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CeeJ Mantis
Mantodea MC
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Posted - 2014.10.20 20:03:00 -
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Cross Atu wrote:More specifically to the point, Is it the buff type or the numeric value which causes issues?
As a Gallente commando, I can say that the biggest detriment to the Plasma rifle is it's range. It has a optimal of 42 meters and an effective of 70m. It is specifically this 28m difference that is the problem as the RR and ScR have on difference of 20. This is a problem with the weapon itself, and I believe that the assault getting a bonus to this weapon would fix this problem. It means that while an assault is more incentivised to use this weapon, nobody else is. I so WAY more Galmandos with RRs and CRs because they have better performance in general. This is indicative of the Plasma rifle itself needing a buff, not the Gal assault suit needing one.
Longest plasma cannon kill: 236.45m
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CeeJ Mantis
Mantodea MC
49
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Posted - 2014.10.20 20:15:00 -
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Middas Betancore wrote:So if we buff the plasma rifle optimal 5-8m, what should the gal assault have with its new found optimal range?
If we adjust the range on the rifle itself, then it needs no further adjustment in that regard. I think it's current bonus is good, but perhaps if it were adjusted by a larger amount, like 6% or 8% or even 10%, then it might seems more useful. The rifle itself handles fine in general. Being able to aim down sights to hit a target in the head at a distance, and being able to hit the target up close, while still getting to actively maintain maximum maneuverability makes it a powerful bonus. This could also make the shotgun VERY good if the numbers work out correctly, but I am not an expert on that weapon.
Longest plasma cannon kill: 236.45m
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CeeJ Mantis
Mantodea MC
50
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Posted - 2014.10.20 20:19:00 -
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hfderrtgvcd wrote:while we're talking about assault bonuses, shouldn't the minmatar assault bonus also benefit mass drivers and flaylocks?
I believe it should. The PLC and Swarm are AV weapons, and I feel their universal need to fulfill that roll should exclude them from similar balance concerns for their respective assaults, the Flaylock and MD need some love too. Perhaps a +10% magazine capacity per level bonus to those weapons should be in order. Or maybe another bonus that effects their performance.
Longest plasma cannon kill: 236.45m
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CeeJ Mantis
Mantodea MC
50
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Posted - 2014.10.20 20:25:00 -
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Middas Betancore wrote:Agreed, so in feeling something about armour,
incentivise reactives and ferroscale, maybe repairers, try and promote a more mobile high repair suit, contrasting more with commandos and sentinels slow, high hp play
I think that as it stands, the ferroscale and reactive plates just don't provide enough incentive to use them over a regular plate and armor rep. Ideally, as they make kin cats, a gal should have speed to help them close the gap, but the speed/HP, and range/DPS balances aren't easy things to simply point out as having one or two problems. I think this warrants further investigation.
Longest plasma cannon kill: 236.45m
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CeeJ Mantis
Mantodea MC
50
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Posted - 2014.10.20 20:30:00 -
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Cross Atu wrote:Honestly, even the Amarr bonus which works well generally speaking, falls a bit short in that it does nothing for their side arms.
Don't ScPs have subtle heat buildup like the plasma rifle? I think I heard that it can seize up if fired repeatedly. Haven't run into that specifically though ans I haven't the skills for the ammo capacity required to make it work. If so, and the Amarr assault bonus applies to it, then that sounds useful enough to me.
Longest plasma cannon kill: 236.45m
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CeeJ Mantis
Mantodea MC
50
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Posted - 2014.10.20 20:53:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Correct. Reload and Dispersion for gallente. Reload and Kick for caldari.
Provides a bonus to every weapon and some performance to 'primary' weapons.
It also maintains the parity of the Gal/Cal having similar, yet opposite statistics. Gals have high dispersion/low kick weapons, and the Cal have low dispersion/high kick weapons. Their assaults would have bonuses that make up for their weapon's major flaw, and it applies to all of their weapons (except NK and SL).
Still a lot of overlap with the commando, but I think the commando is largely about carrying light weapons and having high damage. I can accept this.
Longest plasma cannon kill: 236.45m
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CeeJ Mantis
Mantodea MC
51
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Posted - 2014.10.20 22:32:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:Blueprint For Murder wrote:Lol and thats why you shouldn't skype with strange people on the net lolz. Did he/she convince you lol? ..Sigh..
Back to the topic:
The goal should be to make each classes more unique instead of attempting to generalize them or attempt to make them over powered; It might even help if you Imagine the RR and CR in a balance state. Yeah I like how people weren't buying into arkena and kirks crap so rather than have an intelligent debate about the merits of such buffs we instead go directly to crying to the CPM member on Skype and now we have him honestly considering a incredibly unbalanced by design buff. Charming as always I see, MINA. How despicable of me to talk to a CPM member who asked for feedback. A disgusting effort to horribly unbalance all the things ever in my favour, by all accounts. Truly, it is outrageous that someone would dare put forward their opinion. Had I not gone for complete transparency and posted the entire conversation, you wouldn't even have known that I was relevant here. Clearly a shadowy and nefarious attempt to make something overpowered! Sarcasm aside, do you have a personal problem here? When did Kirk or I post something incendiary? Do you simply disagree with our opinions? If it's simply that you disagree, I suggest trying to find a more civil way of disagreeing in future. A simple 'I disagree' would have sufficed. If you feel the need to insult people merely because they don't share your opinion, perhaps you're not ready for civil discussion? If you have a problem with what I said to Cross, explain what it is, rather than bitching about me expressing my opinion.
How about we stop the name calling and finger pointing on both sides (your above post is doing the same accusatory stuff you dislike) and keep this on topic. Personal stuff derails too many forum topics. You can send in-game PMs or exchange numbers to talk about personal issues. Or even start a new topic (not advised). This thread is going somewhere, and I for one would like to see continued discussion and useful input on things.
Longest plasma cannon kill: 236.45m
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