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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
5498
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Posted - 2014.10.18 00:11:00 -
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We've seen them, now we want them.
Any chance they can be coded in for 1.9 or possibly 2.0?
The AV creed,
"We don't do it because it's easy; we do it because it's hard!"
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
9777
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Posted - 2014.10.18 00:23:00 -
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I'm not sure they even have a working model yet. Those look like concept arts rather than models. You also have to account for things like damage type, how the knives are held, do they thrust or slash, do they use charge attacks, can they be thrown, etc. Every knife would need to be unique to their race. Something to set them apart from the other knives. I don't think CCP has that down yet unless CCP Rattati can tell us otherwise.
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Victor Moody Stahl
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
23
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Posted - 2014.10.18 01:27:00 -
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I just want to chime in that the Amarr knives should not, in fact, be knives.
It should be more like the Roman gladius. Because crusading space knights need swords, not knives.
You may now carry on. |
DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
5499
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Posted - 2014.10.18 01:47:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:I'm not sure they even have a working model yet. Those look like concept arts rather than models. You also have to account for things like damage type, how the knives are held, do they thrust or slash, do they use charge attacks, can they be thrown, etc. Every knife would need to be unique to their race. Something to set them apart from the other knives. I don't think CCP has that down yet unless CCP Rattati can tell us otherwise.
They probably have a general idea on what they're suppose to do even if there are no hard stats.
I would like CCP to chime in on this though. Please.
The AV creed,
"We don't do it because it's easy; we do it because it's hard!"
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Billy Jr
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
28
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Posted - 2014.10.18 10:54:00 -
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Even if they have working models and they fit their race's style, there's still another thing or two to worry about. How quickly does the Minmitar Scout's bonus get changed to the Minmitar knives, and do we get to have back the SP we put into the Caldari variant to put into another race's? |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
3723
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Posted - 2014.10.18 11:48:00 -
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Victor Moody Stahl wrote:I just want to chime in that the Amarr knives should not, in fact, be knives. It should be more like the Roman gladius. Because crusading space knights need swords, not knives. You may now carry on.
Meter long golden kukhri.
Screw your gladius.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
5500
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Posted - 2014.10.18 13:17:00 -
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Billy Jr wrote:Even if they have working models and they fit their race's style, there's still another thing or two to worry about. How quickly does the Minmitar Scout's bonus get changed to the Minmitar knives, and do we get to have back the SP we put into the Caldari variant to put into another race's?
If there's any justice in this world, immediately.
The AV creed,
"We don't do it because it's easy; we do it because it's hard!"
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
9786
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Posted - 2014.10.18 14:26:00 -
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Billy Jr wrote:Even if they have working models and they fit their race's style, there's still another thing or two to worry about. How quickly does the Minmitar Scout's bonus get changed to the Minmitar knives, and do we get to have back the SP we put into the Caldari variant to put into another race's?
I remember CCP giving out partial SP refunds for racial parity of the heavy and scout suits rather than a full-on respect. They could be willing to do the same thing for the knives. If not, then the least they can do is change or amend the Minmatar Scout suit bonus to have a blanket bonus to all knives. Since right now Minmatar Scouts get damage bonus to nova knives, that's already a blanket bonus in of itself. Just change the name from "nova knives" to "all knives".
Other Suits:
Amarr Scout would get bonus to slash speed.
Caldari Scout would get bonus to charge time.
Gallente Scout would get bonus to max lunge distance.
What do you think?
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
3723
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Posted - 2014.10.18 14:32:00 -
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RESPEC. short for "respecialization." There is no goddamn T in there anywhere. |
Billy Jr
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
28
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Posted - 2014.10.18 15:29:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Billy Jr wrote:Even if they have working models and they fit their race's style, there's still another thing or two to worry about. How quickly does the Minmitar Scout's bonus get changed to the Minmitar knives, and do we get to have back the SP we put into the Caldari variant to put into another race's? I remember CCP giving out partial SP refunds for racial parity of the heavy and scout suits rather than a full-on respect. They could be willing to do the same thing for the knives. If not, then the least they can do is change or amend the Minmatar Scout suit bonus to have a blanket bonus to all knives. Since right now Minmatar Scouts get damage bonus to nova knives, that's already a blanket bonus in of itself. Just change the name from "nova knives" to "all knives". Other Suits: Amarr Scout would get bonus to slash speed. Caldari Scout would get bonus to charge time. Gallente Scout would get bonus to max lunge distance. What do you think?
