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Mobius Wyvern
Onslaught Inc
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Posted - 2014.10.22 16:38:00 -
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Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:So I have been flying dropships for 2 days. And the CPM and CCP should be ashamed of themselves. Me included. I apologize to pilots. I let you down. The ADS is useless. We can't even make a tank scared now. My missiles fire so slowly i'm just a noise in the air, nothing more. We tried to show the evidence to CCP, we tried to manage balance but the anti vehicles guys could not let their lack of experience and knowledge stop them from sticking their ignorant fingers into the mix.
Killing a Milita dropship in a proto ship is a 5 minute fight. Killing tanks is impossible unless they forget the redline exists. Round two; gloves off.
While playing with Arkena Wyrnspire the other day, he made the good point that if a weapon system requires a 10% per level bonus from the asset that uses it just to be useful, there's something very wrong with the weapon itself.
Rather than increase the RoF bonus, I think that Missile turrets should have their own RoF looked at, since they weren't really a threat on anything but an ADS before, and now can only hit people that are oblivious to the fact that they're getting shot at.
Personally, I would also like to see Turret variants brought back into the game. While the current missiles seem reasonable for killing infantry given that in most cases you can drop a suit in one shot, they are completely worthless against vehicles. A higher RoF missile with very little splash damage could help the Python be useful against vehicles again.
However, I would like to point out that the Incubus with a Small Railgun suddenly feels amazing. Even with the bonus reduced so far, the changes made to Small Rails mean that I can drop a Soma in a single magazine, and I've been working on improving my aim so I can go back to killing tanks.
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As an alternate to bringing back Turret variants, CCP could bring back the Particle Cannons that the Gallente used to have back in Replication and the E3 build. For those of you who weren't here, those had higher direct damage than railguns with practically zero splash damage.
If those were returned, we could have the Python gain a bonus to Small Railguns, and the Incubus gain a bonus to Particle Cannons. That would give both aircraft the means to fill an AV role.
Also, Small Blasters need more dispersion on Dropships. Right now you can't land a shot unless that tiny dot in the middle of the spread circle is directly on your target, at least if you're using them via the nosegun of an ADS.
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Mobius Wyvern
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.10.22 17:32:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:Disclaimer: I am not a ADS pilot.
Personally, I think ADS are fine (or even a bit OP) against infantry.
I think their AA and AV strength needs a buff, however.
This is an example of why we need variants of Turrets or more Turret options.
Right now a Python is pretty much worthless against vehicles.
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Mobius Wyvern
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.10.24 01:31:00 -
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Pvt Numnutz wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:So I have been flying dropships for 2 days. And the CPM and CCP should be ashamed of themselves. Me included. I apologize to pilots. I let you down. The ADS is useless. We can't even make a tank scared now. My missiles fire so slowly i'm just a noise in the air, nothing more. We tried to show the evidence to CCP, we tried to manage balance but the anti vehicles guys could not let their lack of experience and knowledge stop them from sticking their ignorant fingers into the mix.
Killing a Milita dropship in a proto ship is a 5 minute fight. Killing tanks is impossible unless they forget the redline exists. Round two; gloves off. See? We told you. This is what it's like to get bent over. Only, think of it for 2 years running, many times over. I really hope you've learned your lesson. Okay spark, I logged in just to reply to this. Shut up, you know nothing of pain and hardship. Tankers have had it pretty easy since the start. There is a reason why every dropship pilots mortal enemy is a lamp post, I don't expect you to understand this as you have never had to deal with something as horrible as loosing hundreads of thousands of isk to gently tapping something. Judge, I am concerned by this post and I will be logging in to dust either later today or tomorrow to try these changes first hand. If my role of troop transport has been hampered to the point it is unviable then I will post so here, as that would be serious.
Troop Transport with a Myron or Grimsnes is virtually the only way you can still fly and be useful. Missile RoF is low enough that the Swarmer you're shooting will have emptied his magazine into you before you can kill him, and after 5 matches of using a Small Blaster on an Incubus, I can confirm that there is NO dispersion when firing.
Just like how the HMG used to be, if the tiny dot in the middle of the circle isn't on the enemy, your shots won't do any damage, even if you can see them spreading out enough that you should have gotten a hit.
Amidst the blue skies
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Mobius Wyvern
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.10.28 12:24:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:General Mosquito wrote:Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:So I have been flying dropships for 2 days. And the CPM and CCP should be ashamed of themselves. Me included. I apologize to pilots. I let you down. The ADS is useless. We can't even make a tank scared now. My missiles fire so slowly i'm just a noise in the air, nothing more. We tried to show the evidence to CCP, we tried to manage balance but the anti vehicles guys could not let their lack of experience and knowledge stop them from sticking their ignorant fingers into the mix.
Killing a Milita dropship in a proto ship is a 5 minute fight. Killing tanks is impossible unless they forget the redline exists. Round two; gloves off. You killed tanks, which gave your precious dropships free reign. What did you think was going to happen? LOL Thank you for that. He had railgun range cut in half, insanely mostly by himself.
Yeah, because being able to kill vehicles being delivered into the enemy redline from the safety of your own redline was stupid.
You could literally destroy anything you chose to anywhere on the map without being at risk whatsoever.
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