DUST Search - Z Platoon?

MINA Longstrike wrote:

Mike Ox Bigger wrote:

Atiim wrote:

Can you name them? I honestly have trouble believing that, and I was in the Krijunn channel myself for a while and they've never had problems with entire corporations and hordes of pilots sabotaging them.

Hmm... was trying not to give them any publicity but Shaking Babies recently invaded our chat and shut it down for a night forcing us to reset it the next day. It was really lame they just spammed our chat and kept making lame goat noises. KH spies were a long time ago when they were big and were advertising all over the forums. They had enemy EVE pilots in their chat watching the location we'd post so we started posting them only in our chat and never had any problems. We've also had Gallente spies invade our chat. Contrary to what people believe about us we don't always have a full qsync a lot of the times it's 2 squads of 5 or 6 which allowed these guys who were in our room to que with us and TK and suicide. There's been plenty of other instances which is the reason we went with a password protected chat.

You're really trying to make the claim that Kirjuun Heiian was spying on you? What a ****ing joke. Or are you simply stating that we're complicit because it's a public channel?

"We were commanded to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocents caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon


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True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 13441	Posted - 2014.10.10 03:49:00 - [1] - Quote Atiim wrote: Everytime these guys are mentioned, people bring up their inability to work with others and how they kick players from the channel who don't adhere to their standards (whatever those may be). Some go as far as to say that they're a contributing factor to why CalFW is terrible. Normally I'd just use the search button, but would someone mind explaining who they are? They were originally a group who started working on Caldari FW alongside Kirjun Heiian, a channel comprised of long a few Caldari RPers, EVE pilots, and was somewhat the De Facto channel for Cal FW as I understand it. Initially Z Platoon competed and worked with Kirjuun, eventually using scathing accusations that Kirjuun was a channel filled with scrubs and poor players, poaching some of what were perceived as the top tier players, and casting out anyone who did not meet their "standards"...... as I am told from several members of the Caldari Militia As I saw it at the time..... it was the channel that fractured Cal FW, and for all its successes to its members has never truly served as a channel that would or could unite the Caldari militia. Though I am now informed its original founder is no longer at its head. I can only assume its changed hands the channel is something different entirely. "We were commanded to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocents caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 13441	Posted - 2014.10.10 03:52:00 - [2] - Quote Mike Ox Bigger wrote: We're the best Caldari players the game has to offer. Hands down. Like I said just a few minutes ago in another post. We never lose. I've lost maybe 3 cal fw battles in the last 8 months. As far as not working with others I have no idea why they say that. Kirjuun was brought up but they're a pub channel that lets anyone come in and we don't roll like that. As for PIE I have no idea, I'm in their room and squad with them on occasion but never heard about them wanting help. As for us being dicks we're not but we don't really let scrubs in. We want you running proto gear and we want you listening on coms. The main problems occur when we tell the team to let them have an objective and we'll surround it and killbox but some ******* will hack the objective and then get team killed. That's started some pretty serious arguments before but other than that we don't have problems. Our biggest problem is people getting tired of losing to us and trying to sabotage our rooms. The mere fact you are willing to label players as scrubs and not allow them into your channel actively fractures the tiny militia you guys had...... it is a poor choice of tactics for a game mode that required round the clock activity and large number of players. Amarr Militia ran several small corporations to include and train newer FW participants, headed if I remember correctly by Nocturnal Soul and another active Militia participant. FW is wholly based on how many people you can bring to the fray and key timezones each day. "We were commanded to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocents caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 13448	Posted - 2014.10.10 04:02:00 - [3] - Quote Actually as I mentioned before this isolationist policy and unwillingness to work with new blood is part of the reason the Gallente are succeeding the way they are. Rather that serve as leaders of the Miltias and public figure heads for united and concentrated activity as groups like Carbon 7, New Age Outlaws, IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES, PIE