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Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1031	Posted - 2014.10.13 15:35:00 - [1] - Quote we dont NEED one, but we all secretly would like one so we can... - fix poor sp spending - maybe make our sp spending more efficient ir not wasting it on things we dont use anymore (ie caldari logi, amarr logi for me) - chase FOTM -just keep a pool of SP spare.. - try new builds - try vehicles ...w/e i know id like to remove my dropsuit and weapon SP so i could just focus on - winmando -winscout - wintinel -winlogi -winassault (Winmatar much? :P) as for my weapon SP being spread everywhere with no real focus as such id go - CR, - MD, - SMG - swarms - NKs (minja teimz) and later maybe weaponry 5 for -forgeun -HMG and if i had anything left over id skill into dropships to make a tanky MCRU dropship PS. respec should be a 1 time only thing.. ie. 1 respec per ACCOUNT not per charater... for the lifetime of that account.. [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1036	Posted - 2014.10.13 19:50:00 - [2] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: No. I've spent my SP wisely. Why should someone gain an advantage over me from spending it unwisely? They will have an advantage over you, how? They have access to the same skills you do, at the same SP prices you do? Are you concerned some new player might start being competitive against you because of an SP respec? They will have an advantage because they will not have to "pay for their mistakes". I'm not concerned with any new players becoming competitive -- that already happens with great frequency -- but I am concerned with being given a respec as it is not fair to those of us who used their SP wisely. To flip this around a bit and using your logic, why not give an unlimited number of SP refunds? They will have access to the same skills as everyone at the same SP prices, right? Wrong. Because our choices should matter, and SP refunds mean they don't matter. Which is, essentially, what I'm saying. you bittervets already got like 5x more sp then the newbros who need the respec.. you bittervets got L5 in most everything you wanted/needed.. so no there is no advantage to be gained at all [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1037	Posted - 2014.10.13 20:03:00 - [3] - Quote lets put it this way.. Bittervets dont need one so they could just not use it.. the respec is most likly to help newbros who made mistakes, so they can amend those mistakes after learning more about the gameplay and mechanics and hopefully want to stick around longer and probably spend $$$ on aurum ie.. cash-flow for CCP. As i would suspect most newbros leave because of poor SP planning due to lack of knowledge because of the toxic nature of bittervets and trolls in this community.. just take a breath drop the placards and take a look at the situation.. we need players to join AND STAY.. with an optional 1 time respec this may help some of the newbros who wish to stay be more focused on a role and be more competative against you bittervets.. i know you protostompers and bittervets would love to have some solid competition again wouldnt you? we get neural remaps in EVE (faster and more focused training from passive SP) so why not let us have our SP respec in dust? since i strongly suspect we will get to RE0allocate our SP in Legion anyway. so in closeing.. a Yes! vote for Respec's* is a vote to improve the community and promote better battles through less of a skill** gap! one time only. * skillpoints spent in the right areas to get better results and put up more of a fight against bittervet protostomper squads. [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1037	Posted - 2014.10.13 20:04:00 - [4] - Quote sabre prime wrote: Everyone deserves respect. except the toxic bittervets who are the community's Toxic version of smelly old men saying "gid off ma lawn ya damn kids!" to the newbros [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1046	Posted - 2014.10.13 22:56:00 - [5] - Quote GM Archduke wrote: DrewEon1 wrote: I understand that you are not offering respecs due to issues you had in the past, but I'm sure we would all appreciate them. If you could just possibly give us the option to respec all of our skills once and be done with it, forever, maybe it would be manageable. Please consider giving us a respec. Thank you. And for anyone that agrees, make sure you like this post. You do get points for at least calling it a respec, and not respect, but seriously, another respec thread? I have yet to hear a valid reason/argument for this, and trust me, I've heard a lot of different ones. well maybe give us a respec and the threads will end :P a good reason is you had the others have tinkered far too much with numbers and stats to a point where a weapon or utility has become completely different to what the user first got used to.. and with the frequency of how many threads pop up would be indication as to how the community (excluding stubborn bittervets) feel about it.. but we could take it another way.. take scouts.. they are far too powerful and people use them over medium suits but despite the outcry on forums you have done nothing to balance this issue.. granted you guys are probably working hard it just dosnt reflect well.. scouts.. OP.. people on forum ask for nerf.. goes unansered respec.. no real impact on game.. the people ask for it.. gets derailed by bittervets and swept under the rug seriously what are the bittervets scared of? some actual competition? are they that happy being proto-bears and stomping MLT suits that they would rather stomp new-bros and make them quit rather then try to help keep the new-bros who may have made a few SP mistakes before knowing what they were doing? ps. regarding Mu.. it seems to work as intended when both teams are random blueberrys but when it comes to squads the team with the squads always seems to win and the loseing team is always just random berrys Fish->barrel much? just makes me thing that Mu may not be working as well as it should be with regard to squad Mu value.. if it goes on averages they could just pull an alt in and lower that average quite considerably to get back to stomping. [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1046	Posted - 2014.10.13 23:00:00 - [6] - Quote a respec would help newer players compete with Vets vets wouldnt need to use the respec because of the simple fact that they already got like 40m+ SP as it is.. so regardless they would end up with just a pool of unspent SP as before.. where newbros would learn the game and go a more focused route.. like the old philosophy in EVE.. a newer player can get up to speed with a vet if they train focused on a particular role.. and a respec in dust would help with that. [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1046	Posted - 2014.10.13 23:02:00 - [7] - Quote GM Archduke wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui - are you saying we don't listen to our players? Hm. Interesting. By a valid reason I mean something like when we introduced the racial variants for Dropsuits, adding a bunch of new Skills, or when we completely overhauled the Vehicle Skills. We totally should have done a respec for these updates, at least for the specific Skill Trees. Waitaminute.... you havnt listened to the massive outcry about how OP scouts are.. there is too many of them in matches now.. at least 50% of the deployed suits are scouts ill bet. scouts are OP because of several factors they can bring together in 1 package.. and 1 suit (gal logi) cannot combat them all [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1046	Posted - 2014.10.13 23:04:00 - [8] - Quote Zindorak wrote: So everyone can be a scumbag cal scout? lolno naw smart people will save their sp as i feel a nerfageddon on the horizon for scouts.. especially the cal scout. [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1046	Posted - 2014.10.13 23:07:00 - [9] - Quote Forlorn Destrier wrote: DrewEon1 wrote: I understand that you are not offering respecs due to issues you had in the past, but I'm sure we would all appreciate them. If you could just possibly give us the option to respec all of our skills once and be done with it, forever, maybe it would be manageable. Please consider giving us a respec. Thank you. And for anyone that agrees, make sure you like this post. Every couple of months, someone asks for just "one last respec" and it's never the last request. Eventually, people might realize that there won't be another. it wotn be "just one last respec" if each character made gets 1 chance to respec that seems fine.. once its used its gone.. it has negative effects for bittervets.. it as some positives for newbros like being able to compete with proto-bears and squad stompers a little more.. so the bittervets gotta actually try insted of "LULZ farming the MLT suits!" [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1046	Posted - 2014.10.13 23:10:00 - [10] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: GM Archduke wrote: DrewEon1 wrote: I understand that you are not offering respecs due to issues you had in the past, but I'm sure we would all appreciate them. If you could just possibly give us the option to respec all of our skills once and be done with it, forever, maybe it would be manageable. Please consider giving us a respec. Thank you. And for anyone that agrees, make sure you like this post. You do get points for at least calling it a respec, and not respect, but seriously, another respec thread? I have yet to hear a valid reason/argument for this, and trust me, I've heard a lot of different ones. Define valid, because reason/validity has hardly been a hallmark of this game's development from day one, and I ache to hear what passes for it CCP-side. if you read about the reason why there was a "burn jita" protest... youll get a good grasp on that. [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]

Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1046	Posted - 2014.10.13 23:12:00 - [11] - Quote GM Archduke wrote: DrewEon1 wrote: I understand that you are not offering respecs due to issues you had in the past, but I'm sure we would all appreciate them. If you could just possibly give us the option to respec all of our skills once and be done with it, forever, maybe it would be manageable. Please consider giving us a respec. Thank you. And for anyone that agrees, make sure you like this post. You do get points for at least calling it a respec, and not respect, but seriously, another respec thread? I have yet to hear a valid reason/argument for this, and trust me, I've heard a lot of different ones. how about give a respec to every one.. AFTER you nerf the scouts and NERF the railrifle that way there will be less people chaseing that defunct FOTM(which has basically become the FOTYear) and advertise it as a 1 time only thing.. and give players a good forewarning.. maybe 1-3 weeks. [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1047	Posted - 2014.10.13 23:41:00 - [12] - Quote GM Archduke wrote: I'll check in with my managers tomorrow if I can explain the 'customer support view' about this topic in detail. I would love to :) Even though I know I won't convince anyone. And I don't want to. We know you guys want respecs, and we handle respec requests according to our policies. Every ticket reply with a denied respec request also includes the line "Please keep an eye on the DUST 514 Forum and DEV Blog, to be up-to-date with any DUST 514 related news, and to see if such an option will ever be available again." shame we dont have a Jita to riot at for us dust bunnies as im sure there would be one :P as we cannot "riot" on the forums with out getting banned so that jut tells me a simple fact that we are reciveing lip service because we have no power as such. that keepign an eye on the devblog and news is just to show players the events.. MCC was plagued by bittervet proto stompers.. the sidearm event was plagued with scouts and bolt pistols ps.. you could give 1 free respec.. and then subsequent respec's could be 100,000 AUR.. BOOM instant 1000$ jeans ;) per say.. and more revenue for CCP from players who have more money then sense and want to chase the FOTM [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1051	Posted - 2014.10.13 23:55:00 - [13] - Quote maluble wrote: GM Archduke wrote: I'll check in with my managers tomorrow if I can explain the 'customer support view' about this topic in detail. I would love to :) Even though I know I won't convince anyone. And I don't want to. We know you guys want respecs, and we handle respec requests according to our policies. Every ticket reply with a denied respec request also includes the line "Please keep an eye on the DUST 514 Forum and DEV Blog, to be up-to-date with any DUST 514 related news, and to see if such an option will ever be available again." Thank you thats just lip service to make us think the answer will be any different ;) [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1051	Posted - 2014.10.14 00:10:00 - [14] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: DrewEon1 wrote: I understand that you are not offering respecs due to issues you had in the past, but I'm sure we would all appreciate them. If you could just possibly give us the option to respec all of our skills once and be done with it, forever, maybe it would be manageable. Please consider giving us a respec. Thank you. And for anyone that agrees, make sure you like this post. This is what people have cried prior to every other respec. Just give us one and we'll never ask for another. We promise. No really, we'll never ask for one ever ever again as long as our immortal clones live. For realiez yo' ! What happens after they do get a respec though. No more than a week or so later people are once again crying for a respec. CCP need to take a stronger stand against this. They've already said they won't do it, now they need to start warning people who start these stupid threads. Respecs are bad for the game. They allow vets to instantly switch all their SP into the current FOTM and then some, the go against the EvE philosophy of "your choices are permenant," and they fail to even meet the needs of the people who ask for them since half the idiots calling for respecs still mess up with their skills in the post respec rush. Just give up on the repsecs already. Its been done. It doesn't work. Its bad for the game. the only other respec i know of was dropsuits ONLY when they finally released other races medium/light/heavy suits IE massive change/addition. [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1051	Posted - 2014.10.14 00:11:00 - [15] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: DrewEon1 wrote: I understand that you are not offering respecs due to issues you had in the past, but I'm sure we would all appreciate them. If you could just possibly give us the option to respec all of our skills once and be done with it, forever, maybe it would be manageable. Please consider giving us a respec. Thank you. And for anyone that agrees, make sure you like this post. This is what people have cried prior to every other respec. Just give us one and we'll never ask for another. We promise. No really, we'll never ask for one ever ever again as long as our immortal clones live. For realiez yo' ! What happens after they do get a respec though. No more than a week or so later people are once again crying for a respec. CCP need to take a stronger stand against this. They've already said they won't do it, now they need to start warning people who start these stupid threads. Respecs are bad for the game. They allow vets to instantly switch all their SP into the current FOTM and then some, the go against the EvE philosophy of "your choices are permenant," and they fail to even meet the needs of the people who ask for them since half the idiots calling for respecs still mess up with their skills in the post respec rush. Just give up on the repsecs already. Its been done. It doesn't work. Its bad for the game. only the scrubs and trolls will ask for a respec after that [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1051	Posted - 2014.10.14 00:12:00 - [16] - Quote GM Archduke wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: thats just lip service to make us think the answer will be any different ;) Not talking about the