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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2014.10.11 16:11:00 -
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It's been about 2 weeks since I've informed CCP legal and GM team with a support ticket discussion request about my intention to release my Capsule UI typeface project. There has been no reply, and I've reached out for contact on social media to community team leaders but I haven't heard back from them either.
I am working with Dami+ín Vila to release Capsule UI under the same non-commercial creative commons license. I've corresponded with Dami+ín and he's mentioned how CCP reached out to him and his [url=http://eve.damianvila.com/fonts.htm]Dami+ín Vila]EVE Alpha Font[/ulr] for use in web projects. I've stated that I want this typeface project to be used for community tools such as protofits.com to increase a sense of verisimilitude between the tools and game that players interact with.
While I am within my rights under U.S. copyright precedent (yes, I made this typeface and font in US, before I traveled to South Korea. The font code log is timestamped.) to re-release the recreated vectored font and typeface, I don't want to lose my account over this matter per any stipulation in the EULA I agreed to when I joined Dust 514. To reiterate, I am not releasing an extracted file of the EVEsans font from the EVE Online client. This Capsule UI typeface is built from scratch and with that comes new variations in font code.
http://blog.crowdspring.com/2011/03/font-law-licensing/
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Fansites_guidelines.
TL:DR Please don't take punitive action against my account for releasing this tool.
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
1001
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Posted - 2014.10.11 17:20:00 -
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keep trying as ccp can be very.. knee jerk about things.
ps. i think US law only pertains to companies based in the US where as CCP is iceland/shanghai so im not sure how international law would view this.
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Level 2 Forum Pariah
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
3888
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Posted - 2014.10.11 17:38:00 -
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"DoesnGÇÖt the U.S. have to follow the copyright law of other countries under international treaties?
Yes and No. All of the major copyright treaties and agreements to which the U.S. is a party (such as the Berne Convention) operate under a common principle (called GÇ£national treatmentGÇ¥) which holds that a country must treat foreigners and locals equally. That means, among other things, that the U.S. is not obligated to provide greater protection to works from other countries than it provides to works produced in the U.S."
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
3909
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Posted - 2014.10.13 02:17:00 -
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Is there a GM around?
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
3911
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Posted - 2014.10.13 22:35:00 -
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GM Archduke, are you available to look into this? It's been 2 weeks and no notice from a community rep via email or twitter.
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GM Archduke
Game Masters C C P Alliance
584
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Posted - 2014.10.13 22:40:00 -
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I'm currently off shift chilling in my apartment, I'll see what I can do for this tomorrow. This is a community issue, so I will not be able to handle the ticket, but I'll start poking the people who can
GM Archduke
CCP Customer Support | EVE Online | DUST 514
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Kaughst
Nyain San General Tso's Alliance
661
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Posted - 2014.10.13 22:41:00 -
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It's not even a factor when they switched over to Project Legion, publish it.
You know you have at least thought about cow tipping. They know, and they're out to settle the score.
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
3911
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Posted - 2014.10.13 22:42:00 -
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@GM Archduke Thank you kindly.
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
3911
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Posted - 2014.10.13 23:04:00 -
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Kaughst wrote:It's not even a factor when they switched over to Project Legion, publish it. It's not specifically a Dust 514 font. This is modeled after the same User Interface type that is used in Eve Online. CCP Games did not model this font in house but instead contracted a graphic design typographer to design what is called EVE Sans. I do not know who this person is, but they have a contractual agreement with the artist in Iceland. Primary concern is that releasing my recreation violates that agreement between the artist and CCP. However, typeface copyright is handled and protected differently in the US since the 70s. The typeface itself is considered a utility which cannot be copyright under most circumstances except when the characters and colors themselves are indicative of a trademarked logo or the recreation is used in a for-profit commercial setting. The font, on the other hand is a copyrightable property because it is the computer code which dictates typeface kerning and general arrangement on your screen or printed media surface. What I have done with Capsule UI is create new vectors of the typeface and build new font code from scratch.
You can see there are subtle difference between the two in this screenshot comparison. Caspule UI is on top and EVE Sans below.
Further Concern might be that my typeface and font might be used to forge screenshots or impersonate other players. This is an understandable concern, but can be mitigated with understanding of exif data and image compression which sites such at http://fotoforensics.com/ can illuminate. Additionaly, Capsule UI is designed for establishing verisimilitude between CCP games products and 3rd party community tools like protofits.com/, yet Capsule UI is intentionally not designed with 1-to-1 accuracy to EVE Sans. If someone wanted to forge a document they would have better success extracting the EVE Sans font file from the EVE Online client.
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Moochie Cricket
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
767
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Posted - 2014.10.14 00:39:00 -
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Comic Sans is better...
GLORY TO THE STATE
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Ben Sanderson
Nicholas Cage Fighters
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Posted - 2014.10.14 00:42:00 -
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Moochie Cricket wrote:Comic Sans is better... Authoring new support ticket to CCP games. |
Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
4015
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Posted - 2014.10.21 03:27:00 -
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3 weeks in and that support ticket is still open. Still glad the Devs enjoyed the current version of the font it in this Fashion video.
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GM Archduke
Game Masters C C P Alliance
670
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Posted - 2014.10.21 04:08:00 -
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Embarrassing, yes, but these things do take time. I know that the right people have been poked, and emails have been sent, but you would only receive a response on the ticket once the right people clear everything and give us that subtle Hollywood-nod.
GM Archduke
CCP Customer Support | EVE Online | DUST 514
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Joel II X
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
3943
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Posted - 2014.10.21 04:10:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:I'm currently off shift chilling in my apartment, I'll see what I can do for this tomorrow. This is a community issue, so I will not be able to handle the ticket, but I'll start poking the people who can Off-shift, and on the forums regarding a product of your company.
You sir, have earned even more respect out of this merc. Keep it up, and just may put up a poster of you on my room. |
Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
4015
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Posted - 2014.10.21 04:15:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:Embarrassing, yes, but these things do take time. I know that the right people have been poked, and emails have been sent, but you would only receive a response on the ticket once the right people clear everything and give us that subtle Hollywood-nod. Oh Jeremiah Johnson. GM Archduke, you're awesome. Thanks for letting me know.
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NDA Approved
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
113
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Posted - 2014.11.11 00:07:00 -
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I assume you didn't get a reply about this Jadek. Otherwise you would have said something.
Imma in ur base, browsin' docs on docs. Trust me, I have clearance.
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DarthPlagueis TheWise
363
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Posted - 2014.11.11 00:39:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:Embarrassing, yes, but these things do take time. I know that the right people have been poked, and emails have been sent, but you would only receive a response on the ticket once the right people clear everything and give us that subtle Hollywood-nod.
That is a very creepy way to see the CCP to consumer relationship.
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