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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Pure Evil.
Capital Punishment.
2059
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Posted - 2014.10.14 18:17:00 -
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Learning to run the **** away. Took me long enough. Been messing around with my 'Sever' scout put some cheap gear on, and tried
and failed at being OP. Had MLT CR & MLT SMG on and wasnt basically only killing weakened targets or fragile scouts. I got my rapid reload to three
and didnt realize it affected my militia gear. Good to know.
Anyway, for example i saw a target on my TAC, thought, 'Ok right as he turns this corner im gonna jump out spray him with SMG'
*jumps out and sees its a sentinel with a BFG* 'BAD IDEA MAN!!! RUNRUNRUNRUNRUN BAD IDEA WORST IDEA EVER WORST IDEA EVER!!!'
Before, i would have stood there and tried to kill him. Training myself out of that unless, its from a flank, hes NOT looking at me, and hes
super weak AND i have some potential helpful blues wether they shoot him or serve as meat shields while i run away. I avoided lots of
deaths.
I still died seven times with nine kills so its obviously a work in progress. It was fun though, i ran away from a Mk.0 assault
and he chased me lol. So if you see me running away dont hate me im just performing a tactical retreat because im squishy,
and engaging anything i cant surprise is very bad. And i have the most dangerous job ever. Uplink duty and speed hacking.
Those two jobs get me shot. Or causing me to retreat before i can set links and hack some things which sucks.
PSN Sil4ntChaozz
Hi guys several charge swipes later bye guys
Wannabe LeafinDaWind/Ghost
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
1071
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Posted - 2014.10.14 18:35:00 -
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Learning to run the **** away. Took me long enough. Been messing around with my 'Sever' scout put some cheap gear on, and tried
and failed at being OP. Had MLT CR & MLT SMG on and wasnt basically only killing weakened targets or fragile scouts. I got my rapid reload to three
and didnt realize it affected my militia gear. Good to know.
Anyway, for example i saw a target on my TAC, thought, 'Ok right as he turns this corner im gonna jump out spray him with SMG'
*jumps out and sees its a sentinel with a BFG* 'BAD IDEA MAN!!! RUNRUNRUNRUNRUN BAD IDEA WORST IDEA EVER WORST IDEA EVER!!!'
Before, i would have stood there and tried to kill him. Training myself out of that unless, its from a flank, hes NOT looking at me, and hes
super weak AND i have some potential helpful blues wether they shoot him or serve as meat shields while i run away. I avoided lots of
deaths.
I still died seven times with nine kills so its obviously a work in progress. It was fun though, i ran away from a Mk.0 assault
and he chased me lol. So if you see me running away dont hate me im just performing a tactical retreat because im squishy,
and engaging anything i cant surprise is very bad. And i have the most dangerous job ever. Uplink duty and speed hacking.
Those two jobs get me shot. Or causing me to retreat before i can set links and hack some things which sucks.
the most dangerous scout isnt the slayer.. its the one that we KNOW is there but we just cannot find/kill them, they cause discord and harrass the clones and counter hack/hack objectives to annoy/step clone flows.. so runnign away is a big part of a scouts modus opperandai
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Pure Evil.
Capital Punishment.
2059
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Posted - 2014.10.14 18:44:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Learning to run the **** away. Took me long enough. Been messing around with my 'Sever' scout put some cheap gear on, and tried
and failed at being OP. Had MLT CR & MLT SMG on and wasnt basically only killing weakened targets or fragile scouts. I got my rapid reload to three
and didnt realize it affected my militia gear. Good to know.
Anyway, for example i saw a target on my TAC, thought, 'Ok right as he turns this corner im gonna jump out spray him with SMG'
*jumps out and sees its a sentinel with a BFG* 'BAD IDEA MAN!!! RUNRUNRUNRUNRUN BAD IDEA WORST IDEA EVER WORST IDEA EVER!!!'
