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JARREL THOMAS
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
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Posted - 2014.10.12 14:46:00 -
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Yes there turn speed and relode are slow but dear lord when I hear a missle tank fire I nearly **** myself,the rate of fire and damage completely wreck my blaster maddie.
Rate of fire or damage decrease please cause tank fights usually last but with them it usually only last 5-15 seconds
But of course a decrease to damage or rate of fire would need a relode buff.
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hfderrtgvcd
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Posted - 2014.10.12 14:48:00 -
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JARREL THOMAS wrote:Yes there turn speed and relode are slow but dear lord when I hear a missle tank fire I nearly **** myself,the rate of fire and damage completely wreck my blaster maddie.
Rate of fire or damage decrease please cause tank fights usually last but with them it usually only last 5-15 seconds
But of course a decrease to damage or rate of fire would need a relode buff.
You should fear them. They're your hard counter. I **** myself everytime I hear a blaster maddie, but you don't see me asking for them to be nerfed.
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JARREL THOMAS
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
359
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Posted - 2014.10.12 14:57:00 -
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hfderrtgvcd wrote:JARREL THOMAS wrote:Yes there turn speed and relode are slow but dear lord when I hear a missle tank fire I nearly **** myself,the rate of fire and damage completely wreck my blaster maddie.
Rate of fire or damage decrease please cause tank fights usually last but with them it usually only last 5-15 seconds
But of course a decrease to damage or rate of fire would need a relode buff. You should fear them. They're your hard counter. I **** myself everytime I hear a blaster maddie, but you don't see me asking for them to be nerfed.
What type of tank do you use? Cause if your a gunlogi then your tank is naturally weak if it were a blaster a rail or a missle tank
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Bahirae Serugiusu
Vendetta Reactionary Force
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Posted - 2014.10.12 15:01:00 -
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JARREL THOMAS wrote:Yes there turn speed and relode are slow but dear lord when I hear a missle tank fire I nearly **** myself,the rate of fire and damage completely wreck my blaster maddie.
Rate of fire or damage decrease please cause tank fights usually last but with them it usually only last 5-15 seconds
But of course a decrease to damage or rate of fire would need a relode buff.
If I remember right missiles have a bonus to armor so no wonder your Madrugar is getting killed. |
JARREL THOMAS
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
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Posted - 2014.10.12 15:05:00 -
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Bahirae Serugiusu wrote:JARREL THOMAS wrote:Yes there turn speed and relode are slow but dear lord when I hear a missle tank fire I nearly **** myself,the rate of fire and damage completely wreck my blaster maddie.
Rate of fire or damage decrease please cause tank fights usually last but with them it usually only last 5-15 seconds
But of course a decrease to damage or rate of fire would need a relode buff. If I remember right missiles have a bonus to armor so no wonder your Madrugar is getting killed.
Yep and we have a shield DMG and we don't kill nearly as fast as they would kill us
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Yeeeuuuupppp
Vengeance Unbound
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Posted - 2014.10.12 15:30:00 -
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Here's what you do. Turn on your fuel injector, drive back and forth, dodging thE missiles. And while you do that you pray, you pray that it's A: Not a 3x rep maddy, B: Not an Xt Gunny with 2 complex dmg mods with a hardene
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Dingleburt Bangledack
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Posted - 2014.10.12 15:57:00 -
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JARREL THOMAS wrote: ... missle tank ... completely wreck my blaster maddie ...
And a nova knifer's completely wrecked my Sentinel.
Working as intended. |
One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
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Posted - 2014.10.12 16:00:00 -
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I tried knifing one once, by jumping on top of it.
That was a bad move on my part.
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Supernus Gigas
sNk Syndicate
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Posted - 2014.10.12 17:31:00 -
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Yeeeuuuupppp wrote:Here's what you do. Turn on your fuel injector, drive back and forth, dodging thE missiles. And while you do that you pray, you pray that it's A: Not a 3x rep maddy, B: Not an Xt Gunny with 2 complex dmg mods with a hardene
A good Missile Tank pilot sneaks up behind their prey and takes them by surprise. Can't react if you're dead one second after the first missile hits.
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Draden Brohiem
D3ATH CARD
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Posted - 2014.10.12 17:50:00 -
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JARREL THOMAS wrote:Yes there turn speed and relode are slow but dear lord when I hear a missle tank fire I nearly **** myself,the rate of fire and damage completely wreck my blaster maddie.
