DUST Search - Z Platoon?

Mike Ox Bigger wrote:

Atiim wrote:

Can you name them? I honestly have trouble believing that, and I was in the Krijunn channel myself for a while and they've never had problems with entire corporations and hordes of pilots sabotaging them.

Hmm... was trying not to give them any publicity but Shaking Babies recently invaded our chat and shut it down for a night forcing us to reset it the next day. It was really lame they just spammed our chat and kept making lame goat noises. KH spies were a long time ago when they were big and were advertising all over the forums. They had enemy EVE pilots in their chat watching the location we'd post so we started posting them only in our chat and never had any problems. We've also had Gallente spies invade our chat. Contrary to what people believe about us we don't always have a full qsync a lot of the times it's 2 squads of 5 or 6 which allowed these guys who were in our room to que with us and TK and suicide. There's been plenty of other instances which is the reason we went with a password protected chat.


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MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1348	Posted - 2014.10.10 03:39:00 - [1] - Quote Atiim wrote: Everytime these guys are mentioned, people bring up their inability to work with others and how they kick players from the channel who don't adhere to their standards (whatever those may be). Some go as far as to say that they're a contributing factor to why CalFW is terrible. Normally I'd just use the search button, but would someone mind explaining who they are? They killed the original kirjuun heiian channel (well before my attempt to revive it), they refuse to play with anyone who 'isn't good' ie, if you're a random blueberry go ** yourself (also ironic as they're very mediocre) and almost always operate with full syncs (which fairly regularly get beaten / disband the moment they encounter any actual opposition). They frequently attempt to snipe pilots from other channels (I did a lot of ground work trying to get pilots back into kirjuun and I got reports from pilots that once z platoon found out they were there, they got spammed with mails), they for the most part refuse to cooperate with people belonging to other channels (its z platoon or go home), the channel operates under a restricted policy -you actually have to ing 'apply' because elitism and the spirit of cooperation, instead of being open like pie ground control (for the most part anyone can join that channel and they only get kicked once it's found out they fight for minmatar or are spying for them). They're excessively paranoid about spies rather than simply accepting they're a fact of FW. That's most of the out of game stuff... The ingame stuff prettymuch just involves being absolute shitheads (leave 1 point unhacked so we can camp it guiz!) and making every attempt to make facwar unfun for other people. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.** I have a few alts.
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1350	Posted - 2014.10.10 03:51:00 - [2] - Quote Oh and taken right from the horses mouth : linky "It's a public channel, it must be filled with scrubs. Everyone in z platoon is good". I can speak from all sorts of FW experience, it's not about having good players, its about having organized players - being able to give even militia suits enough direction to have uplinks for people to spawn in on at plenty of locations will win far more faction warfare matches than not. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1350	Posted - 2014.10.10 03:53:00 - [3] - Quote Mike Ox Bigger wrote: We're the best Caldari players the game has to offer. Hands down. Like I said just a few minutes ago in another post. We never lose. I've lost maybe 3 cal fw battles in the last 8 months. As far as not working with others I have no idea why they say that. Kirjuun was brought up but they're a pub channel that lets anyone come in and we don't roll like that. As for PIE I have no idea, I'm in their room and squad with them on occasion but never heard about them wanting help. As for us being dicks we're not but we don't really let scrubs in. We want you running proto gear and we want you listening on coms. The main problems occur when we tell the team to let them have an objective and we'll surround it and killbox but some ***** will hack the objective and then get team killed. That's started some pretty serious arguments before but other than that we don't have problems. Our biggest problem is people getting tired of losing to us and trying to sabotage our rooms. It's hard to lose when you don't play. It's been largely under your watch that gallente have taken control of the warzone. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.** I have a few alts.