Before, i would have stood there and tried to kill him. Training myself out of that unless, its from a flank, hes NOT looking at me, and hes
super weak AND i have some potential helpful blues wether they shoot him or serve as meat shields while i run away. I avoided lots of
deaths.
I still died seven times with nine kills so its obviously a work in progress. It was fun though, i ran away from a Mk.0 assault
and he chased me lol. So if you see me running away dont hate me im just performing a tactical retreat because im squishy,
and engaging anything i cant surprise is very bad. And i have the most dangerous job ever. Uplink duty and speed hacking.
Those two jobs get me shot. Or causing me to retreat before i can set links and hack some things which sucks. the most dangerous scout isnt the slayer.. its the one that we KNOW is there but we just cannot find/kill them, they cause discord and harrass the clones and counter hack/hack objectives to annoy/step clone flows.. so runnign away is a big part of a scouts modus opperandai
Very true. Thats what i want to be, but i also want to be a slayer as more of a backup. Check my sig.
PSN Sil4ntChaozz
Hi guys several charge swipes later bye guys
Wannabe LeafinDaWind/Ghost
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1690
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Posted - 2014.10.14 19:25:00 -
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My flight versus flight reflex has been stuck on fight for far too long....and I have the crappy KDR to prove it.
That said, my recent forays into dual sidarm fits has helped me in this regard.
But somehow I still have occasional trouble recognizing that I stand no chance to kill that proto heavy with my scrambler pistol. lol
The "see target" and "engage and kill target" that was beaten into me for almost a decade in Battlefield is hard to overcome. |
Leadfoot10
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1691
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Posted - 2014.10.14 19:30:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Learning to run the **** away. Took me long enough. Been messing around with my 'Sever' scout put some cheap gear on, and tried
and failed at being OP. Had MLT CR & MLT SMG on and wasnt basically only killing weakened targets or fragile scouts. I got my rapid reload to three
and didnt realize it affected my militia gear. Good to know.
Anyway, for example i saw a target on my TAC, thought, 'Ok right as he turns this corner im gonna jump out spray him with SMG'
*jumps out and sees its a sentinel with a BFG* 'BAD IDEA MAN!!! RUNRUNRUNRUNRUN BAD IDEA WORST IDEA EVER WORST IDEA EVER!!!'
Before, i would have stood there and tried to kill him. Training myself out of that unless, its from a flank, hes NOT looking at me, and hes
super weak AND i have some potential helpful blues wether they shoot him or serve as meat shields while i run away. I avoided lots of
deaths.
I still died seven times with nine kills so its obviously a work in progress. It was fun though, i ran away from a Mk.0 assault
and he chased me lol. So if you see me running away dont hate me im just performing a tactical retreat because im squishy,
and engaging anything i cant surprise is very bad. And i have the most dangerous job ever. Uplink duty and speed hacking.
Those two jobs get me shot. Or causing me to retreat before i can set links and hack some things which sucks. the most dangerous scout isnt the slayer.. its the one that we KNOW is there but we just cannot find/kill them, they cause discord and harrass the clones and counter hack/hack objectives to annoy/step clone flows.. so runnign away is a big part of a scouts modus opperandai
The most dangerous scout is the one that can do both.
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
4802
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Posted - 2014.10.14 19:31:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Learning to run the **** away. Took me long enough. Been messing around with my 'Sever' scout put some cheap gear on, and tried
and failed at being OP. Had MLT CR & MLT SMG on and wasnt basically only killing weakened targets or fragile scouts. I got my rapid reload to three
and didnt realize it affected my militia gear. Good to know.
Anyway, for example i saw a target on my TAC, thought, 'Ok right as he turns this corner im gonna jump out spray him with SMG'
*jumps out and sees its a sentinel with a BFG* 'BAD IDEA MAN!!! RUNRUNRUNRUNRUN BAD IDEA WORST IDEA EVER WORST IDEA EVER!!!'
