing out in the open will get you killed , jump out of a HAV pilot or LAV driver , hell ... I get out of my derp and HMG players , I don't know what they think will happen when a dropship lands next to them .
Just makes me wonder if people AV , with what they say .
Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2014.10.21 19:44:00 -
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Vesta Opalus wrote:
I've invested in my role, I have prototype forge guns & heavy.
Im not sure what relevance anything you are saying has to a discussion of balance, what bad swarmers do doesnt mean much. Just like what bad ADS pilots do doesnt mean much.
All I know is that at a reasonable level of skill, an ADS pilot in a one on one with AV is invincible unless they choose to risk death.
I'm talking about your militia comment obviously and if you have such an investment then why mention militia.?. , like your trying to make some type of point of comparison , that's what I'm talking about .
An ADS pilot should be invincible in a one on one with a single AV unless they risk death , they have a much greater advantage in mobility if their skilled like you mentioned but also like you mentioned , it should depend upon the skill and weapon used by each .
Why risk death when you already have a tactical advantage ?
That would just be greedy and foolish when I'm sure as a pilot , there are many targets that would need the same amount of attention that would have been given to that one player and would prove to be of more value .
Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
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