answer, I can't change that. It will not be any different. And I have never said I'd have any influence on that Talking about some of the reasons why we don't do respecs. It's rather pointless talking about this apparently. Off to bed then. i was right then :P it was just lip service to try stop a Thread-naught from hotdropping the forums [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1051	Posted - 2014.10.14 00:14:00 - [17] - Quote RayRay James wrote: Dreis Shadowweaver wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: No. I've spent my SP wisely. Why should someone gain an advantage over me from spending it unwisely? It's not spending SP unwisely if what you spent it on gets changed. How are choices supposed to matter if CCP takes our choices and ***** all over them? Which is why I support respecs just on things that get changed, not full-blown respecs. That way, our choices REALLY WILL MATTER. You're crying over spilled milk The only skill point refund I remember in EVE in 8 years when was they removed learning skills. It wasn't a respec, it was a return. THAT IS WHY IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN If CCP won't refund SP in EVE, their bread and butter, even when they make such sweeping changes to ship design, they WILL NOT do it in Dust. You know what happens in EVE when something get's put on it's a$s? People adapt, they skill into new ships, they pull out old ships they haven't used in 3 years, a very tiny amount rage on the forums. Those that rage get told the same thing you see on these forums. It's exponentially easier to skill into new suits and weapons in this game that it is in EVE. Suck it up and quit whining. wrong they also gave SP back when they tiericided destroyers and battlecruisers [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1051	Posted - 2014.10.14 00:26:00 - [18] - Quote Zindorak wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: Zindorak wrote: So everyone can be a scumbag cal scout? lolno naw smart people will save their sp as i feel a nerfageddon on the horizon for scouts.. especially the cal scout. Good. I don't need anymore scouts. My gal scout gets the job done and im saving for min assault i do like min assault.. CR+SMG.. CR+flaylock.. dual flaylock.. dual SMG.. their racial bonus is just brilliant. all scouts will get nerfed not just cal. :P after that nerf i can bet there will be caldari assaults running like the old cal scouts :P [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1052	Posted - 2014.10.14 00:30:00 - [19] - Quote Zindorak wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: Zindorak wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: Zindorak wrote: So everyone can be a scumbag cal scout? lolno naw smart people will save their sp as i feel a nerfageddon on the horizon for scouts.. especially the cal scout. Good. I don't need anymore scouts. My gal scout gets the job done and im saving for min assault i do like min assault.. CR+SMG.. CR+flaylock.. dual flaylock.. dual SMG.. their racial bonus is just brilliant. all scouts will get nerfed not just cal. :P after that nerf i can bet there will be caldari assaults running like the old cal scouts :P with their fa**ot rail rifle. Sad that my gal scot could be nerfed. I really like it and it was my first proto suit. Can't wait to get that min assault tho ikr? i want adv min assault and finish maxing out my core's and equipments. [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1053	Posted - 2014.10.14 00:49:00 - [20] - Quote Zindorak wrote: the amount of SP needed for maxing out cores is too damn high lol that it may be but the hp cpu and pg gained is all encompassing so it is definatly not wasted sp [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]

Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1053	Posted - 2014.10.14 00:50:00 - [21] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: To op and others asking for "give us respec be be over with it": Guess what? You've already gotten it. There has been several respecs in course of dust history. Guess what else? There was a new GAEV ME RESPEC -thread the following day. On every occasion there's been new one in three days at the latest. yes and those were only for the bitterest of the vets who dont dust no more.. where as most of us are the new crop who never got grades with the blessing of an sp respec [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1062	Posted - 2014.10.14 01:40:00 - [22] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: xavier zor wrote: Why you shouldn't 1: You shouldn't do this if you want dust 514 to die quickly Now , this is my thoughts as to why it's not or will not happen . This is telling a lot and a good observation from you Xavier . I'm not going to lie , the ONLY reason that I still play this game is for the fight that those who are fighting for a refund are undertaking , I like the game and the community and all but there is just so much missing after FF from people leaving to the changes ( they were needed ) and the simple blandness of the present environment . If this doesn't happen , I can do nothing but just fade away and no you can't have my ISK's either . i agree.. i jsut had an awesome fight in FW.. joined when we had lost shields and enemy had 4/5 shield still.. i swing into action with tactical uplinks and Point camping like a bawss and we close the gap and JUST snag victory from the ajws of defeat as both MCC's were 0/0 and 1 hit from