Before, i would have stood there and tried to kill him. Training myself out of that unless, its from a flank, hes NOT looking at me, and hes
super weak AND i have some potential helpful blues wether they shoot him or serve as meat shields while i run away. I avoided lots of
deaths.
I still died seven times with nine kills so its obviously a work in progress. It was fun though, i ran away from a Mk.0 assault
and he chased me lol. So if you see me running away dont hate me im just performing a tactical retreat because im squishy,
and engaging anything i cant surprise is very bad. And i have the most dangerous job ever. Uplink duty and speed hacking.
Those two jobs get me shot. Or causing me to retreat before i can set links and hack some things which sucks. the most dangerous scout isnt the slayer.. its the one that we KNOW is there but we just cannot find/kill them, they cause discord and harrass the clones and counter hack/hack objectives to annoy/step clone flows.. so runnign away is a big part of a scouts modus opperandai
I love hacking objectives and CRUs and being a pain to the enemy.
Especially when I have a team that is worth something and is defending at least one objective or otherwise occupying the enemy.
When its just me doing anything, it becomes a problem.
You can always tell a Millford Minja
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
17224
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Posted - 2014.10.14 19:42:00 -
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True art of the ninja is being able to disengage and re-engage.
CPM 1
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior
\\= Prototype Assault Rifles =// Unlocked
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HYENAKILLER X
WILL FIGHT ANYONE
855
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Posted - 2014.10.14 19:49:00 -
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teaching fear over sacrifice.
a true cherry picker.
guns* and you are.....?
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
2256
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Posted - 2014.10.14 19:50:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:My flight versus flight reflex has been stuck on fight for far too long....and I have the crappy KDR to prove it.
That said, my recent forays into dual sidarm fits has helped me in this regard.
But somehow I still have occasional trouble recognizing that I stand no chance to kill that proto heavy with my scrambler pistol. lol
The "see target" and "engage and kill target" that was beaten into me for almost a decade in Battlefield is hard to overcome.
I feel the same way. I don't beat myself up about it too much though - we've been through so many incarnations of heavies and weapons i don't even know what i'm shooting anymore. Or with what i'm shooting it. So many reflexes formed over so many incarnations of DUST that i've lost track of which set of reflexes to pull out when there's no time to think.
It's all become a giant bowl of mushed-together game-design porridge. I feel like a punch-drunk fighter just trying to land a good one through the haze before the lights go out forever.
I pray to the Minmatar gods that we stabilize our game design a good few months before the plug gets pulled on DUST.
PSN: RationalSpark
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Pure Evil.
Capital Punishment.
2059
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Posted - 2014.10.14 20:25:00 -
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HYENAKILLER X wrote:teaching fear over sacrifice.
a true cherry picker.
Teaching restraint and knowing when to back off. Or to just wait for the right moment to strke. Not fear. You mght want to try it.
But to each his own i guess.
PSN Sil4ntChaozz
Hi guys several charge swipes later bye guys
Wannabe LeafinDaWind/Ghost
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2Berries
Ghosts of Dawn
General Tso's Alliance
344
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Posted - 2014.10.14 20:38:00 -
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There is no shame in running away/passing up engagement opportunies. Ever spend in entire match observing players & avoiding battles? You can learn alot.
There was a dev blog about map design & objective placement. It really made me think about the capacity for range vs engagement. In domination, for instance, if scouts on opposing teams with equal skills run toward the same objective they should both arrive about the same time. Take this into account & start relating it to other suits/roles/capabilities. Draw some conclusions about what you should see & where you should see it, then go & watch to see if you are right.
Have you considered a career in costumed aggression?
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postapo wastelander
Wasteland Desert Rangers
212
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Posted - 2014.10.14 20:41:00 -
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Learning to run the **** away. Took me long enough. Been messing around with my 'Sever' scout put some cheap gear on, and tried
and failed at being OP. Had MLT CR & MLT SMG on and wasnt basically only killing weakened targets or fragile scouts. I got my rapid reload to three
and didnt realize it affected my militia gear. Good to know.
