Swarms need to be dumber actually for balance.

Currently they target the last location a vehicle was at THEN turn to pursue rather than tracking the target directly.

Bluntly swarms should go completely dumbfire and go spinning off if they lose line of sight. The round-a-corner thing, while neat, creates a problem. Vehicles are supposed to be window of opportunity.

The window of escape is lacking.

They can escape a forge gunner more easily overall.

Turn radius is too tight on a swarm and the AI is too smart.

Dropship/tank in the open? Oh yeah. Kill them with fire. But there need to be more rewards for intelligent maneuvering and positioning.

its mainly to combat exploiting 'head glitching' of tanks and DS's on hills and buildings. perhaps just make it vs ground and leave building collisions so that a good pilot can steer round a tower to lose them? i've just noticed that due to the steerign curve they're more prone to hittign hillsides. with the 90 degree turnign they'd fly over the hill and then turn straight down above the tank hitting from the top, now they just curve towards the centre of it meaning if the centre of the tank is lower that teh peak of a hill they wont hit

They can escape a forge gunner more easily overall.

Wonder how hard it could be to have some kind of system in place for swarms to be a bit more 'smart' in order not to plough into the floor or a building when chasing a vehicle? as it stands swarms target teh centre of the vehicle mass which means vehicles on edge of roofs or peeking over the top of a hill can remain unscathed. make it only by 1 or 2m so a vehicle thats actually hiding will still have cover but pilots exploiting the bad flight path will suffer

and yeah yeah i know vehicle drivers will now say "but oh nirwanda that'll make it easier for the swarms to hit us when chasing us"

well no it wont because it will actually increase the path swarms take around obstacles and make thier turnign curve a little worse off too taking more off their flight time, but what it will help is that when a tank is creeping over the tip of a hill the swarms will go up and over the hill instead of hitting the side of the hill or when a DS is perched on side of a building acting as an installation we have the oppertunity to actually hit it instead of it being near invulnerable because of iffy flight mechanics

No.

Forge gunner needs to land three aimed shots with a chargesd shot. An ADS is more likely to escape the third shot because of wild evasive maneuvering. A fourth shot is invariablt a hail mary. The instant a forge gun goes into reload cycle you have lost the target. Period.

Assault forge is the only gun that can get the third shot, much less try for the hail mary shot, but the forge gun will miss. The swarms will not. The escape window is shorter, but more likely unless the pilot likes to sit still through the second shot and monofocuses on a target below.

I must also add that you're far more likely to encounter 3-4 swarms on the field at a time than you are to see on proto capable and competent AV forge gunner. So yeah. Dropships are more likely to escape forge guns than swarms.

How about a variant that launches the swarms about 20-30 meters away from you before finding the target lock and homing in? That way you can launch them into the air or at angles so that even if they do back up behind something they'll still get hit with at least one set.

A rep fit works well against small turrets and even blasters, but not so well against a forge gun, having already used a hardener and not being able to pop it when you get shot will also be problematic.

It's not just badly fit vehicles... Would you say a rep stacked Madruga is a bad fit even though it stomps half the av in the game?