Inc, Prima Gallicus their breaking down the small Caldari militia into fragments. This is where Lucent Echelon is succeeding. All 3 of the players I would actively associate with Gallente FW are working on this channel. They publicly announced it and opened it, and as I recall have it moderated as an EVE channel. Who wouldn't want to work with 3 forum goers who are actively working toward the unity and betterment of their faction. Hell even now Aero, myself, and the other Classiarii are getting nostalgic for an FW tour. "We were commanded to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocents caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 13448	Posted - 2014.10.10 04:04:00 - [4] - Quote Mike Ox Bigger wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: It's hard to lose when you don't play. It's been largely under your watch that gallente have taken control of the warzone. I don't think the problem lies with us but more in the fact that more players lean towards Gallente and Minmatar. There's no attack timer on districts so we lose them as fast as we gain them. Indeed and this is a problem that could be fixed if you widened your scope, opened up to newer blood, made contact with more Cal FW capsuleers, and called for outside intervention by Amarr FWers. "We were commanded to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocents caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 13490	Posted - 2014.10.13 02:42:00 - [5] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Mike Ox Bigger wrote: Atiim wrote: Can you name them? I honestly have trouble believing that, and I was in the Krijunn channel myself for a while and they've never had problems with entire corporations and hordes of pilots sabotaging them. Hmm... was trying not to give them any publicity but Shaking Babies recently invaded our chat and shut it down for a night forcing us to reset it the next day. It was really lame they just spammed our chat and kept making lame goat noises. KH spies were a long time ago when they were big and were advertising all over the forums. They had enemy EVE pilots in their chat watching the location we'd post so we started posting them only in our chat and never had any problems. We've also had Gallente spies invade our chat. Contrary to what people believe about us we don't always have a full qsync a lot of the times it's 2 squads of 5 or 6 which allowed these guys who were in our room to que with us and TK and suicide. There's been plenty of other instances which is the reason we went with a password protected chat. You're really trying to make the claim that Kirjuun Heiian was spying on you? What a **ing joke. Or are you simply stating that we're complicit because it's a public channel? I think Mr Ox really needs to understand is that its the spies you don't know about that are the ones that will ** you over.... if you know about them it's not all that much of an issue. Hell I used to welcome to Matari pilots who would try to drop on me while I was in place over a district. "We were commanded to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocents caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 13510	Posted - 2014.10.13 20:49:00 - [6] - Quote Mike Ox Bigger wrote: True Adamance wrote: I think Mr Ox really needs to understand is that its the spies you don't know about that are the ones that will **** you over.... if you know about them it's not all that much of an issue. Hell I used to welcome to Matari pilots who would try to drop on me while I was in place over a district. Those are the ones I'm talking about, we only knew about them because our pilot told us a few different times that he'd try to show up but got ran off by a small fleet that was waiting on him. Plus we'd be playing primarily randoms and then all of a sudden they'd have EVE support. It's not hard to figure out. True enough..... but heck don't the Caldari pilots like the fights, run up a small roaming fleet, run some OB and get in some small gang conflicts. The ones I flew with in Huola did and were a great asset to the siege. Sure it didn't go out way but the fights were spectacular. "We were commanded to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocents caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 13540	Posted - 2014.10.14 19:31:00 - [7] - Quote Middas Betancore wrote: Listen to yourselves, dunno if ur delusional or just plain dumb Both sides have good players, ur certainly not kicking our ass CCP didnt, "save the caldari" We q sync and u don't? (funny story, I hate q syncing, I think it doesnt help) If u really believe all that junk ur spouting,I kind of feel sorry for u C'mon Kirk I thought u were smarter than this,... Q-Syncing does help......previously its been the direct cause if sov shifts. Junip Crusade wouldn't have worked if it was just PIE Inc squad. We had Tiberius running Squads, Nocturnal Running Squads, Evicer running squads, Marauder running squads, etc. "We were commanded to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocents caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon