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Myron Kundera
The Generals
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Posted - 2014.10.13 16:12:00 -
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Since warbarge strikes (orbitals) are somewhat harder to get now (more points needed), should they avoid structures completely?. I was thinking if it would be a good idea to remove obstacles when you put down a WB strike. For example, i don-¦t know if its a bug of a GÇ£working as intended featureGÇ¥, the fact that in some maps, the WBstrike gets GÇ£absorbedGÇ¥ by structures, like the domination map where the tall spire building with pipes on the sides absorbs the WB strike, not hitting equipment or players that are standing on the spire itself, or the map where you are underground and the WB strike does not penetrate the building or some other maps where structures make the WB strike pretty much useless cause it gets absorbed and no damage is dealt to either equipment or players. So, the question is this, should WB strikes be able to hit its assigned location with full dps regardless of structures?
TL; DR. WB strikes do no damage when under certain structures or near certain structures. Bug or feature? keep or fix?
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Apothecary Za'ki
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Posted - 2014.10.13 16:14:00 -
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change WP cost for OBs down to 3750-4000 that way there is a few more of them..
more readily available to to clear roofs of those pesky roof campers or make a tactically timed push on the point or clear out the ledge campers on Broken road single cap point map.
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CommanderBolt
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RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.10.13 16:17:00 -
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I wish there were other small 'things' for lesser WP that solo players could utilise.
Area scans,
Emp strikes etc...
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.10.13 16:27:00 -
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Oh **** no.
Orbitals are already incredibly strong when used correctly. They do not need to be utterly unsurvivable in the wide blast zone.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2014.10.13 16:48:00 -
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Myron Kundera wrote:TL; DR. WB strikes do no damage when under certain structures or near certain structures. Bug or feature? keep or fix? It was intentionally done, and should be kept. 5,000 WP is only hard to attain if you aren't utilizing squad orders.
My advice to you, playa...
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Benjamin Ciscko
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.10.13 16:52:00 -
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Maybe they could use a touch up on how they work because there are frequent problems such as I die to the OB then hear it drop, and some buff to splash so that you can't stand in the null cannon and avoid death but not so much that you can't survive by standing underground. Your proposal would detract from PC because in 3in 2out cargo hub people hold "C" over "A" and are willing to sacrifice "A" to save "C" because you can't OB "C" so if you establish enough of a defense and enough links you can push out onto "A" easily by OB'ing them off.
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
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Posted - 2014.10.13 17:36:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Oh **** no.
Orbitals are already incredibly strong when used correctly. They do not need to be utterly unsurvivable in the wide blast zone.
idk what your on about but iv servived orbitals before.. its a circle of influance in where several smaller circles fill and apply damage.. so its not a 100% guarentted area wipe
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Apothecary Za'ki
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Posted - 2014.10.13 17:37:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote:Maybe they could use a touch up on how they work because there are frequent problems such as I die to the OB then hear it drop, and some buff to splash so that you can't stand in the null cannon and avoid death but not so much that you can't survive by standing underground. Your proposal would detract from PC because in 3in 2out cargo hub people hold "C" over "A" and are willing to sacrifice "A" to save "C" because you can't OB "C" so if you establish enough of a defense and enough links you can push out onto "A" easily by OB'ing them off.
dieing to OB and THEN hearing it is due to poor latency as it should ALWAYS do the sound and then the multiple shots
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Apothecary Za'ki
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Posted - 2014.10.13 17:50:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Myron Kundera wrote:TL; DR. WB strikes do no damage when under certain structures or near certain structures. Bug or feature? keep or fix? It was intentionally done, and should be kept. 5,000 WP is only hard to attain if you aren't utilizing squad orders.
i still feel 5000 was a bit too high as the 2500 WP OB was the relic of the 4 man squads (2500/4 = 625 per person)
my suggestions have both previously been...
1. 3750wp (3750/6 = 625) basically the original points per player BUT now there is 6 per squad.
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2. 4000wp (4000/6 = 666.6 [ so 667 basically]) thats 41WP more per player needed to drop an OB
however i may stretch to..
3.4050wp (4050/6 = 675 [ because butthurt religious types dont like 666]) which is +50wp more then what it used to be
4. 4200wp (4200/6 = 700) thats 75wp more then what it used to be..
current orbital cost is +208 wp (833 each) more then what it used to be and i think was too much too fast as we should have tried options 1 2 3 and 4 first.. i would lean more toward option 2 because my OCD demands round numbers and 666 looks neat and tidy.
orbital use before the nerf was indeed too much but fights did feel alot more frantic and full of action where as now they feel dull and boring with the exception of choak-point meat grinders which is my basis and argument for a balance of option 1 or 2 to bring back the action and excitement of the old days with out going over the top.
ps. disclamer , not all squad mates are equal.. some may not even reach 600+ points in a match where as some may hit 2k+
PPS.
lower the cost = more orbitals = less roof campers/ledge campers = more pushing the point = more action = more kills/deaths
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Atiim
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Posted - 2014.10.13 18:06:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=155054
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Kaze Eyrou
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.10.14 17:13:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:change WP cost for OBs down to 3750-4000 that way there is a few more of them..
*gets out tinfoil hat and crystal ball*
According to CCP Logibro, they already are. 
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Kaze Eyrou
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.10.14 17:15:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Oh **** no.
Orbitals are already incredibly strong when used correctly. They do not need to be utterly unsurvivable in the wide blast zone.
I guess at that point we should renamed them "M.O.A.B." for pubs and "Tactical Nuke" for FW and PCs? 
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