Anyway, for example i saw a target on my TAC, thought, 'Ok right as he turns this corner im gonna jump out spray him with SMG'
*jumps out and sees its a sentinel with a BFG* 'BAD IDEA MAN!!! RUNRUNRUNRUNRUN BAD IDEA WORST IDEA EVER WORST IDEA EVER!!!'
Before, i would have stood there and tried to kill him. Training myself out of that unless, its from a flank, hes NOT looking at me, and hes
super weak AND i have some potential helpful blues wether they shoot him or serve as meat shields while i run away. I avoided lots of
deaths.
I still died seven times with nine kills so its obviously a work in progress. It was fun though, i ran away from a Mk.0 assault
and he chased me lol. So if you see me running away dont hate me im just performing a tactical retreat because im squishy,
and engaging anything i cant surprise is very bad. And i have the most dangerous job ever. Uplink duty and speed hacking.
Those two jobs get me shot. Or causing me to retreat before i can set links and hack some things which sucks.
Just look on my Pirmatar logi how i solving situations when i supporting you and your deck group matee boyo.
I solving most of situation like this in pirate kind of way
"Ultimate Loggi since 2012 and Pirmatar Yaaaaaargh."
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DEZKA DIABLO
THE FOOTCLAN
710
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Posted - 2014.10.14 20:44:00 -
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Learning to run the **** away. Took me long enough. Been messing around with my 'Sever' scout put some cheap gear on, and tried
and failed at being OP. Had MLT CR & MLT SMG on and wasnt basically only killing weakened targets or fragile scouts. I got my rapid reload to three
and didnt realize it affected my militia gear. Good to know.
Anyway, for example i saw a target on my TAC, thought, 'Ok right as he turns this corner im gonna jump out spray him with SMG'
*jumps out and sees its a sentinel with a BFG* 'BAD IDEA MAN!!! RUNRUNRUNRUNRUN BAD IDEA WORST IDEA EVER WORST IDEA EVER!!!'
Before, i would have stood there and tried to kill him. Training myself out of that unless, its from a flank, hes NOT looking at me, and hes
super weak AND i have some potential helpful blues wether they shoot him or serve as meat shields while i run away. I avoided lots of
deaths.
I still died seven times with nine kills so its obviously a work in progress. It was fun though, i ran away from a Mk.0 assault
and he chased me lol. So if you see me running away dont hate me im just performing a tactical retreat because im squishy,
and engaging anything i cant surprise is very bad. And i have the most dangerous job ever. Uplink duty and speed hacking.
Those two jobs get me shot. Or causing me to retreat before i can set links and hack some things which sucks. the most dangerous scout isnt the slayer.. its the one that we KNOW is there but we just cannot find/kill them, they cause discord and harrass the clones and counter hack/hack objectives to annoy/step clone flows.. so runnign away is a big part of a scouts modus opperandai Very true. Thats what i want to be, but i also want to be a slayer as more of a backup. Check my sig.
Dying less happens as a natural progression and so does slaying, it requires finesse and confidence. The longer you play and the more confidence you gain , bodies pile up naturally higher just because you being you, not trying to be as good as any other player, once you become you in the battle field and it shows that you've developed a signature style thats when the bodies will pile up because your comfortable. And you make the enemies play and do what you want them to do.
Example:
I ll pick a narrow spot put remotes in it, cloak up enter the room or area beside it, shoot frantically like im surprised and run back out, they chase and KABOOM!
works every time. So start setting traps
DONT EVER COMPLAIN, USE CAPS LOCK OR POINT OUT WHAT BROKEN WITH OUR GAME OR WE WILL DEFINITELY BAN YOUR ASS FOR 6 MONTHS
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
4368
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Posted - 2014.10.14 22:32:00 -
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Your complete lack of ego concerning your gameplay has always been a refreshing flash of light on these Forums where everyone acts as though they're challenging milkman on the Leaderboard (when they're actually not.)
