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shaman oga SHlT Happens When You Party Naked 2928	Posted - 2014.10.15 20:59:00 - [1] - Quote Ban me now. S.H.W.Y.P.N.
Songs of Seraphim Murphys-Law 2	Posted - 2014.10.15 21:03:00 - [2] - Quote Caldari scout hit box is fine. So are all the other scouts for that matter. Try an assault rifle on them (hip fire a GEK and they're gone).
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 3738	Posted - 2014.10.15 21:06:00 - [3] - Quote Songs of Seraphim wrote: Try an assault rifle on them (hip fire a GEK and they're gone). I don't know about their hitbox being fine... but I can confirm that using a weapon like an AScR or AR will bypass the broken hotbox issues they have. My advice to you, playa...
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1701	Posted - 2014.10.15 21:17:00 - [4] - Quote Their hitbox is just fine. Your aiming, apparently, is not. If you can't keep up with a fast strafing suit (hint:it's not just cal scout), use a weapon with a faster fire rate and/or learn to aim better.
shaman oga SHlT Happens When You Party Naked 2931	Posted - 2014.10.15 21:20:00 - [5] - Quote LoL @calscout defending their bugged crutch. S.H.W.Y.P.N.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1702	Posted - 2014.10.15 21:21:00 - [6] - Quote And what if I run the Amarr Scout (or a Min or a Gal Scout with ferroscale) and do the same thing? Try it & see. The key is speed (along with 350+ shields) not some made up problem with the Cal Scout hitbox. Take away the perceived "crutch" if you want, but it won't solve the "how do I hit a fast mover while experiencing slow frame rate" problem that Dust suffers from.
jerrmy12 kahoalii G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1648	Posted - 2014.10.15 21:26:00 - [7] - Quote shaman oga wrote: Ban me now. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PetqKh7lr8g Closed beta vet. Call me TrolLuna or Trollmare Moon, Reference link
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 17233	Posted - 2014.10.15 21:34:00 - [8] - Quote Confirming Confirmation Bias. What next? heavy female hitbox smaller than male ones? CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Assault Rifles =// Unlocked
shaman oga SHlT Happens When You Party Naked 2931	Posted - 2014.10.15 21:40:00 - [9] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Confirming Confirmation Bias. What next? heavy female hitbox smaller than male ones? Next? CPM actually playing the game... S.H.W.Y.P.N.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1702	Posted - 2014.10.15 21:41:00 - [10] - Quote What about me? I play every day. If you'd like, you can send me an invite right now, in game, and I'll show you how incorrect you are. Leadfoot10 standing by....

hfderrtgvcd 802	Posted - 2014.10.15 21:57:00 - [11] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: Their hitbox is just fine. Your aiming, apparently, is not. If you can't keep up with a fast strafing suit (hint:it's not just cal scout), use a weapon with a faster fire rate and/or learn to aim better. If you still can't kill them, try an explosive like a cooked nade or a RE or, the bane of all scout suits, the MD. go to 0:37 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNGM-RgxVHs&list=UUPEDnyW3VLCVue8my3DxMkg not sure if it is the shotgun or the scout, but still kind of amusing. Just for referecne, the first three kills are examples of hit detection working. You can't fight in here! This is the war room.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1702	Posted - 2014.10.15 22:10:00 - [12] - Quote Hey, that's me! Dying, of course! First time I saw myself die in the 3rd person....and if I had a dollar every time a shotgun scout got me hacking, I'd be a rich clone.
hfderrtgvcd 805	Posted - 2014.10.15 22:11:00 - [13] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: Hey, that's me! Dying, of course! First time I saw myself die in the 3rd person....and if I had a dollar every time a shotgun scout got me hacking, I'd be a rich clone. no comment on the first shot clearly not doing full damage to your cal scout? You can't fight in here! This is the war room.