Rate of fire or damage decrease please cause tank fights usually last but with them it usually only last 5-15 seconds
But of course a decrease to damage or rate of fire would need a relode buff.
Would you mind posting your maddy layout? The missiles are your natural hard counter, and if they're on another maddy you're F***ed?! You're only course of action at that point is retreat and regroup. You will most likely not be able to take it out without getting taken out. |
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Operative 1125 Lokaas
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
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Posted - 2014.10.12 18:21:00 -
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JARREL THOMAS wrote:Yes there turn speed and relode are slow but dear lord when I hear a missle tank fire I nearly **** myself,the rate of fire and damage completely wreck my blaster maddie.
Rate of fire or damage decrease please cause tank fights usually last but with them it usually only last 5-15 seconds
But of course a decrease to damage or rate of fire would need a relode buff.
Holy crap missile tanks are the easiest to avoid. The one thing they've got and you want it nerfed?
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.10.12 19:18:00 -
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JARREL THOMAS wrote:Yes there turn speed and relode are slow but dear lord when I hear a missle tank fire I nearly **** myself,the rate of fire and damage completely wreck my blaster maddie.
Rate of fire or damage decrease please cause tank fights usually last but with them it usually only last 5-15 seconds
But of course a decrease to damage or rate of fire would need a relode buff.
Missile Tanks currently need no alterations to their current iterations and require of Dust 514 HAV piloting arguably the finest touch to use well without the operator being subject to the double edged sword they are.
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
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Posted - 2014.10.12 19:20:00 -
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JARREL THOMAS wrote:Yes there turn speed and relode are slow but dear lord when I hear a missle tank fire I nearly **** myself,the rate of fire and damage completely wreck my blaster maddie.
Rate of fire or damage decrease please cause tank fights usually last but with them it usually only last 5-15 seconds
But of course a decrease to damage or rate of fire would need a relode buff.
yup i complained about this weeks ago and the toxic bittervets were just simply saying "GITGUD" and trying to validate an OP weapon system with the fact it costs a bit more SP then other turrets..
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
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Posted - 2014.10.12 19:22:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:JARREL THOMAS wrote:Yes there turn speed and relode are slow but dear lord when I hear a missle tank fire I nearly **** myself,the rate of fire and damage completely wreck my blaster maddie.
Rate of fire or damage decrease please cause tank fights usually last but with them it usually only last 5-15 seconds
But of course a decrease to damage or rate of fire would need a relode buff. Missile Tanks currently need no alterations to their current iterations and require of Dust 514 HAV piloting arguably the finest touch to use well without the operator being subject to the double edged sword they are.
they arnt a double edged sword.. see HAV.. boom! no more HAV their range/damage application/damage profile make them far too OP compared to blasters or rails.. its why scrubs like duna and delboy love them
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Apothecary Za'ki
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Posted - 2014.10.12 19:23:00 -
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Operative 1125 Lokaas wrote:JARREL THOMAS wrote:Yes there turn speed and relode are slow but dear lord when I hear a missle tank fire I nearly **** myself,the rate of fire and damage completely wreck my blaster maddie.
Rate of fire or damage decrease please cause tank fights usually last but with them it usually only last 5-15 seconds
But of course a decrease to damage or rate of fire would need a relode buff. Holy crap missile tanks are the easiest to avoid. The one thing they've got and you want it nerfed?
theya re not easy to avoid.. KB/m with maxed sensativity == OP manoverability on the turret meaning even if some one flanks you you can easly do a 180 in 1 second or less
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Apothecary Za'ki
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Posted - 2014.10.12 19:25:00 -
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Dingleburt Bangledack wrote:JARREL THOMAS wrote: ... missle tank ... completely wreck my blaster maddie ... And a nova knifer's completely wrecked my Sentinel. Working as intended.
scouts dont wreck sentinels from 200+meters away with a weapon that is still as effective and devastating at 0 meters.. and if you say sniper im gonna slap you with a turbot
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Dingleburt Bangledack
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Posted - 2014.10.12 19:34:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Dingleburt Bangledack wrote:JARREL THOMAS wrote: ... missle tank ... completely wreck my blaster maddie ... And a nova knifer's completely wrecked my Sentinel. Working as intended. scouts dont wreck sentinels from 200+meters away with a weapon that is still as effective and devastating at 0 meters.. and if you say sniper im gonna slap you with a turbot
And Missile Tanks are good for absolutely nothing else besides killing other tanks. Make them worse in the only role they have and we might as well just remove them completely. |
Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
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Posted - 2014.10.12 19:38:00 -
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Dingleburt Bangledack wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Dingleburt Bangledack wrote:JARREL THOMAS wrote: ... missle tank ... completely wreck my blaster maddie ... And a nova knifer's completely wrecked my Sentinel. Working as intended. scouts dont wreck sentinels from 200+meters away with a weapon that is still as effective and devastating at 0 meters.. and if you say sniper im gonna slap you with a turbot And Missile Tanks are good for absolutely nothing else besides killing other tanks. Make them worse in the only role they have and we might as well just remove them completely.