GG, as always Sir.
PSN: The_Rynoceros
Console Master Race
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Yeeeuuuupppp
Vengeance Unbound
656
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Posted - 2014.10.14 23:58:00 -
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I don't like giVing up because the dude has a Bunch of hp and could possibly mow me down. I'll stand and fight and if he kills me, good for him, if I kill him, I'll continue to do that until I find someone Competent enough to kill me. My mentality is, if it walks, I have a chance at slaughtering it, no matter what advantages it may have over me or how low hp I am. I will fight. (Mostly because I trade the cloak for 500+ hp on my assault-scout fits and 2 basic or enhanced plates weigh me down a bit, so running away is not an option
"Removed for hurting my feelings" - CCP
PSN: GMANCASH
Rage Proficiency V
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postapo wastelander
Wasteland Desert Rangers
217
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Posted - 2014.10.15 00:08:00 -
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Yeeeuuuupppp wrote:I don't like giVing up because the dude has a Bunch of hp and could possibly mow me down. I'll stand and fight and if he kills me, good for him, if I kill him, I'll continue to do that until I find someone Competent enough to kill me. My mentality is, if it walks, I have a chance at slaughtering it, no matter what advantages it may have over me or how low hp I am. I will fight. (Mostly because I trade the cloak for 500+ hp on my assault-scout fits and 2 basic or enhanced plates weigh me down a bit, so running away is not an option
You know matee boyo its a thingie callin' strategy, when you atack, you leave fight and attack even stronger later
"Ultimate Loggi since 2012 and Pirmatar Yaaaaaargh."
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Mex-0
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
80
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Posted - 2014.10.15 00:12:00 -
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Anything better than an adv assault I run away from. unless he/she/it isn't looking. Then, he/she/it does the jump/moonwalk dance while I put bullets into their shiny suit and the wall behind them.
Dedicated Scout and Nova Knifer.
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Mex-0
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
81
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Posted - 2014.10.15 00:57:00 -
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Yeeeuuuupppp wrote:I don't like giVing up because the dude has a Bunch of hp and could possibly mow me down. I'll stand and fight and if he kills me, good for him, if I kill him, I'll continue to do that until I find someone Competent enough to kill me. My mentality is, if it walks, I have a chance at slaughtering it, no matter what advantages it may have over me or how low hp I am. I will fight. (Mostly because I trade the cloak for 500+ hp on my assault-scout fits and 2 basic or enhanced plates weigh me down a bit, so running away is not an option
How to be a slayer:
Step 1: Encounter proto scout and attempt to engage in combat.
Step 2: There is no step 2, you're dead, m8. :P
Dedicated Scout and Nova Knifer.
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
1646
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Posted - 2014.10.15 01:08:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Learning to run the **** away. Took me long enough. Been messing around with my 'Sever' scout put some cheap gear on, and tried
and failed at being OP. Had MLT CR & MLT SMG on and wasnt basically only killing weakened targets or fragile scouts. I got my rapid reload to three
and didnt realize it affected my militia gear. Good to know.
Anyway, for example i saw a target on my TAC, thought, 'Ok right as he turns this corner im gonna jump out spray him with SMG'
*jumps out and sees its a sentinel with a BFG* 'BAD IDEA MAN!!! RUNRUNRUNRUNRUN BAD IDEA WORST IDEA EVER WORST IDEA EVER!!!'
Before, i would have stood there and tried to kill him. Training myself out of that unless, its from a flank, hes NOT looking at me, and hes
super weak AND i have some potential helpful blues wether they shoot him or serve as meat shields while i run away. I avoided lots of
deaths.