Orber Gen Academy Inferno E-R-A 215	Posted - 2014.10.15 22:14:00 - [14] - Quote DUST hit detection is a joke - there is no such thing, like a "hit detection" in this game, it's only random http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNGM-RgxVHs&list=UUPEDnyW3VLCVue8my3DxMkg#t=138 If a only have a capture hardware, I could make a lot of vids where u spare half of the clip and do zero damage
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1702	Posted - 2014.10.15 22:16:00 - [15] - Quote hfderrtgvcd wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: Hey, that's me! Dying, of course! First time I saw myself die in the 3rd person....and if I had a dollar every time a shotgun scout got me hacking, I'd be a rich clone. no comment on the first shot clearly not doing full damage to your cal scout? Yeah, you missed. A stationary target. And I didn't even flinch. I'd like to think it was courage, but the real story is I'm deaf in my left ear.
hfderrtgvcd 805	Posted - 2014.10.15 22:22:00 - [16] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: hfderrtgvcd wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: Hey, that's me! Dying, of course! First time I saw myself die in the 3rd person....and if I had a dollar every time a shotgun scout got me hacking, I'd be a rich clone. no comment on the first shot clearly not doing full damage to your cal scout? Yeah, you missed. A stationary target. And I didn't even flinch. I'm deaf in my left ear, by the way. first of all, that's not me. Second of all, lol. Anyone can see that more than half the reticule is over your body yet the shot only does about 50 damage, when it should have done at least 200. Pause it and see for yourself. Defend your crutch more. You can't fight in here! This is the war room.
Songs of Seraphim Murphys-Law 3	Posted - 2014.10.15 22:23:00 - [17] - Quote shaman oga wrote: LoL @calscout defending their bugged crutch. actually not a Cal scout or any scout for that matter Maybe try aiming at them? Their small hitbox and their speed causes issues when you encounter them in close quarters. That's about it. Now quit crying. -.-
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1702	Posted - 2014.10.15 22:25:00 - [18] - Quote hfderrtgvcd wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: hfderrtgvcd wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: Hey, that's me! Dying, of course! First time I saw myself die in the 3rd person....and if I had a dollar every time a shotgun scout got me hacking, I'd be a rich clone. no comment on the first shot clearly not doing full damage to your cal scout? Yeah, you missed. A stationary target. And I didn't even flinch. I'm deaf in my left ear, by the way. first of all, that's not me. Second of all, lol. Anyone can see that more than half the reticule is over your body yet the shot only does about 50 damage, when it should have done at least 200. Pause it and see for yourself. Defend your crutch more. The reticule was white when the shot was fired. I presume that's a miss and not "more than half the reticule" being over my body. I don't use a shotgun, so I can't say more than that, but I've sure died to them a lot. If you're going to cry they're a crutch, come play with me right now and watch me do the same thing (strafe through slow firing weapons) in my Amarr scout. Leadfoot10 standing by....send me in-game mail.
Joel II X Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3827	Posted - 2014.10.15 22:52:00 - [19] - Quote hfderrtgvcd wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: hfderrtgvcd wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: Hey, that's me! Dying, of course! First time I saw myself die in the 3rd person....and if I had a dollar every time a shotgun scout got me hacking, I'd be a rich clone. no comment on the first shot clearly not doing full damage to your cal scout? Yeah, you missed. A stationary target. And I didn't even flinch. I'm deaf in my left ear, by the way. first of all, that's not me. Second of all, lol. Anyone can see that more than half the reticule is over your body yet the shot only does about 50 damage, when it should have done at least 200. Pause it and see for yourself. Defend your crutch more. Doesn't matter if half the reticle is on a target. If it doesn't turn red and you manage to get two pellets in, that's all your going to get. Two pellets worth of damage which is what, 50 damage at most?
2Berries Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 347	Posted - 2014.10.15 23:15:00 - [20] - Quote hfderrtgvcd wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: Their hitbox is just fine. Your aiming, apparently, is not. If you can't keep up with a fast strafing suit (hint:it's not just cal scout), use a weapon with a faster fire rate and/or learn to aim better. If you still can't kill them, try an explosive like a cooked nade or a RE or, the bane of all scout suits, the MD. go to 0:37 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNGM-RgxVHs&list=UUPEDnyW3VLCVue8my3DxMkg not sure if it is the shotgun or the scout, but still kind of amusing. Just for referecne, the first three kills are examples of hit detection working. The only thing your video proves is the Learning Coalition is right, you can't teach hand/eye coordination. Have you considered a career in costumed aggression?

hfderrtgvcd 807	Posted - 2014.10.15 23:19:00 - [21] - Quote since you guys are still denying, go to 2:19. Red reticule, 71% efficiency, 0 damage done. The cal scout's hit box is undoubtedly broken. You can't fight in here! This is the war room.