I think the other scouts will just have to use their naturally better ewar to get in close and leave the bonuses to knives to the Minmitar. But, that might just be me wanting to keep knives best on my preferred suit. |
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
5500
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Posted - 2014.10.18 15:32:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:RESPEC. short for "respecialization." There is no goddamn T in there anywhere.
Spell check. Haters gonna hate.
The AV creed,
"We don't do it because it's easy; we do it because it's hard!"
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Teeee Bone
C0M8AT V3T3RANS
125
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Posted - 2014.10.18 16:29:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:We've seen them, now we want them. Any chance they can be coded in for 1.9 or possibly 2.0?
It's a knife. Not a weapon technology. I think one is fine.
I love the smell of orbital support in the morning!!!
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
5500
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Posted - 2014.10.18 16:45:00 -
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Teeee Bone wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:We've seen them, now we want them. Any chance they can be coded in for 1.9 or possibly 2.0? It's a knife. Not a weapon technology. I think one is fine. Did you just call a knife not a weapon?
I'm done. I just can't.
The AV creed,
"We don't do it because it's easy; we do it because it's hard!"
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Victor Moody Stahl
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
23
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Posted - 2014.10.18 17:57:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Meter long golden kukhri.
Screw your gladius.
No, see, what we need is a beautiful Amarrian gladius, and a rusty Matari kukri.
Because few are the Amarrians who will sleep well at night with the thought of a Minja with a rusty kukri sneaking up on them from behind....
Teeee Bone wrote:It's a knife. Not a weapon technology. I think one is fine.
You must be new here, because CCP showed concept art of the racial knives. So obviously the intent is that we would eventually have a melee weapon for every race.
Also, I agree with DeadlyAztec. Knives are weapons, and having more would be awesome. |
Ahkhomi Cypher
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
272
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Posted - 2014.10.18 20:29:00 -
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Guide us Rattati
If these racial knives are variants of the "Nova Knife" skillbook then cool, whatever, situation averted.
if they are separated and i gotta throw more SP at matari knives (imma guess the scout skill is gonna be matari NK specific) then would i be entitled to a NK refund?
Please remember fatties had to be Amarr before if they wanted to be fat.
They got that back so they could be fat in their preferred faction.
Then if there is a NK refund there WILL be the inevitable outcry for a rifle refund because people threw SP at stuff before CRs/RRs were available.
Just putting that out there.
Guide us DUST Jesus
Opus Arcana | TBD Ringleader
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
4176
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Posted - 2014.10.18 22:02:00 -
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I just want Amarrian power gloves
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LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
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Victor Moody Stahl
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
23
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Posted - 2014.10.18 22:59:00 -
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Ahkhomi Cypher wrote:Guide us Rattati
If these racial knives are variants of the "Nova Knife" skillbook then cool, whatever, situation averted.
if they are separated and i gotta throw more SP at matari knives (imma guess the scout skill is gonna be matari NK specific) then would i be entitled to a NK refund?
Please remember fatties had to be Amarr before if they wanted to be fat.
They got that back so they could be fat in their preferred faction.
Then if there is a NK refund there WILL be the inevitable outcry for a rifle refund because people threw SP at stuff before CRs/RRs were available.
Just putting that out there.
Guide us DUST Jesus
I just want to point out that its more than likely that all of the melee weapons- assuming they are all knives and/or shortsword analogues (like a gladius, kukri, machete, dagger, dirk, karambit, or whatever-else they use as a base)- will almost certainly fall under the same general skills of "Nova Knives".
It doesn't really make sense that they would do something else unless the different racial melee weapons are radically different from each other- like spears and gauntlets, in addition to knives, for example. |
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