I still died seven times with nine kills so its obviously a work in progress. It was fun though, i ran away from a Mk.0 assault
and he chased me lol. So if you see me running away dont hate me im just performing a tactical retreat because im squishy,
and engaging anything i cant surprise is very bad. And i have the most dangerous job ever. Uplink duty and speed hacking.
Those two jobs get me shot. Or causing me to retreat before i can set links and hack some things which sucks. the most dangerous scout isnt the slayer.. its the one that we KNOW is there but we just cannot find/kill them, they cause discord and harrass the clones and counter hack/hack objectives to annoy/step clone flows.. so runnign away is a big part of a scouts modus opperandai
http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/546/236/0a7.png
Closed beta vet.
Call me TrolLuna or Trollmare Moon, Reference link
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Henrietta Unknown
Nox Lupos
379
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Posted - 2014.10.15 01:43:00 -
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Mmm, the usual suspect of the 'stand your ground' habit is the fact that most engagements won't allow you the liberty to escape without a considerable amount of lead in yer back.
That said, if you're a seasoned scout, you'd already be planning escape routes before even engaging, or at least that's what I do.
What strikes amateurs and veterans alike, like Parkour mentioned, is ambushing a lone red dot around a corner, only to find that it's a Proto Sentinel. Can't rely on Tacnet for everything.
Give the Magsex some love.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
13550
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Posted - 2014.10.15 01:49:00 -
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Running is for the weak.
Amarrian Soldiers stand and fight.
"We were commanded to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocents caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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Yeeeuuuupppp
Vengeance Unbound
657
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Posted - 2014.10.15 01:59:00 -
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Mex-0 wrote:Yeeeuuuupppp wrote:I don't like giVing up because the dude has a Bunch of hp and could possibly mow me down. I'll stand and fight and if he kills me, good for him, if I kill him, I'll continue to do that until I find someone Competent enough to kill me. My mentality is, if it walks, I have a chance at slaughtering it, no matter what advantages it may have over me or how low hp I am. I will fight. (Mostly because I trade the cloak for 500+ hp on my assault-scout fits and 2 basic or enhanced plates weigh me down a bit, so running away is not an option How to be a slayer:Step 1: Encounter proto scout and attempt to engage in combat. Step 2: There is no step 2, you're dead, m8. :P
Or
Step 1: Encounter proto scout and attempt to engage in combat.
Step 2: Shoot scout with yes
Step 3: Victory or death
If victory: t bag and then grenade the dead body, thus killing yourself in the process.
If death: Turn down sensitivity, git gud.
"Removed for hurting my feelings" - CCP
PSN: GMANCASH
Rage Proficiency V
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Yeeeuuuupppp
Vengeance Unbound
657
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Posted - 2014.10.15 02:00:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:Yeeeuuuupppp wrote:I don't like giVing up because the dude has a Bunch of hp and could possibly mow me down. I'll stand and fight and if he kills me, good for him, if I kill him, I'll continue to do that until I find someone Competent enough to kill me. My mentality is, if it walks, I have a chance at slaughtering it, no matter what advantages it may have over me or how low hp I am. I will fight. (Mostly because I trade the cloak for 500+ hp on my assault-scout fits and 2 basic or enhanced plates weigh me down a bit, so running away is not an option You know matee boyo its a thingie callin' strategy, when you atack, you leave fight and attack even stronger later
Johnny Depp is the best advice, thank you.
"Removed for hurting my feelings" - CCP
PSN: GMANCASH
Rage Proficiency V
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Vicious Minotaur
1214
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Posted - 2014.10.15 02:10:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Running is for the weak.
Spoken like someone with an impotent cardiovascular system.
I am a minotaur.
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sabre prime
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
609
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Posted - 2014.10.15 02:41:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Running is for the weak.
Amarrian Soldiers stand and fight.
Amarrian soldiers stand and fight from very far away. Real warriors get up close and personal.
The slow blade penetrates the shield.
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