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Juno Tristan
Inner.Hell
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Posted - 2014.10.14 02:36:00 -
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Dust is now a solid game and I think the two reasons it never reached a large playerbase were;
it was released too early, therefore was buggy and got bad reviews.
With the concept of Dust you promised the world and delivered Luxemburg
Re-release it on the PS4 market it as a lobby shooter, but as a great lobby shooter, where you can customise your fit out completely and where death brings consequences.
The biggest issues currently affecting dust are infrastructure based, it can't handle the research facility, poor distance rendering, a larger player count, lag.
Dust also has a large barrier to entry with the existing playerbase SP, so I would cap the useable amount (increasing each week) so people aren't being proto stomped from day one. Existing players would still have a massive advantage in that they know the maps and the tactics (although you should definitely fix spawn pad glitching) |
Kaughst
Nyain San
General Tso's Alliance
673
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Posted - 2014.10.14 02:43:00 -
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Juno Tristan wrote:Dust is now a solid game and I think the two reasons it never reached a large playerbase were;
it was released too early, therefore was buggy and got bad reviews.
With the concept of Dust you promised the world and delivered Luxemburg
Re-release it on the PS4 market it as a lobby shooter, but as a great lobby shooter, where you can customise your fit out completely and where death brings consequences.
The biggest issues currently affecting dust are infrastructure based, it can't handle the research facility, poor distance rendering, a larger player count, lag.
Dust also has a large barrier to entry with the existing playerbase SP, so I would cap the useable amount (increasing each week) so people aren't being proto stomped from day one. Existing players would still have a massive advantage in that they know the maps and the tactics (although you should definitely fix spawn pad glitching)
Or...Or...we wait until Legion gets put on the Ps4. I heard Legion was cool.
You know you have at least thought about cow tipping. They know, and they're out to settle the score.
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Juno Tristan
Inner.Hell
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Posted - 2014.10.14 10:49:00 -
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Kaughst wrote:
Or...Or...we wait until Legion gets put on the Ps4. I heard Legion was cool.
but that's ages away, porting dust (presumably) wouldn't take much time at all |
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kyoudai Furinkazan
1275
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Posted - 2014.10.14 11:06:00 -
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Juno Tristan wrote:Kaughst wrote:
Or...Or...we wait until Legion gets put on the Ps4. I heard Legion was cool.
but that's ages away, porting dust (presumably) wouldn't take much time at all
Do you realize what that will do to the #PCMASTERRACE types , who didn't want Dust to be released on a console to begin with and would look at that as another smack in the face ???
They would delete their EVE accounts and CCP would be ruined  .
Just the thought of this alone will lead to some verbal bashing from that collective pointed at anyone who would suggest such .
CCP would never do that to those who actually run the direction of Dust .
Don't you realize that console gamers are just not a focal point for this company ?
Shame though , it seems to be going well for Bungie , Sony , Microsoft , EA , 2K and many other companies but what do they know ?
CCP is the bee's knee's . 
Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
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Blueprint For Murder
Immortal Guides
112
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Posted - 2014.10.14 11:09:00 -
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Yea there are still some huge balance issues that need worked out and after they they do that they can launch a huge marketing Campaign for legion on ps4. That will blow up dust because everyone will want to see what the buzz is about and everyone will want to get their hands on some dust only bpos for their legion account once they get a taste lol.
New, delicious, Soylent green the miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.
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The Master Race
Immortal Guides
115
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Posted - 2014.10.14 11:09:00 -
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Yea there are still some huge balance issues that need worked out and after they they do that they can launch a huge marketing Campaign for legion on ps4. That will blow up dust because everyone will want to see what the buzz is about and everyone will want to get their hands on some dust only bpos for their legion account once they get a taste lol.
New, delicious, Soylent green the miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.
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Fizzer XCIV
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
494
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Posted - 2014.10.14 14:02:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Juno Tristan wrote:Kaughst wrote:
Or...Or...we wait until Legion gets put on the Ps4. I heard Legion was cool.
but that's ages away, porting dust (presumably) wouldn't take much time at all Do you realize what that will do to the #PCMASTERRACE types , who didn't want Dust to be released on a console to begin with and would look at that as another smack in the face ???