destruction but our MCC got its hit in first and we won! i tell ya.. FW is better then pub.. just a shame i got screwed on the salvage at the end.. 17/1 and i only got a basic presision and 1 complex shield modual.. too meny people running BPOs! D: [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1062	Posted - 2014.10.14 01:41:00 - [23] - Quote Boot Booter wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: To op and others asking for "give us respec be be over with it": Guess what? You've already gotten it. There has been several respecs in course of dust history. Guess what else? There was a new GAEV ME RESPEC -thread the following day. On every occasion there's been new one in three days at the latest. yes and those were only for the bitterest of the vets who dont dust no more.. where as most of us are the new crop who never got grades with the blessing of an sp respec I've been through every respec in dust history, I'm not bitter, and I still dust frequently. No to respecs. Even if they give one there will be another "new crop" crying for one eventually. Where does it end? Here's the answer, it doesn't. I like that dust is one of the few games out there that puts true value into leveling your character. Respecs in any game cheapen character development a great deal, essentially changing the feel of a character from unique to an undefined blob of SP or exp. If you want to skill into something else you gotta do it the hard way. Props to ccp for staying adamant to this ideal within fair reason. never heard of you, never seen you.. this is first time iv actually seen you post "Who are you?" [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1062	Posted - 2014.10.14 01:52:00 - [24] - Quote TritusX wrote: We don't NEED one. It would just be a nice benefit. Like for me. The idea still haunts me that when I first joined DUST 514, I skilled DS command to 3, then skilled Gallente Heavy dropsuits 3. Now I regret it :/ I'm a Min logi and Min scout for God's sake.... you coudl hope and pray they improve the M-CRUs and you could run a DS with an MCRU to drop your bros around the map [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1062	Posted - 2014.10.14 01:54:00 - [25] - Quote Boot Booter wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: Boot Booter wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: To op and others asking for "give us respec be be over with it": Guess what? You've already gotten it. There has been several respecs in course of dust history. Guess what else? There was a new GAEV ME RESPEC -thread the following day. On every occasion there's been new one in three days at the latest. yes and those were only for the bitterest of the vets who dont dust no more.. where as most of us are the new crop who never got grades with the blessing of an sp respec I've been through every respec in dust history, I'm not bitter, and I still dust frequently. No to respecs. Even if they give one there will be another "new crop" crying for one eventually. Where does it end? Here's the answer, it doesn't. I like that dust is one of the few games out there that puts true value into leveling your character. Respecs in any game cheapen character development a great deal, essentially changing the feel of a character from unique to an undefined blob of SP or exp. If you want to skill into something else you gotta do it the hard way. Props to ccp for staying adamant to this ideal within fair reason. never heard of you, never seen you.. this is first time iv actually seen you post "Who are you?" Don't you know bad boys move in silence and violence? bad boys get locked in my dungeon.. "Get the Gimp..." :P but seriously silence and violence is probably just a scout with NKs.. so nothing to see here [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1062	Posted - 2014.10.14 01:56:00 - [26] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: To op and others asking for "give us respec be be over with it": Guess what? You've already gotten it. There has been several respecs in course of dust history. Guess what else? There was a new GAEV ME RESPEC -thread the following day. On every occasion there's been new one in three days at the latest. ^ typical bittervet.. we got ours.. you dont get one.. [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1062	Posted - 2014.10.14 02:58:00 - [27] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: how about how racist to the dutch! [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1062	Posted - 2014.10.14 03:00:00 - [28] - Quote Fiddlestaxp wrote: GM Archduke wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui - are you saying we don't listen to our players? Hm. Interesting. By a valid reason I mean something like when we introduced the racial variants for Dropsuits, adding a bunch of new Skills, or when we completely overhauled the Vehicle Skills. We totally should have done a respec for these updates, at least for the specific Skill Trees. Waitaminute.... You are being a little bit too confrontational in your approach. You are totally right, but the attitude is off putting. its probably the stress building up because we keep on demanding something they do not wish to give us because we dont have any power or rights to protest like they do in EVE. and i have had some rather rude and confrontational GMs on support tickets too not saying names as i dont want to be forum banned again :\| [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]