DUST Search - Militia Cloak and BPO?

hfderrtgvcd wrote:

Cross Atu wrote:

Finding a method for the deployment of a MLT cloak is a sticky prospect.
The usual/broadly applied method is to give the MLT item the STD stats with higher CPU and PG costs.
The value of the MLT is allowing players to try an item and play style without having to spend SP s that they can know if they like the mechanics before investing their SP.
This value however is defeated in the case of the cloak in that it is already exceptionally expensive to fit without use of the Scout role but, and thus a MLT version with even higher fittings costs but without the Scout role skill effect would likely be a crippled piece of gear BPO or no.

Finding another method that would still allow the cloak to be useful, weaker than standard, and not prohibitively hard to fit, all while not devaluing the merit of the scout role buff, is a difficult prospect.

0.02 ISK
Cross

give it very low cpu/pg but give it a duration of 10 seconds and a dampening penalty. Utterly useless once you've unlocked the basic but will give a feel for how it works.

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voidfaction Nos Nothi 603	Posted - 2014.10.19 22:48:00 - [1] - Quote Would really go nice with my almost all BPO Scout.
Billy Lawson G.L.O.R.Y Dark Taboo 7	Posted - 2014.10.19 22:50:00 - [2] - Quote no, absolutely no... although I like blueprints... i think a Militia Cloak would be counterproductive Silence! I keel you!
voidfaction Nos Nothi 603	Posted - 2014.10.19 22:56:00 - [3] - Quote Billy Lawson wrote: no, absolutely no... although I like blueprints... i think a Militia Cloak would be counterproductive I have Militia BPO for EVERYTHING else why not a cloak? How would it be counter productive? Most think the STD is worthless and a militia one would be even worse than the STD.
Billy Lawson G.L.O.R.Y Dark Taboo 7	Posted - 2014.10.19 23:02:00 - [4] - Quote voidfaction wrote: Billy Lawson wrote: no, absolutely no... although I like blueprints... i think a Militia Cloak would be counterproductive I have Militia BPO for EVERYTHING else why not a cloak? How would it be counter productive? Most think the STD is worthless and a militia one would be even worse than the STD. It would suck to the point that it would be useless and the CPU and PG required to fit it would be ridiculous. Then again, it would be funny watching people running around with that and killing them easily due to not being able to fit anything else.. 0.01 isk given edit: Trying to say that we should also throw in Militia remote explosives would be a good idea. Remotes everywhere... So apparently facing off against Markus Caldrone while he's in his Min proto assault is not a good idea. Lesson Learned.
Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3356	Posted - 2014.10.19 23:08:00 - [5] - Quote Finding a method for the deployment of a MLT cloak is a sticky prospect. The usual/broadly applied method is to give the MLT item the STD stats with higher CPU and PG costs. The value of the MLT is allowing players to try an item and play style without having to spend SP s that they can know if they like the mechanics before investing their SP. This value however is defeated in the case of the cloak in that it is already exceptionally expensive to fit without use of the Scout role but, and thus a MLT version with even higher fittings costs but without the Scout role skill effect would likely be a crippled piece of gear BPO or no. Finding another method that would still allow the cloak to be useful, weaker than standard, and not prohibitively hard to fit, all while not devaluing the merit of the scout role buff, is a difficult prospect. 0.02 ISK Cross See a cool idea thread? Mail me the title and I'll take a look =)
Haerr Clone Manque 1656	Posted - 2014.10.19 23:08:00 - [6] - Quote Billy Lawson wrote: voidfaction wrote: Billy Lawson wrote: no, absolutely no... although I like blueprints... i think a Militia Cloak would be counterproductive I have Militia BPO for EVERYTHING else why not a cloak? How would it be counter productive? Most think the STD is worthless and a militia one would be even worse than the STD. It would suck to the point that it would be useless and the CPU and PG required to fit it would be ridiculous. Then again, it would be funny watching people running around with that and killing them easily due to not being able to fit anything else.. 0.01 isk given edit: Trying to say that we should also throw in Militia remote explosives would be a good idea. Remotes everywhere... ^ This. It would be the only Militia item that would require you to have maxed out Core and Role skills in order to fit. That isn't a bad thing! Gimme Milita Cloak NAOW! Haerr's huge list of wish for 1.9 - 1.10: Fix mouse support.
