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XxGhazbaranxX
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Posted - 2014.10.13 14:12:00 -
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manboar thunder fist wrote:
Idc what the trolls say, flying is hard and less rewarding than most other play styles
If I can go 40-0 in a scout, 40-0 in a tank....then why am I forced to die repeatedly in an ads that doesn't serve its purpose efficiently.... Swarms need a nerf or ads needs a buff, as proto av and proto ads It's too easy to knock out the ads alone, let alone combine with friendly tanks, fg, swarm launchers, ads and rail lavs
This is exactly the problem. people think that just because you are in an ADS you shouldn't be able to do any of this. Most of the player base doesn't even understand how difficult it is to pilot an ADS much less be EFFECTIVE with it. All they see is that their militia swarms for which they invested no sp for can't kill a highly specialized role.
SWARMERS don't want to mimando up to get the best of their swarms, yet us pilots have to super specialize to be half effective on the Battlefield.
It's all pissing and moaning because they want their unspecialized asses to be able to defeat your specialized ass in an easy manner. **** going 40-0 with a scout, a heavy or a logi as long as those damn ADS pilots aren't able to. It's a really hipocritical idea that ground troops will always stick to.
As long as CCP listens to the so-called majority in the forums, which basically mean people who are too bad to actually play the game, things wont get better.
AS you can see, you posted something that was half-way ranty but in no way false and all you get is troll soup up the anus. Ignorance will always drive change, specially if they cry the hardest. Most ADS pilots actually prefer to play the game instead of being in the forums 24/7 so they will not be heard above all the **** most of these forum warriors crap through their mouths at a rate so fast you don't know how it's physically possible that their anus isn't vacuming all oxygen of the room they are sitting in...
Final thought is, your fighting a losing battle. all you are doing is opening more cans of worms. Let it go or CCP will only witness the uneducated(in piloting), the biased and the trolls.
P.S. GOD I HOPE THIS DOESN'T GET ME BANNED BUT I JUST COULDN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE
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XxGhazbaranxX
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Posted - 2014.10.13 14:14:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:"14 potential AV"? At any given time, you're immune to all damage from 90% of the players on the field. If one or two go get an AV fit, you're still immune to most of the people on the field.
Meanwhile, all 16 players can kill the AV users.
AV'rs aren't defenseless and this is a game of choice. You don't equip a swarm on a logi suit, then if you dont want to be as vulnerable you use a commando. There is no excuse.
An ADS has no such options. There are only 1 or two viable fits that are still super easy to kill with the current balance.
immunity by choice, because that infantry can easy switch it up. They are not stuck in their specific role. 90% of damage on the field yes but only because most people are too lazy to switch to av
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XxGhazbaranxX
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Posted - 2014.10.13 14:22:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Miokai Zahou wrote:ADS is in a bad place at the moment as the time to kill is way too short and the rate of fire nerf didn't help either but I've gotten used to it.
The TTK of a Maxed Swarmer vs an ADS (assuming best fits) is:
- Python: 12.02s
- Incubus: 6.01s
*Assumes 0m away from Target
Notice that with a base speed of 50m/s, you can still escape the Swarmer's lock range in 3.5s, which is shorter than the TTK of any of the Dropships listed. The Incubus may be much more susceptible to Swarms than the Python, but I don't see how this is a problem considering how Swarm Launchers are Explosives (-20/+20). That would be like a Shield Tanker trying to take on a SCR head-on as opposed to attacking it by surprise and wondering why you keep dying.
I agree but, we also have to take into consideration acceleration and knockback of swams. Most of the time it's not 1v1 and we cannot see swarmers until it's too late most fo the time.
TTK for a maxed out swarmer that is unspecialized (mimando is fully specialized anything else is half assed even with proficiency 5) Not taking into consideration fits that could well include damage mods.
ADS pilots have to go all out with their skills or they don't fly, it should be the same for someone who wants to be capable to 1v1 them. I see King bolly kill ads all the time even before th swarm balance. This is a group of people that want an unfair sp/power advantage over a player that, if he were on the ground, would not be able to do half of what the swarmer could because the pilots sp is in vehicle skills
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