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Judge Rhadamanthus
Amarr Templar One
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Posted - 2014.10.20 21:46:00 -
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So I have been flying dropships for 2 days. And the CPM and CCP should be phucking ashamed of themselves. Me included. I apologize to pilots. I let you down. The ADS is useless. We can't even make a tank scared now. My missiles fire so slowly i'm just a noise in the air, nothing more. We tried to show the evidence to CCP, we tried to manage balance but the anti vehicles guys could not let their lack of experience and knowledge stop them from sticking their ignorant fingers into the mix.
Killing a Milita dropship in a proto ship is a 5 minute fight. Killing tanks is impossible unless they forget the redline exists. Round two; gloves off.
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Judge Rhadamanthus
Amarr Templar One
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Posted - 2014.10.20 22:06:00 -
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Kensai Dragon wrote:Welcome back Judge! As you've noted already, we've missed you!
I'm am back. Refreshed, Angry and coming out kicking and screaming for you guys. CCP need to know you have people on your side. Kiss arse need not apply.
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Judge Rhadamanthus
Amarr Templar One
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Posted - 2014.10.20 22:10:00 -
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steve0809 wrote:And a CPM member that only cares about his own play style and screw the rest ?
I am sorry I voted for you
i guess my cloak video bug missed you, or my one about how under powered swarms were, or the one about how dropships should be for transport, or how I tried to encoraged tankers out the redline, or how I was vocal about autoaim or strafeing.....
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Judge Rhadamanthus
Amarr Templar One
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Posted - 2014.10.20 22:26:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:So I have been flying dropships for 2 days. And the CPM and CCP should be phucking ashamed of themselves. Me included. I apologize to pilots. I let you down. The ADS is useless. We can't even make a tank scared now. My missiles fire so slowly i'm just a noise in the air, nothing more. We tried to show the evidence to CCP, we tried to manage balance but the anti vehicles guys could not let their lack of experience and knowledge stop them from sticking their ignorant fingers into the mix.
Killing a Milita dropship in a proto ship is a 5 minute fight. Killing tanks is impossible unless they forget the redline exists. Round two; gloves off. If I can I would like to get you into voice with whoever and discuss some things. As an AV player I have become less and less happy with the state of vehicles and I need to get some input on how to present this and not run crap numbers. Bluntly I think there are a few core design issues that clash with current stated objectives that are legacy problems from beta. Some of which I brought up but got shouted down on. I would like to talk.
Im on right now. Inv me
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Judge Rhadamanthus
Amarr Templar One
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Posted - 2014.10.20 22:39:00 -
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If you think A good job was done with the Tank, the ADS and the AV then speak up. I think It sucks. Show me why it does not.
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Judge Rhadamanthus
Amarr Templar One
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Posted - 2014.10.20 23:14:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:So I have been flying dropships for 2 days. And the CPM and CCP should be phucking ashamed of themselves. Me included. I apologize to pilots. I let you down. The ADS is useless. We can't even make a tank scared now. My missiles fire so slowly i'm just a noise in the air, nothing more. We tried to show the evidence to CCP, we tried to manage balance but the anti vehicles guys could not let their lack of experience and knowledge stop them from sticking their ignorant fingers into the mix.
Killing a Milita dropship in a proto ship is a 5 minute fight. Killing tanks is impossible unless they forget the redline exists. Round two; gloves off. If I can I would like to get you into voice with whoever and discuss some things. As an AV player I have become less and less happy with the state of vehicles and I need to get some input on how to present this and not run crap numbers. Bluntly I think there are a few core design issues that clash with current stated objectives that are legacy problems from beta. Some of which I brought up but got shouted down on. I would like to talk.
Dude. We are on voice together right now
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Judge Rhadamanthus
Amarr Templar One
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Posted - 2014.10.20 23:19:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:So I have been flying dropships for 2 days. And the CPM and CCP should be phucking ashamed of themselves. Me included. I apologize to pilots. I let you down. The ADS is useless. We can't even make a tank scared now. My missiles fire so slowly i'm just a noise in the air, nothing more. We tried to show the evidence to CCP, we tried to manage balance but the anti vehicles guys could not let their lack of experience and knowledge stop them from sticking their ignorant fingers into the mix.
Killing a Milita dropship in a proto ship is a 5 minute fight. Killing tanks is impossible unless they forget the redline exists. Round two; gloves off. If I can I would like to get you into voice with whoever and discuss some things. As an AV player I have become less and less happy with the state of vehicles and I need to get some input on how to present this and not run crap numbers. Bluntly I think there are a few core design issues that clash with current stated objectives that are legacy problems from beta. Some of which I brought up but got shouted down on. I would like to talk. Dude. We are on voice together right now I would also like to talk vehicle balance.....more specifically making HAV feel like tanks and not having them continue to dominate infantry like they continue to do. ....unfortunately not able to make it to the console as of the moment.
Ill be in DEVHANGOUT tomorrow
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Judge Rhadamanthus
Amarr Templar One
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Posted - 2014.10.20 23:27:00 -
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REDBACK96USMC wrote:Wow a cry baby thread from Judge. Who knew?
As Rattati stated and as someone who espouses the importance of numbers: The numbers overwhelmingly showed the ADS was too OP. CPM had no say in the changes and shouldnt as long as you are on it.
Not a cry thread. A thread pointing out the reality. Things have gone off course. We need to swing it back. The numbers said one thing.. the action taken did not represent the best option based on the numbers.
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Judge Rhadamanthus
Amarr Templar One
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Posted - 2014.10.20 23:38:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:So I have been flying dropships for 2 days. And the CPM and CCP should be phucking ashamed of themselves. Me included. I apologize to pilots. I let you down. The ADS is useless. We can't even make a tank scared now. My missiles fire so slowly i'm just a noise in the air, nothing more. We tried to show the evidence to CCP, we tried to manage balance but the anti vehicles guys could not let their lack of experience and knowledge stop them from sticking their ignorant fingers into the mix.
Killing a Milita dropship in a proto ship is a 5 minute fight. Killing tanks is impossible unless they forget the redline exists. Round two; gloves off. welcome to being Mortal.. and if youve only been flying ads for 2 days you really are gonna suck as ads is a very heavy sp investment on both time, skill and SP.. so yeah.. instead of ranting, ask the pros.. as for MLT ship vs Protoship.. 1. ADS is still only a "standard" level of that ship type.. 2. Blaster = win vs other dropships (especially on incubus) 3. MLT is just standard with higher cpu and pg costs basically.. and finally.. GIT GUD! iv still seen ADS pilots wrecking face.
thanks.
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Judge Rhadamanthus
Amarr Templar One
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Posted - 2014.10.20 23:57:00 -
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Blueprint For Murder wrote:I am just glad we will have a CPM that isn't a dimwit good luck wading through their foolishness judge. I look forward to your future videos.
Thanks. I read the last 20 pages in General and feedback, and I just did not see enough support for the issues that were being raised, Not just ADS, though I admit freely that it was the straw that broke my back, but for so many. Did you see that complaints about the bolt pistol? or the issue many were having with the missile tank turret? Too many things need to be addressed and they are slipping under the carpet.
The ADS thing is just a wake up call to me that we need to shout when bad things happen. At the same time, we need to praise the good. A balance of sorts. 1.9 awesome. thank you CCP. ADS... you did a poor job. Map changes thanks, SCR heat changes... no thanks.
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Judge Rhadamanthus
Amarr Templar One
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Posted - 2014.10.21 00:41:00 -
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Imp Smash wrote:Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:So I have been flying dropships for 2 days. And the CPM and CCP should be phucking ashamed of themselves. Me included. I apologize to pilots. I let you down. The ADS is useless. We can't even make a tank scared now. My missiles fire so slowly i'm just a noise in the air, nothing more. We tried to show the evidence to CCP, we tried to manage balance but the anti vehicles guys could not let their lack of experience and knowledge stop them from sticking their ignorant fingers into the mix.
Killing a Milita dropship in a proto ship is a 5 minute fight. Killing tanks is impossible unless they forget the redline exists. Round two; gloves off. Questions: 1.) How much did you fly the ADS before the nerf? 2.) What was your average KDR in a dropship before nerf?
1) A lot. Really. Lots
2) over 10 matches say 15 kills a match with a death every 3 matches. That's a 50 KDR- ish (in a dropship which I do not use all the time so game stats are not relational). P and L that is WORSE than a 39 000 ISK suit amarr assualt over the same match range, with a 10 kill per match rate and a 3 death per match. That amarr would have a 3.3 KDR
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Judge Rhadamanthus
Amarr Templar One
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Posted - 2014.10.28 21:27:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Nothing Certain wrote:[quote=Judge Rhadamanthus]If you think A good job was done with the Tank, the ADS and the AV then speak up. I think It sucks. Show me why it does not.[/quote
Show me why it does. What does balance look like to you? What kdr or spawn/kill ratio should ADS pilots average?Tankers? AVers? Or what metric should we be looking at? To me they should all fare similarly , what we had was pilots being nigh invincible and claiming they deserved it because of SP and ISK expenditure. I am still pretty sure that 10 swarms are lost for every ADS at a minimum, so how is that imbalanced against ADS? 10? more like 100.
100? How about we look at some real figures. Pulling numbers from your bottom is useless. Dropships in this build need to maintain a 43.2 kdr compared to the equivilent SP based Swarm with a 3.6 KDR. KDR alone as a balance tool is for people who have a pre-school understanding of balance tools
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Judge Rhadamanthus
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Posted - 2014.10.28 21:35:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Nothing in this game should ever "maintain" a KDR of 43. Ever.
Interesting point. how many kills per game then, for a dropship over 20 games is a 43 KDR? And how does that compare based on kills and P and L to a Swarmer?
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Judge Rhadamanthus
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Posted - 2014.10.28 21:43:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:No consumable item fielded in this game should ever survive 20 games. Ever.
I said over 20 games as kdr.... what has that got to do with lasting 20 games without a death? that would not be a 43 kdr.
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Judge Rhadamanthus
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Posted - 2014.10.28 21:54:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Okay, let me ask you, how many kills and deaths do you expect with a well-balanced ADS in the course of a single match?
It can only be compared to other classes. you cannot look at the ADS alone. Ill drop the math into a video for those who are struggling with this
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