Avinash Decker Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 144	Posted - 2014.10.15 23:19:00 - [22] - Quote If the shields brighten that means it hit the target, but sometimes no damage kind harder to notice on armor though . It my not be hitboxes , but bad hit detection .
jerrmy12 kahoalii G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1648	Posted - 2014.10.15 23:48:00 - [23] - Quote alright Closed beta vet. Call me TrolLuna or Trollmare Moon, Reference link
Zindorak G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1095	Posted - 2014.10.16 00:15:00 - [24] - Quote This is why i hate cal scouts. They abuse the **** out of it and it makes me mad Pokemon master and Tekken Lord Gk0 Scout yay :) Pls fix SCR CCP
Mex-0 G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 82	Posted - 2014.10.16 00:17:00 - [25] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: Their hitbox is just fine. Your aiming, apparently, is not. If you can't keep up with a fast strafing suit (hint:it's not just cal scout), use a weapon with a faster fire rate and/or learn to aim better. If you still can't kill them, try an explosive like a cooked nade or a RE or, the bane of all scout suits, the MD. ^ Simplified: - git gud scrub Dedicated Scout and Nova Knifer.
Mex-0 G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 82	Posted - 2014.10.16 00:21:00 - [26] - Quote hfderrtgvcd wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: Hey, that's me! Dying, of course! First time I saw myself die in the 3rd person....and if I had a dollar every time a shotgun scout got me hacking, I'd be a rich clone. no comment on the first shot clearly not doing full damage to your cal scout? Is it just me, or does it seem that the guy shooting leadfoot has terrible aim? He was off by miles, yet he still took damage. Dedicated Scout and Nova Knifer.
hfderrtgvcd 811	Posted - 2014.10.16 00:33:00 - [27] - Quote Mex-0 wrote: hfderrtgvcd wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: Hey, that's me! Dying, of course! First time I saw myself die in the 3rd person....and if I had a dollar every time a shotgun scout got me hacking, I'd be a rich clone. no comment on the first shot clearly not doing full damage to your cal scout? Is it just me, or does it seem that the guy shooting leadfoot has terrible aim? He was off by miles, yet he still took damage. people really will say anything to stop their crutch from getting fixed. You can't fight in here! This is the war room.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1704	Posted - 2014.10.16 03:57:00 - [28] - Quote Take a deep breath. Nobody's denying scouts are hard to hit. All I'm saying is that the problem is deeper than Cal Scouts, and if you'd either run onet or pay closer attention you'd realize that calling for a cal scout nerf will not fix the problem. That, and my death in that video was NOT evidence of any cal scout hit box problem, but rather a badly placed shot. #inb4crutch
Henrietta Unknown Nox Lupos 384	Posted - 2014.10.16 06:01:00 - [29] - Quote It's not even the Cal Scout that's the main problem anymore. I can down a tanked ck.0 perched 30 meters up with a STD breach SMG just fine. (idiot deserved it) This done with one of the lesser ranged weapons. No hit detection issue there. I'll say that movement, seasoned strafing, and shield resistances to most weapons (that are usually anti-armor) just throws most people off. Now on the other hand, it's the Gallente series that needs fixing. Absolute EWar invisibility, easiest to fit (Cal scout still has more fitting issues than Gallente), innate armor repair, and being the prime Shotgun model makes it the ultimate bane of all other suits. And is the 80% of scout suits I ever see. This is an obvious red flag that too few people never realizes (or almost everyone has one and doesn't want to nerf it - 'everyone' here meaning informed forum users, not the entire playerbase). Give the Magsex some love.
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1954	Posted - 2014.10.16 06:53:00 - [30] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: Take a deep breath. Nobody's denying scouts are hard to hit. All I'm saying is that the problem is deeper than Cal Scouts, and if you'd either run one or pay closer attention you'd realize that calling for a cal scout nerf will not fix the problem. That, and my death in that video was NOT evidence of any cal scout hit box problem, but rather a badly placed shot. #inb4crutch What is hillarious about his argument is that he seems to think that just because the reticle is partially covering the target that all the pellets will hit it. Remember. There is a chance that the pellets will hit a given point within the reticle. This also means there is a chance they will miss. Unless the reticle is 100% on the target, by which I mean you see nothing in the reticle other than the suit (no sky, no ground, no null cannon...nothing but suit) then there is always a chance that some or even most of your pellets will miss. I totally agree with other posters in this thread that the issues with hitting scouts have 100% to do with either aim, or low frame-rates and high movement speeds and 0% to do with buggy hit boxes. Now with more evil.



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