missiles have rather damageing splash too so they arnt bad for anti inf.. and if they get in the right elevation they can Volly ADS and DS out of the air before the pilot can French their ass goodbye
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Blueprint For Murder
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.10.12 19:39:00 -
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Range nerf and/or give the missiles some arc/gravity.
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JARREL THOMAS
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
359
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Posted - 2014.10.12 19:40:00 -
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Dingleburt Bangledack wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Dingleburt Bangledack wrote:JARREL THOMAS wrote: ... missle tank ... completely wreck my blaster maddie ... And a nova knifer's completely wrecked my Sentinel. Working as intended. scouts dont wreck sentinels from 200+meters away with a weapon that is still as effective and devastating at 0 meters.. and if you say sniper im gonna slap you with a turbot And Missile Tanks are good for absolutely nothing else besides killing other tanks. Make them worse in the only role they have and we might as well just remove them completely.
It's not worse its decreasing there effectiveness I mean we're giving them + relode speed your making it sound like we're giving it 1 DMG per shot
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.10.12 19:44:00 -
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Throw up a shield hardener on a gunnlogi. Laugh at their puny attempts as you split their tank in half with your railgun awesomeness.
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Posted - 2014.10.12 19:55:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:JARREL THOMAS wrote:Yes there turn speed and relode are slow but dear lord when I hear a missle tank fire I nearly **** myself,the rate of fire and damage completely wreck my blaster maddie.
Rate of fire or damage decrease please cause tank fights usually last but with them it usually only last 5-15 seconds
But of course a decrease to damage or rate of fire would need a relode buff. yup i complained about this weeks ago and the toxic bittervets were just simply saying "GITGUD" and trying to validate an OP weapon system with the fact it costs a bit more SP then other turrets..
Really?
Missiles have the second slowest tracking off all turrets, given their are only 3 at this time.
Their projectiles have the slowest travel time, longest full reload and bounce harmlessly off of shielded vehicles. As a dedicated pilot of both shield and armour HAV I would hazard to say that they are one and done volley tanks if you close and sneak up on your foe....but logically are possibly the only turret to function as I see HAV turrets should.
Large Turrets should convey the sense of possessing a power that is not truly matched by AV (but mathematically equivalent) possessing massive fire power like the missile turret or having a much higher alpha damage than say....the Railgun.
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Posted - 2014.10.12 19:56:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Throw up a shield hardener on a gunnlogi. Laugh at their puny attempts as you split their tank in half with your railgun awesomeness.
That's pretty much it.
With between 9K and 10K EHP on my Gunlogi I would laugh at Missile HAV trying to attack me.
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Victor Moody Stahl
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.10.12 20:31:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:theya re not easy to avoid.. KB/m with maxed sensativity == OP manoverability on the turret meaning even if some one flanks you you can easly do a 180 in 1 second or less
Please, please, PLEASE stop this vomiting of letters that you try to make sound intelligent. It does nothing but make you look stupid. I use KB/M religiously in DUST... mostly because I'm just stubborn and might hate myself, but also because it's what I'm comfortable with.
Let me preface this by saying that I've only used the militia tanks, and that I suck at tanks, and used large missiles since the turret rebalance in Uprising 1.7. Now, to business:
It is incredibly painful and slow to try to traverse the turret of a HAV using KB/M, even with sensitivity set at ~70 'hipfire'/50 ADS. I often have to actually turn the entire vehicle just to get anything resembling rapid traverse. It's also why I almost never man installations as well, since the turret traverse is similarly, painfully slow.
So please, do not vomit forth this claim of "OP KB/M" when you obviously do not know that KB/M control in DUST is absolutely atrocious, has been atrocious since Uprising 1.0, and will likely be atrocious forever.
Legion can't come soon enough, if only because the KB/M controls will finally be good. |
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