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Posted - 2014.10.10 06:52:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:I can't speak for z platoon before I joined. I'm also not a power player, and diplomacy and coordinating more than a squad size element isn't my forte. All I can say is this: since I joined z platoon coming on 6 months ago, I have never seen a loss. I've never seen us run with less than 10, because we both enjoy the win, enjoy some roleplay to take back Caldari Prime, and enjoy the organization of it. We are stricter than other few channels I've been in, but co siderably less strict than a pc match.
Personally I enjoy the strictness, but I was in the military for 4 years and that kind of mindset is familiar to me. I can understand certain people being put off from it, but it gives us an advantage over our enemies that frequently nets us a win with Mike imam clone loss. I've run full syncs with z platoon where we lose less than 10 clones, and I believe it is due to the coordination and strictness with which we operate.
I don't know what went on with Lucent Echelon, but many of my in-game friends I met through Z Platoon, and I've never felt like they act untoward at blueberries, other than to laugh when they do something silly. I don't really pay attention to things that aren't defeating the enemy, but I feel like a lot of flak directed at z platoon is misguided.
A lot of the talk about Z platoon is how instead of embracing other players and being one of the faces of caldari militia effort, they've instead simply been damaging to the community. Across most other factions people have stepped up to be leaders, ambassadors, teachers, organizers and fighters for their respective faction, this takes insane amounts of work and effort... There is crazy amounts of cooperation between them. This hasn't happened for the Caldari because it seems like every time someone tries it there is either little interest or there's a lot of backbiting and underhanded stuff going on, even simple whispers of "Come join my Private Channel you won't have to play with scrubs there" is damaging beyond belief and countless people have evidenced that such things are happening and with frequency.
Z platoon is not unifying, It isn't leading, it isn't teaching and it certainly isn't open and accepting, instead it's back room deals and 'private clubs' where in the words of someone who has identified as a member 'you need to know someone to get in' with the lazy excuse of 'spies' and 'trolls' as a reason.
You don't need to know anyone to get into Pie Ground Control or Amarr123. You don't need to know anyone to get into Lucent Echelon, or any of the various minmatar channels, you just need to know the channel name.
Weep not poor children, For life is this way, Murdering beauty and passion.
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Posted - 2014.10.10 06:55:00 -
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Mike Ox Bigger wrote:You're talking to someone who was in Kirjuun up until like three days ago and from the very beginning. I've been in pretty much every public Cal chat that's been listed on the forums. As far as PIE goes I have no idea what went on with that nor had anything to do with it. I only squad with them occasionally but I've been a member since the beginning so I felt the need to defend them as I know for the majority we are a good group of people. I'm also in PIE and Amarr123, when I first started playing there I experienced problems not getting picked up in a squad until I finally listed I had 40mil SP because I wasn't very well known so pubs have circles in them too.
And I'm in pretty much all the well known pub chat channels for all factions. In almost all of them are other members of Z Platoon.
Was that when chicagocubs4ever was present? Because honestly there were talks among pie leadership about banning him and his corp from the channel for that elitist attitude, which wasn't all that dissimilar from the one maintained by z platoon.
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Posted - 2014.10.10 13:21:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Mike Ox Bigger wrote:
We've had entire corporations invade our chat by someone giving access to the wrong person. They come in and spam the chat making it hard to squad up and then are just obnoxious on coms. We've had to delete and restart our room several times which is why it's been depleted of players lately.
We've also had entire teams qsync against us. That's no big deal until they have someone who's on the other team that's also in our room. When they know what you're planning on doing it gives a huge advantage and has happened a few times in the past.
Our room is secluded mainly because of trolls. Not because of elitism.
EDIT: Also we've had EVE pilots spy our channel and block our pilots. That was one of the main problems with Kirjuun.
What were the name of the Corporations and Pilots? I've been in Kirjuu's chanel before and I don't recall ever having issues with spies/trolls.
Simple solution, don't post requests in the public portion, ask if a pilot is available for OB support, if he is get him to private message you and give coordinates directly to the pilot, it's so ****ing simple it's not even funny. I know you're awfully quick to scream spies, but the caldari/gallente warzone is always very hot and when a match spawns caldari side it obviously also spawns gallente side.
Weep not poor children, For life is this way, Murdering beauty and passion.
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