Do you realize how little I care about those people's feelings? I wouldn't mentally support them under any circumstances, because I'd be more likely to be squeezing lemon juice in their crying eyeballs. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.10.14 14:06:00 -
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o-O I wonder how much reworking it would take.... PS3 isn't exactly an intel or amd chip shared between the three (pc, xbone, ps4) next gens.
CPM 1
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
9747
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Posted - 2014.10.14 14:37:00 -
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We talked about this already. Just wait until Project Legion can handle itself on the PC first. If it turns out to be a success for PC, then CCP might consider a PS4 port.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Juno Tristan
Inner.Hell
100
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Posted - 2014.10.14 14:58:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:We talked about this already. Just wait until Project Legion can handle itself on the PC first. If it turns out to be a success for PC, then CCP might consider a PS4 port.
Not Legion, a port of Dust as it is now with more hamsters |
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
3676
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Posted - 2014.10.14 14:59:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:We talked about this already. Just wait until Project Legion can handle itself on the PC first. If it turns out to be a success for PC, then CCP might consider a PS4 port. It isn't the 13th anymore, but you can still make it.
My advice to you, playa...
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Fizzer XCIV
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
495
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Posted - 2014.10.14 15:10:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:We talked about this already. Just wait until Project Legion can handle itself on the PC first. If it turns out to be a success for PC, then CCP might consider a PS4 port.
Nah, Legion is a fail for me. It will be at least 1-+ years until it gets to beta.
I'm not waiting that much longer for a game that we were expecting to have a year ago. Especially if its not even on the system it was advertised to be on.
Even if there is a PS4 release, it will take at least 2-3 years to get here. By then, there will be better games. CCP will be a day late and a dollar short by then methinks.
Honestly, the only way I'll be playing trying Legion is if it releases on PS4, within a year. So, no. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
9749
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Posted - 2014.10.14 15:11:00 -
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Juno Tristan wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:We talked about this already. Just wait until Project Legion can handle itself on the PC first. If it turns out to be a success for PC, then CCP might consider a PS4 port. Not Legion, a port of Dust as it is now with more hamsters
Haven't you heard? All of the hamsters are on Legion now.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Juno Tristan
Inner.Hell
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Posted - 2014.10.14 22:31:00 -
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There's also additional content since they were working on the Caldari outpost that they couldn't get to run on the PS3 |
Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
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Posted - 2014.10.14 22:35:00 -
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A PS1 quality game on the PS4....?
PSN: The_Rynoceros
Console Master Race
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postapo wastelander
Wasteland Desert Rangers
214
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Posted - 2014.10.14 22:36:00 -
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Juno Tristan wrote:Kaughst wrote:
Or...Or...we wait until Legion gets put on the Ps4. I heard Legion was cool.
but that's ages away, porting dust (presumably) wouldn't take much time at all
Actually yes i'll take much more time.
Ps3 have more different structure than personal computers, than Ps4 
About ps4 it will DEFO better if they port Legion.
"Ultimate Loggi since 2012 and Pirmatar Yaaaaaargh."
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
4803
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Posted - 2014.10.14 22:37:00 -
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I don't think porting it to the PS4 from PS3 is all that easy.
The easiest would probably be a PS Now work around, but I think that would end up being unplayable.
You can always tell a Millford Minja
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Eruditus 920
Prodigy Ops
561
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Posted - 2014.10.14 23:07:00 -
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I don't believe Legion will ever see the light of day because I don't believe CCP has the resources or capital to make it happen.
This has already been proven out by past projects.
DUST will never be on PS4.
I believe CCP will be bought by a larger software company within a year because of said lack of capital and resources to bring these products to fruition (Valkyrie, Legion).
Eve will be maintained by the new company while it makes money but everything else will be shut down and resources absorbed and reallocated.
I posted a thread stating this months ago on the Legion forum and was basically laughed at by the fan boys. I have seen nothing since then to change my mind.
This scenario is not what I am hoping for but makes the most business sense.
Wisdom is what you gain after you need it.
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X7 lion
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
318
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Posted - 2014.10.14 23:24:00 -
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Juno Tristan wrote:Dust is now a solid game and I think the two reasons it never reached a large playerbase were;
- it was released too early, therefore was buggy and got bad reviews.
