DUST Search - Does anybody use damage mods

xavier zor wrote:

Son-Of A-Gun wrote:

Here's the calculations for DPS. You can decide for yourself:

I'll use an arbitrary number that I can remeber off the top of my head, for the breach AR, since I don't have the game on right now.

Damage per round = 55

Rounds per minute = 428

Seconds in a minute = 60

(55 GÇó 428) / 60 = 392.33^e

DPS unmoded = 392.33

Damage Vs. shields

392.33 GÇó 1.1 = 431.56

Damage Vs. armor

392.33 GÇó .9 = 353.1

Against shields Lv 5 proficiency unmoded

431.56 GÇó 1.15 = 496.30

Against shields Lv 5 proficiency + mod

496.30 GÇó 1.07 = 531.04

Total damage per second benifit of mod Vs. shields = 34.74

Against armor + mod:

353.1 GÇó 1.07 = 377.81

Total DPS benifit of mod Vs. armor = 24.72

These are the numbers you are intested in:

Total DPS benifit of mod Vs. shields = 34.74
Total DPS benifit of mod Vs. armor = 24.72

Now you have to decide for yourself which is more powerful/useful to you: 34.74/24.72 DPS or 66 HP shields?

Yeah....all my AR skills are V (except for optimization IV, as upgrading it to V does nothing to the CPU usage)

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xavier zor G.L.O.R.Y Dark Taboo 87	Posted - 2014.10.20 10:19:00 - [1] - Quote I was thinking of putting a complex damage mod on my scout instead of a complex shield...but is it worth it? Is the extra 7% worth it? scout ck.0 here!
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3615	Posted - 2014.10.20 11:03:00 - [2] - Quote My Assault and Sentinel ak.0 fits all use complex damage mods. When I want to be nasty, I also slap two on my Scout gk.0 and run around with dual TY-5 BrScPs. Things tend to just die...
jonny battles Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 6	Posted - 2014.10.20 11:08:00 - [3] - Quote I run it on all my forgegun fits.assault and then my min commando It was just that easy
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 2349	Posted - 2014.10.20 11:20:00 - [4] - Quote I run them when I can. It's pretty much what we armor tankers do on heavy offensive frames- damage high, armor related in the lows. Prof. V Plasma Cannon and Gallente Commando V. There is no regret. Only explosions.
Atiim 13089	Posted - 2014.10.20 11:41:00 - [5] - Quote Unless I'm running my Dual Sidearm fits, I tend to not use them unless on my Commando. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Ablerober Sea of Sin 152	Posted - 2014.10.20 11:44:00 - [6] - Quote xavier zor wrote: I was thinking of putting a complex damage mod on my scout instead of a complex shield...but is it worth it? Is the extra 7% worth it? Only on my proto assault suits where I yield a Duvolle AR or Kaalakiota RR. I'm finding less of a reason to use them these days and would rather equip an extra shield extender, especially on a standard or advanced Caldari assault dropsuit.
Cyzad4 Blackfish Corp. 405	Posted - 2014.10.20 12:09:00 - [7] - Quote Sometimes, depends what I'm running against. Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair.
Son-Of A-Gun Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1328	Posted - 2014.10.20 12:53:00 - [8] - Quote Here's the calculations for DPS. You can decide for yourself: I'll use and arbitrary number that I can remeber off the top of my head, for the breach AR, since I don't have the game on right now. Damage per round = 55 Rounds per minute = 428 Seconds in a minute = 60 (55 GÇó 428) / 60 = 392.33^e DPS unmoded = 392.33 Damage Vs. shields 392.33 GÇó 1.1 = 431.56 Damage Vs. armor 392.33 GÇó .9 = 353.1 Against shields Lv 5 proficiency unmoded 431.56 GÇó 1.15 = 496.30 Against shields Lv 5 proficiency + mod 496.30 GÇó 1.07 = 531.04 Total damage per second benifit of mod Vs. shields = 34.74 Against armor + mod: 353.1 GÇó 1.07 = 377.81 Total DPS benifit of mod Vs. armor = 24.72 These are the numbers you are intested in: Total DPS benifit of mod Vs. shields = 34.74 Total DPS benifit of mod Vs. armor = 24.72 Now you have to decide for your self which is more powerful/useful to you: 34.74/24.72 DPS or 66 HP shields? {:)}{3GÇó>
Denchlad 7 Dead Man's Game 781	Posted - 2014.10.20 12:58:00 - [9] - Quote I run 1 Complex on HMG CalSent, and 3 Complex on Forge CalSent. Amarr Assault fits normally get 1 Enhanced, and Swarm fits normally do too. The Connoisseur of Weapons. 19/19 L5 P2. 66-3 with Dual-Miltia Bolt Pistols. OP? OP.
Fizzer XCIV Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 598	Posted - 2014.10.20 13:22:00 - [10] - Quote Damage mods are only worth it for the first 2 mods. Even then, they are only mathematically superior to shield extenders if you have a high Alpha Damage/DPS weapon or a significant HP buffer. Swag-suit4lyfe!

