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Spkr4theDead
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Posted - 2014.10.17 13:42:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Inb4threadlock or devs ignore.
This thread defines the term "badpost."
Your screaming provides no useful information or evidence to back your claims.
Your sense of moral outrage and accusation fail to pass muster.
Make a new thread with less accusative ranting , a constructive title and evidence and it will be taken more seriously.
As it stands this is exactly the kind of thing that gets zero results.
Oh, here you are again, keeping the infantry status quo.
It was pilots that provided the math to prove the TAC AR was on par with a large blaster.
It was pilots that provided the math to show how much damage swarms would do before reloading when a certain buff was coming.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Spkr4theDead
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Posted - 2014.10.17 13:45:00 -
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Lazer Fo Cused wrote:Derrith Erador wrote:If you're going to complain about the state of ADS, please do so in a better manner than that. Whining about the changes will change nothing. And to be honest, the only legit complaint you have is about the ROF.
3. Complaining is classed as whining anyways it seems by everyone and anyone
It's only classed as complaining when it's about how bad a state vehicles are in. If it's infantry, it's a legitimate concern and will be looked at ASAP.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Spkr4theDead
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Posted - 2014.10.17 13:47:00 -
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Derrith Erador wrote:Lazer Fo Cused wrote:Derrith Erador wrote:If you're going to complain about the state of ADS, please do so in a better manner than that. Whining about the changes will change nothing. And to be honest, the only legit complaint you have is about the ROF.
1. Thats your opinion 2. I did a list 3. Complaining is classed as whining anyways it seems by everyone and anyone 4. Your right that nothing will change, never does, if its anything to do with vehicles if wont ever change for the better 5. Legit complaint, again your opinion, but i find that if you are going to change things test them out, test each of the changes on there own ie AB changes 1st, then swarms speeds next, discuss with community and dont pull numbers out of your arse the day before the hotfix also helps 1) Well, you're entitled to your opinion as well. Even if your opinion is wrong  (sorry, I had to do that. Been keeping that punchline stored for a while) 2) I've done my fair share of lists too. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2377325#post2377325https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2395459#post2395459https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2350873#post2350873And research is in there as well 3) Try putting math in your threads, usually cancels it out. 4) Maybe, maybe not. 5) I refer you to #2 (hehe number two)
An opinion cannot be wrong. An Alaska resident can go to California and say it's too hot, that's an opinion. Someone can say the sun revolves around the earth, well, that's not opinion, that's plain wrong as was proven with science.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Posted - 2014.10.17 13:51:00 -
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Gyn Wallace wrote:Apparently people write in enumerated lists now, so:
1. In your experience as an ADS pilot, what's your kill/death ratio now? Has it dropped under 6:1? Are you an under-average pilot, or do you have a K/D ratio that suggests that ADS pilots aren't underpowered?
There really isn't a third option, given that the ADS pilot stats haven't fallen to where any reasonable person would consider the ADS underpowered, in the absence of a better argument than you've presented.
This isn't MAG, there's no way to tell how many kills you have with a certain weapon or vehicle/turret.
2. I appreciate that you regret the loss of the days when the average ADS pilot's K/D ratio was 20:1, but can you understand why the rest of us didn't think that was particularly balanced?
If you think ADS pilots had a K/D of 20:1, then you weren't doing AV right. Plus, any slight bump against anything would cost the ship at least 1000 shield, if not more. Even landings are risky, which you wouldn't know, because you don't fly.
3. How would you balance the ADS, without returning to those days of ADS's with 20:1 average K/D ratios? Few of us are going to support a return to clearly over-powered ADSs.
Yet everybody was fine when the Cal logi and TAC ARs were OP, and screamed bloody murder when they were getting nerfed. Hell, Babar made his own thread when they were nerfing contact grenades, claiming his entire style of play was getting nerfed and that he was going to stop playing the game. Well, he didn't leave, and I had to suffer through his bad posts for longer.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Spkr4theDead
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Posted - 2014.10.17 13:55:00 -
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emm kay wrote:Gyn Wallace wrote:Apparently people write in enumerated lists now, so:
1. In your experience as an ADS pilot, what's your kill/death ratio now? Has it dropped under 6:1? Are you an under-average pilot, or do you have a K/D ratio that suggests that ADS pilots aren't underpowered?
There really isn't a third option, given that the ADS pilot stats haven't fallen to where any reasonable person would consider the ADS underpowered, in the absence of a better argument than you've presented.
2. I appreciate that you regret the loss of the days when the average ADS pilot's K/D ratio was 20:1, but can you understand why the rest of us didn't think that was particularly balanced?
3. How would you balance the ADS, without returning to those days of ADS's with 20:1 average K/D ratios? Few of us are going to support a return to clearly over-powered ADSs. I am an ADS pilot. 1) the only time I get above 1.0 on a game is when there is NO AV. any form of AV is now a death sentance to all dropships. 2)somewhat. then again, back in those days, a good ADS was 700k-1m/fit. and as for ISKwise effeciency, ADS was the worst way to go, even for pilots 3) well, first off Buff the ADs's tank. I think that a 20% increase in EHP is fair. Next add a low slot to both the Python and the Incubus. It makes NO sense that the ADS has less slots than the MLT dropships. Decrease swarm speed. increase swarm lock range. decrease sound made. Decrease forge gun knock back. Increase glow on PLC projectile. see? no damage tweaks. nobody complains of a nerf (maybe swarm launchers).
Decrease sound made? Already half the time, you don't hear them coming. 40-50% of the time, you don't see them. I've been right behind boxes, watch some scout jump 30ft into the air, release a volley, and am dumbfounded watching the box rock back and forth from invisible missiles coming at me. And this is pretty close range, too.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Posted - 2014.10.17 13:57:00 -
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Derrith Erador wrote:emm kay wrote:Gyn Wallace wrote:Apparently people write in enumerated lists now, so:
1. In your experience as an ADS pilot, what's your kill/death ratio now? Has it dropped under 6:1? Are you an under-average pilot, or do you have a K/D ratio that suggests that ADS pilots aren't underpowered?
There really isn't a third option, given that the ADS pilot stats haven't fallen to where any reasonable person would consider the ADS underpowered, in the absence of a better argument than you've presented.
2. I appreciate that you regret the loss of the days when the average ADS pilot's K/D ratio was 20:1, but can you understand why the rest of us didn't think that was particularly balanced?
3. How would you balance the ADS, without returning to those days of ADS's with 20:1 average K/D ratios? Few of us are going to support a return to clearly over-powered ADSs. I am an ADS pilot. 1) the only time I get above 1.0 on a game is when there is NO AV. any form of AV is now a death sentance to all dropships. 2)somewhat. then again, back in those days, a good ADS was 700k-1m/fit. and as for ISKwise effeciency, ADS was the worst way to go, even for pilots 3) well, first off Buff the ADs's tank. I think that a 20% increase in EHP is fair. Next add a low slot to both the Python and the Incubus. It makes NO sense that the ADS has less slots than the MLT dropships. Decrease swarm speed. increase swarm lock range. decrease sound made. Decrease forge gun knock back. Increase glow on PLC projectile. see? no damage tweaks. nobody complains of a nerf (maybe swarm launchers). No, just no.
Of course not, because you have to keep your status quo.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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