- With the concept of Dust you promised the world and delivered Luxembourg
Re-release it on the PS4 market it as a lobby shooter, but as a great lobby shooter, where you can customise your fit out completely and where death brings consequences. The biggest issues currently affecting dust are infrastructure based, it can't handle the research facility, poor distance rendering, a larger player count, lag. Dust also has a large barrier to entry with the existing playerbase SP, so I would cap the useable amount (increasing each week) so people aren't being proto stomped from day one. Existing players would still have a massive advantage in that they know the maps and the tactics (although you should definitely fix spawn pad glitching)
Rock abye scublit in the dropship, when the hull fails the drop ship will rock, down will come scrublit & his poorly constructed preconceptions about game development.
Do not contribute to malice what can be explained by ignorance.
being contradictory is not the same as being offensive.
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Juno Tristan
Inner.Hell
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Posted - 2014.10.14 23:34:00 -
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X7 lion wrote:
Rock abye scublit in the dropship, when the hull fails the drop ship will rock, down will come scrublit & his poorly constructed preconceptions about game development.
So I've just imagined the recent trend to re-release old games onto the next gen? |
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kyoudai Furinkazan
1279
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Posted - 2014.10.15 00:21:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:
Do you realize how little I care about those people's feelings? I wouldn't mentally support them under any circumstances, because I'd be more likely to be squeezing lemon juice in their crying eyeballs.
I get ya Bro , just had to point that out .
I couldn't believe some of the things that were written about console players and the who movement to PC , also some of the feelings of those who had protested the creation of Dust on the console .
Some of what was written made me sick to my stomach .
Hey , I'll slice the lemons and you can squeeze but we have to tape open their eyes .
Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kyoudai Furinkazan
1279
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Posted - 2014.10.15 00:25:00 -
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Eruditus 920 wrote:I don't believe Legion will ever see the light of day because I don't believe CCP has the resources or capital to make it happen.
This has already been proven out by past projects.
DUST will never be on PS4.
I believe CCP will be bought by a larger software company within a year because of said lack of capital and resources to bring these products to fruition (Valkyrie, Legion).
Eve will be maintained by the new company while it makes money but everything else will be shut down and resources absorbed and reallocated.
I posted a thread stating this months ago on the Legion forum. I have seen nothing since then to change my mind.
This scenario is not what I am hoping for but makes the most business sense.
Maybe that's their plan all together , to just build their portfolio ( hence the acquisition of WW and all ) to make it more attractive to potential buyers .
I think you might be on to something Bub , just hope their not selling to EA .
Nice observation Eruditus .
Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
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KalOfTheRathi
Nec Tributis
1394
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Posted - 2014.10.15 00:26:00 -
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Dust514 is not a solid game. It is buggy, laggy and has numerous map/texture issues. It is being reworked into Legion with no promises it will ever get released anywhere, even less on the PS4.
The PS4 will require enormous resources as many in the industry have attested to. Both of the new consoles are limited in their power (CPU/GPU) although they have reasonable memory systems and amounts. Porting a successful PC game onto a next generation console means limiting the game's use of resources. A difficult task for a developer group that has limited experience.
CCP has clearly stated that Legion is a PC project and that they are sticking to the platform they know well. Again, the PC.
Don't get your hopes up, that is always the best plan when it comes to CCP.
In New Eden no SP is wisely spent.
CCP will Nerf the reason right out from under you.
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postapo wastelander
Wasteland Desert Rangers
220
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Posted - 2014.10.15 00:30:00 -
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KalOfTheRathi wrote:Dust514 is not a solid game. It is buggy, laggy and has numerous map/texture issues. It is being reworked into Legion with no promises it will ever get released anywhere, even less on the PS4. The PS4 will require enormous resources as many in the industry have attested to. Both of the new consoles are limited in their power (CPU/GPU) although they have reasonable memory systems and amounts. Porting a successful PC game onto a next generation console means limiting the game's use of resources. A difficult task for a developer group that has limited experience. CCP has clearly stated that Legion is a PC project and that they are sticking to the platform they know well. Again, the PC. Don't get your hopes up, that is always the best plan when it comes to CCP.
Ps4 is basicaly Pc ergo Lies 
"Ultimate Loggi since 2012 and Pirmatar Yaaaaaargh."
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