hfderrtgvcd 882	Posted - 2014.10.19 23:31:00 - [7] - Quote Cross Atu wrote: Finding a method for the deployment of a MLT cloak is a sticky prospect. The usual/broadly applied method is to give the MLT item the STD stats with higher CPU and PG costs. The value of the MLT is allowing players to try an item and play style without having to spend SP s that they can know if they like the mechanics before investing their SP. This value however is defeated in the case of the cloak in that it is already exceptionally expensive to fit without use of the Scout role but, and thus a MLT version with even higher fittings costs but without the Scout role skill effect would likely be a crippled piece of gear BPO or no. Finding another method that would still allow the cloak to be useful, weaker than standard, and not prohibitively hard to fit, all while not devaluing the merit of the scout role buff, is a difficult prospect. 0.02 ISK Cross give it very low cpu/pg but give it a duration of 10 seconds and a dampening penalty. Utterly useless once you've unlocked the basic but will give a feel for how it works. You can't fight in here! This is the war room.
voidfaction Nos Nothi 604	Posted - 2014.10.19 23:34:00 - [8] - Quote I can fit a STD cloak on a g-1 using a basic CPU and all other mods militia except flux nade. engineering 1 electronics 1 gal scout 3 So why not? Not everyone is afraid to use a CPU or PG mode to enable there fittings to work. Im not asking for my 43 mill SP scout. Im asking for my 1.7 mill SP scout that I could fit it if it were a thing.
Miokai Zahou WarRavens Capital Punishment. 406	Posted - 2014.10.19 23:51:00 - [9] - Quote Cross Atu wrote: Finding a method for the deployment of a MLT cloak is a sticky prospect. The usual/broadly applied method is to give the MLT item the STD stats with higher CPU and PG costs. The value of the MLT is allowing players to try an item and play style without having to spend SP s that they can know if they like the mechanics before investing their SP. This value however is defeated in the case of the cloak in that it is already exceptionally expensive to fit without use of the Scout role but, and thus a MLT version with even higher fittings costs but without the Scout role skill effect would likely be a crippled piece of gear BPO or no. Finding another method that would still allow the cloak to be useful, weaker than standard, and not prohibitively hard to fit, all while not devaluing the merit of the scout role buff, is a difficult prospect. 0.02 ISK Cross Easy fix. Keep as a standard piece of bpo gear but have the cloak time reduced to 15 - 20 seconds. Noob isn't really a status, it's the online equivalent of a 5-year old calling you a poopy fart head.
Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3376	Posted - 2014.10.20 18:44:00 - [10] - Quote hfderrtgvcd wrote: Cross Atu wrote: Finding a method for the deployment of a MLT cloak is a sticky prospect. The usual/broadly applied method is to give the MLT item the STD stats with higher CPU and PG costs. The value of the MLT is allowing players to try an item and play style without having to spend SP s that they can know if they like the mechanics before investing their SP. This value however is defeated in the case of the cloak in that it is already exceptionally expensive to fit without use of the Scout role but, and thus a MLT version with even higher fittings costs but without the Scout role skill effect would likely be a crippled piece of gear BPO or no. Finding another method that would still allow the cloak to be useful, weaker than standard, and not prohibitively hard to fit, all while not devaluing the merit of the scout role buff, is a difficult prospect. 0.02 ISK Cross give it very low cpu/pg but give it a duration of 10 seconds and a dampening penalty. Utterly useless once you've unlocked the basic but will give a feel for how it works. I stand corrected, apparently it is not that hard to come up with a possible method That does indeed seem to be a workable way to give players the option to try the play style of the gear (the goal of MLT gear) and yet not buck the power curve or mess with the scout role. @Thread, can anyone see some way in which this would be OP (nothing jumps out at me but I like to get more than one set of eyes on). If no exploitable aspects are seen then this could be a method for getting a MLT cloak in game. And if we can viably deploy a MLT cloak then I see no reason why there could not be a BPO iteration of it on the market. 0.02 ISK Cross See a cool idea thread? Mail me the title and I'll take a look =)

TooMany Names AlreadyTaken Going for the gold 210	Posted - 2014.10.20 20:26:00 - [11] - Quote Militia RE. 40 kills with the most basic, cheapest possible dual-wielding standard Bolt Pistol fit...


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