postapo wastelander Wasteland Desert Rangers 265	Posted - 2014.10.20 13:26:00 - [11] - Quote xavier zor wrote: I was thinking of putting a complex damage mod on my scout instead of a complex shield...but is it worth it? Is the extra 7% worth it? Maybe in future for racial variants, right now im more in shield/armor stacking "Ultimate Loggi, Pirmatar and fabulous Tinker since 2012"
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 18267	Posted - 2014.10.20 13:27:00 - [12] - Quote Rarely. Mostly on my allotek commandos because prof 5 allotek placons with a damage mod on a commando can OHKO untanked shield LAVs. Lucent Echelon channel co-ordinator - Gal FW You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Fibo Gjenn UNIVERSAL BANDAGE 2	Posted - 2014.10.20 14:47:00 - [13] - Quote It's a cheap way of getting a proto damage profile on lower tier weapon. I tend to use them when farming for Isk.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 4617	Posted - 2014.10.20 14:51:00 - [14] - Quote xavier zor wrote: I was thinking of putting a complex damage mod on my scout instead of a complex shield...but is it worth it? Is the extra 7% worth it? The point as a Scout is to kill them before they turn around. Damage Mods will help you do this. If they turn around before you kill them there is probably a 50% change they will kill you, Shield Mods or no Shield Mods. However, with high Alpha weapons such as Shotguns or Nova Knives, if Damage modes does not decrease the number of hits it takes to kill them, then go for the Shields. You will either have to run the numbers, or test it in the field. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Chief-Shotty WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 309	Posted - 2014.10.20 15:03:00 - [15] - Quote I used to run damage mods on my min assault but realized i survive encounters more with shield extenders and just rely on the extra damage through the clip boost. However, that is not true for my min commandos as I usually have Combat Rifle + Swarm/Mass Driver combo. Having dual stacked damage mods on commando is fun with the insane dps and alpha for those weapons. I think dual stacked damage mods for the Mass Drivers pushes nearly 200 hp splash damage plus the already non-penalized 10% damage built into the commando suit skill. Not all that tanky but THAT DAMAGE THO! 8-Time New Eden Mass Driver Champion Min Commando Combat Rifle and Mass Driver = FUN and Tears OMG the Tears!! :)
Banjo Robertson Evzones Public.Disorder. 282	Posted - 2014.10.20 15:08:00 - [16] - Quote xavier zor wrote: I was thinking of putting a complex damage mod on my scout instead of a complex shield...but is it worth it? Is the extra 7% worth it? I tend to use 1-2 damage mods on my assault gk.0. With a high proficiency skill, it helps eat through shields even faster, and because of the assault rifle damage profile, it compensates for the weakness against armor and helps me chew through armor faster. For your scout, it would depend on how you are running it, if you are finding yourself taking too long to kill people, or longer than you would like at least, why not try using damage mods for a while to see if you like the higher damage more than the extra shields?
xavier zor G.L.O.R.Y Dark Taboo 89	Posted - 2014.10.20 22:39:00 - [17] - Quote Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Here's the calculations for DPS. You can decide for yourself: I'll use an arbitrary number that I can remeber off the top of my head, for the breach AR, since I don't have the game on right now. Damage per round = 55 Rounds per minute = 428 Seconds in a minute = 60 (55 GÇó 428) / 60 = 392.33^e DPS unmoded = 392.33 Damage Vs. shields 392.33 GÇó 1.1 = 431.56 Damage Vs. armor 392.33 GÇó .9 = 353.1 Against shields Lv 5 proficiency unmoded 431.56 GÇó 1.15 = 496.30 Against shields Lv 5 proficiency + mod 496.30 GÇó 1.07 = 531.04 Total damage per second benifit of mod Vs. shields = 34.74 Against armor + mod: 353.1 GÇó 1.07 = 377.81 Total DPS benifit of mod Vs. armor = 24.72 These are the numbers you are intested in: Total DPS benifit of mod Vs. shields = 34.74 Total DPS benifit of mod Vs. armor = 24.72 Now you have to decide for yourself which is more powerful/useful to you: 34.74/24.72 DPS or 66 HP shields? Yeah....all my AR skills are V (except for optimization IV, as upgrading it to V does nothing to the CPU usage) scout ck.0 here!
Son-Of A-Gun Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1333	Posted - 2014.10.21 00:09:00 - [18] - Quote xavier zor wrote: Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Here's the calculations for DPS. You can decide for yourself: I'll use an arbitrary number that I can remeber off the top of my head, for the breach AR, since I don't have the game on right now. Damage per round = 55 Rounds per minute = 428 Seconds in a minute = 60 (55 GÇó 428) / 60 = 392.33^e DPS unmoded = 392.33 Damage Vs. shields 392.33 GÇó 1.1 = 431.56 Damage Vs. armor 392.33 GÇó .9 = 353.1 Against shields Lv 5 proficiency unmoded 431.56 GÇó 1.15 = 496.30 Against shields Lv 5 proficiency + mod 496.30 GÇó 1.07 = 531.04 Total damage per second benifit of mod Vs. shields = 34.74 Against armor + mod: 353.1 GÇó 1.07 = 377.81 Total DPS benifit of mod Vs. armor = 24.72 These are the numbers you are intested in: Total DPS benifit of mod Vs. shields = 34.74 Total DPS benifit of mod Vs. armor = 24.72 Now you have to decide for yourself which is more powerful/useful to you: 34.74/24.72 DPS or 66 HP shields? Yeah....all my AR skills are V (except for optimization IV, as upgrading it to V does nothing to the CPU usage) Gave the wrong number for shield extenders: with shield extension Lv 5 it would be 72 HP, not 66 HP. Here's some more numbers if it helps: Mod benifit Vs. shields per round = 4.87 Mod benifit Vs. armor per round = 3.47 To tell you my own opinion, each has its own use depending on how you plan to engage an opponent. I have some fits with SEs and some with DMs just depends on what kind of ground game I want/need to play. {:)}{3GÇó>
PLAYSTTION GamersForChrist 235	Posted - 2014.10.21 00:31:00 - [19] - Quote xavier zor wrote: I was thinking of putting a complex damage mod on my scout instead of a complex shield...but is it worth it? Is the extra 7% worth it? Yeah!!! 3 of those on my Viziam laser with lv3 prof is da best!!! 44/4 in a BPO Scout (1.8) 40/5 in a Proto Assault (1.7) `- Open Beta Vet - 30.5mil sp -` R.I.P Dust 514
Joel II X Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3937	Posted - 2014.10.21 00:33:00 - [20] - Quote Yes, I do.

