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Magnus Amadeuss
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
1167
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Posted - 2014.10.15 20:54:00 -
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Honestly after a lot of back and forth, it isn't the profile that unbalances scouts...
It is the precision and range that do it.
A scout can have a permascan on a 300,000+ cubic meter area for anything over a 18dB profile shared with the rest of the squad, while cloaking/firing/sprinting/hiding/laying remotes....
That and cloaks have absolutely no drawbacks. You get invisibilty and a free non-stacking dampener
Fixing EWAR
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Monty Mole Clone
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
230
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Posted - 2014.10.15 21:06:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Monty Mole Clone wrote:any assault can fit 3 damps which forces every scout cept the amar to use 2 precision enhancers, so instead of gimping scout ewar raise medium and heavy frames base stats so it becomes a more viable way to fit.
just numbers i pulled out my ass
new medium stats
profile, precision, range 40/45/20
new heavy stats
profile, precision, range 45/45/20
you mean any suit with 3 highs.. but that isnt the case.. as gal logi with 3 precision still dosnt get enough to see a full ewar scout.. but a full ewar scout is maybe 200-300ehp which seems fair.. yet fact of the matter is no one botheres with gal logi 5+active scanner 5 unless they PC hard.. in pub and fw that most likely never happenshell even with 1 damp a scout gets under medium+3 precision at level 5
damps are low slots, every medium at proto has at least 3 low slots. i still think buffing medium and heavy base ewar stats is the better option, because it puts it on you if you want encroach on scout capabilities the same way they can get good ehp with hp mods if they choose to do that.
quite frankly my dear i don't give a damn
pew pew goes my scram rifle zap zap goes my scram pistol vizzzz goes my laser
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Thokk Nightshade
KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND
605
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Posted - 2014.10.15 21:41:00 -
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Just a thought from a non scout but hoping the theory is still valid. Why not do as has been suggested and bump the ewar up to Medium suit or just under medium suit levels and then give all scouts a solid proficiency bonus for dampeners (Don't know the numbers, sorry)?
That way they can still get the low ewar but they have to use multiple dampeners to do it. It will force the use of dampeners in lieu of armor or other low mods. It goes back to making scouts choose between HP or ewar. If they want to get down to the ridiculously low ewar, they need to use a proto suit and fill all their slots with profile dampeners to get it down there. If the individual is going to scout and wants to be invisible, s/he will HAVE to use profile dampeners in their low slots instead of armor mods. If they want to tank, go ahead and put armor on the suit. However, they aren't going to get the ridiculously low profile anymore and will be visible by others on the tacnet.
There has to be a choice. You will tank or you will be invisible. No more invisible tanks.
Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
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DEZKA DIABLO
THE FOOTCLAN
711
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Posted - 2014.10.15 23:43:00 -
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Just lower assault precision and dampening to force scouts to wear more ewar to find or hide from assault s and leave scouts as is, the fact that everyone in this thread is nerf nerf nerf instead of fix what's actually broken is why this game gets worse and worse, it aggravates me beyond belief to see how many small minded people constantly break this game with un educated ideas.
DONT EVER COMPLAIN, USE CAPS LOCK OR POINT OUT WHAT BROKEN WITH OUR GAME OR WE WILL DEFINITELY BAN YOUR ASS FOR 6 MONTHS
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
1343
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Posted - 2014.10.16 00:12:00 -
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I waited a seriously long time to dampen my Min Scout... 
Until I could stack 3 it was pointless, even 3 can be scanned ...
Increasing the db. puts me back where I started.... visible... to that I think.. t(-_-t)
The passive bonus? or the HP stacking.. something should be changed but a Scout suit should be
easily able to avoid scanning it is the purpose of the suit... undetected kiiling....
I don't run 300hp suits to be visible on your radar Vs 1000hp+ med/hvy
So tired of reading burn the witch threads ..
Innapropriate Irrelevence...
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
1694
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Posted - 2014.10.16 00:16:00 -
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Or
Have plates and extenders raise the profile without changing the suit.
Delt for CPM2
CPM1 MISSION : FAILED
Moss-delt on skype
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
1343
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Posted - 2014.10.16 00:17:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:Or
Have plates and extenders raise the profile without changing the suit.
Booooooooooooooooooooooooom
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Zindorak
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
1095
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Posted - 2014.10.16 00:18:00 -
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No thanks i like my scout as is. Decent tank and Nice ewar
Pokemon master and Tekken Lord
Gk0 Scout yay :)
Pls fix SCR CCP
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Thokk Nightshade
KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND
607
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Posted - 2014.10.16 00:54:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:No thanks i like my scout as is. Decent tank and Nice ewar
And that is the problems with scouts. You shouldn't get both. It should be one or the other. You can tank OR you can be invisible. The invisible tank is what needs fixing.
Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
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