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Fox Gaden
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Posted - 2014.10.20 16:00:00 -
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Victor Moody Stahl wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:there was a time it was dominant but ccp then artificially slowed down the movement on mouse to be more on par with joypad I've said it before- to you in fact- but KB/M has never been the dominant aim method in the entire history of DUST. Even back in Chromosome, when KB/M was at its absolute peak, the top players (like Regnym and 13ear) used a DS3, and not KB/M. What actually happened was KB/M was gimped to no purpose because a bunch of illiterate 12-year-olds whined that they were being 'beaten' by a KB/M user when they were very simple outplayed.
I find that hard to believe. 12-year-olds are better on the DS3 than most of the player base.
I think the issue is the large amount of PC players who came to DUST and were crappy with the DS3 controller while having decades of practice with the mouse. Their experience was that they did far better with a mouse than with the controller, so based on their own experiance they thought the mouse was OP.
However, because their PS3 was generally in their living room where there was no convenient flat surface to place a mouse pad, and because adding a flat surface for the mouse in an ergonomic position would have clashed with their designer furniture, they cried for nerfs to the Mouse so they would not be at a disadvantage when playing against former PC players who had set their PS3 up on their computer desks.
It is truly a clash between the Living Room Players and the Computer Desk Players. The 12-year-olds really donGÇÖt have a say in the matter.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Fox Gaden
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Posted - 2014.10.20 16:16:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:The mouse outright sucks but for those of us who came from PC gaming, its the only option.
Apart from the lack of sensitivity, the sluggishness and overall feel, its difficult to select spawn locations using KB/M at times, we do not get the benefit of aim assist like control players do. We also pretty much cannot fly dropships with the KB/M.
I much preferred the aiming in chromosome and back then controllers didn't have the advantage of aim assist. It was down to who was a good aim. Even still, controllers were dominant.
Still though, there are those that will still argue here on the forums that the KB/M grants some sort of 'unfair advantage', the only advantage KB/M gives is turning speed while on foot. For this minor upside we suffer a lot of negatives and downsides.
Chromosome did have Aim Assist.
Aim Assist was taken away in Uprising 1.0 because there were problems with it. I think it was added back in, in 1.4.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Fox Gaden
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Posted - 2014.10.20 16:27:00 -
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Mahal Daj wrote:This may be a silly suggestion, and I don't use KB/M... but you may want to turn the aim-assist off and try it then. You could be used to a more 'literal' aiming system than the one Dust514 uses.
Mouse does not get Aim Assist.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Fox Gaden
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Posted - 2014.10.20 16:29:00 -
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On the bright side guysGǪ
Mouse & Keyboard will be the native interface format in Legion.
GǪ with controller support being the retrofitted compromise.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Fox Gaden
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Posted - 2014.10.21 14:20:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:TO ALL KB/M PLAYERS
So I did what someone suggested and tried playing the game at the reduced resolution, I think the lowest is like 570p or something like that. (At least that was lowest setting for HDMI connection)
Granted at this resolution on my screen, things look blurry and very pixelated but I did noticed something straight away. The framerate was vastly improved.
I played on that Gallente level that is notorious for lag and low framerates and lo and behold - the framerates stayed smooth and stable at this new crappy resolution. The biggest thing I noticed? KB/M actually felt a lot better. Not perfect by any means but the difference WAS very noticeable.
I hope to god that with 1.9 and improved performances that we can get solid smooth framerates @720p because I would actually be able to aim then.
So, if we ran the game on something a bit more powerful than a PS3, like say a PC, then we might get similar results at a better resolution?
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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