Yeeeuuuupppp Vengeance Unbound 698	Posted - 2014.10.21 00:37:00 - [21] - Quote Depends on what you're using. You wouldn't shoot a kid with glasses, would you? .l.. PSN: GMANCASH Rage Proficiency V
Koch Rosenzweig Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 9	Posted - 2014.10.21 00:39:00 - [22] - Quote I use them on my CK.0 with a RR kalaakiota or Creodron breach rifle and yes, works pretty well. Huh, what a pretty biotic a$$. Slap
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1302	Posted - 2014.10.21 00:43:00 - [23] - Quote jonny battles wrote: run it on all my forgegun fits sentInal assault and then my min commando IIRC after someone did testing on heavy damage mods with the forgegun he found they dont do anything for forgeguns and your better off useing shield mods or presision mods [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Gentlemen's.Club 5527	Posted - 2014.10.21 00:44:00 - [24] - Quote from playing EVE for so long i am constitutionally unable to dual tank so on all my armor tanked suits i have damage mods in the high slots, been working well for me. EVE 21 Day Trial Templar BPOs EVE 2nd decade CE items
Henrietta Unknown Nox Lupos 399	Posted - 2014.10.21 00:46:00 - [25] - Quote Amarr suits, because they still have armor. Gallente too. Minmatar, bcuz ganky. Caldari are best running shields instead. Give the Magsex some love.
Zindorak G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1128	Posted - 2014.10.21 00:48:00 - [26] - Quote I used to use them on my scout and everthing but thats bad and t takes up so much space Pokemon master and Tekken Lord Gk0 Scout yay :) Pls fix SCR CCP
Son-Of A-Gun Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1334	Posted - 2014.10.21 00:58:00 - [27] - Quote Here's two fits of mine with and without DMs: (These fits are meant for solo play in fac or pub) (Both gk.0 assault) Ehd energizer 2x Comp extender Kaalakiota RR T-12 IP M1 LG Allotek nanohive Comp reactive Comp repairer 3x comp shield reg ________________ Ehd energizer Comp DM Ehd extender CreoDron breach AR T-12 IP M1 LG Ishukone gauged nanohive 2x comp reactive 3x comp repairer {:)}{3GÇó>


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