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1350	Posted - 2014.10.10 03:58:00 - [4] - Quote I've played with you people. You are mediocre, Elitist and mediocre. You treat FW like it's a secret special club for just the cool kids rather than a game mode that should be open and available to anyone. Also, hilarious paranoia about spies. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1354	Posted - 2014.10.10 03:59:00 - [5] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: And this post, my Fellow Dusters, explains why Caldari are failing FW. Prettymuch, I don't have the time or energy to try to unite and lead a caldari FW effort and most attempts are thwarted by z-platoon sniping pilots and players. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1354	Posted - 2014.10.10 04:18:00 - [6] - Quote Mike Ox Bigger wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: And this post, my Fellow Dusters, explains why Caldari are failing FW. Prettymuch, I don't have the time or energy to try to unite and lead a caldari FW effort and most attempts are thwarted by z-platoon sniping pilots and players. Please don't blame your rooms failing on us. The main reason everyone loves running with Z platoon is because we are so organized... it's not our fault players gravitated towards our room. I was in Kirjuun for pretty much ever. I honestly just deleted it from my list. Why? Because it's a ******* ghost town for the most part with no direction and no one on coms and it was pretty much always that way. How the hell can you qsync when no one was ever on a mic in your room? Hell Caldari Elite State Army or whatever was more successful than Kirjuun ever has been and all they do is spam invites to Caldari players... It wasn't ever 'my room', it was listed as the caldari militia channel quite some time ago, along with pie for the amarr and others for gallente and minmatar. I was disappointed by it being a ghost town as well, so I tried to gather as many players as I could to fill it, I got into contact with four caldari fw alliances in eve... and what happened after I left it for a week because I had real life stuff to deal with? It was back to being completely dead - because Z platoon sniped the pilots and the star players. I know people had talks with members of z platoon about getting them to try and work with amarr FW players and people in the kirjuun heiian channel... and the response was the same tired tripe you're spouting now "PUBLIC CHANNEL, SPIES, SCRUBS" repeated ad nauseum. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1354	Posted - 2014.10.10 04:49:00 - [7] - Quote So you've tried to spin this into a recruitment effort now? I've played with you people before and I left because I was absolutely **ing disgusted with your overall attitudes. I'd rather burn. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.** I have a few alts.
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1359	Posted - 2014.10.10 05:14:00 - [8] - Quote Mike Ox Bigger wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: So you've tried to spin this into a recruitment effort now? I've played with you people before and I left because I was absolutely **ing disgusted with your overall attitudes. I'd rather burn. Remember their names at all? I honestly can only think of one *** and I struggle to deal with him myself. Everyone else is cool. This isn't about the attitudes of individuals, though you've presented yourself in quite a poor manner with the whole 'people in public channels are scrubs'. It's about your attitude as an entity. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.** I have a few alts.
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1361	Posted - 2014.10.10 06:29:00 - [9] - Quote Mike Ox Bigger wrote: Now you're twisting my words, I said we don't have scrubs not that pub channel players are scrubs. Split hairs as much as you like, but that essentially what you're saying, especially when combined with statements like "We only play with people that are good". Mike Ox Bigger wrote: I'm in a bunch of pub chat FW channels. I was listing pub chat as the Kirjuun demise and it was. At one point Kirjuun was booming, the EVE pilots left because we'd post our location and they'd get attacked. Z Platoon was more secure so they went there. That's pretty much all that happened and it wasn't even a big deal as it was only like two pilots.You're blaming Z platoon for Kirjuun's demise and it wasn't the problem. Kirjuun lacked organization and it slowly died off after and as I remember things Z Platoon wasn't even password protected until a few months ago when we started having problems. It just wasn't broadcasted all over the forums for everyone to know about. Riiiiight... which is why z platoon was practically outright hostile when Pie asked to do stuff together, and why you guys regularly try to snipe players / pilots and refuse to even cooperate with pickup groups from other channels, and why when tons of your players were asked to join public channels to simply form pickup groups the response was largely "NOPE SPAIS" and "WHY THE **** WOULD I DO THAT!?!?". Anyways, I and many others have said more than enough about how damaging to the caldari effort your attitude is, you clearly haven't really heard a word anyone has said to you, maybe you should just go back to your channel full of cnts - er, I mean cool kids. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.* I have a few alts.
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1406	Posted - 2014.10.13 02:13:00 - [10] - Quote Mike Ox Bigger wrote: Atiim wrote: Can you name them? I honestly have trouble believing that, and I was in the Krijunn channel myself for a while and they've never had problems with entire corporations and hordes of pilots sabotaging them. Hmm... was trying not to give them any publicity but Shaking Babies recently invaded our chat and shut it down for a night forcing us to reset it the next day. It was really lame they just spammed our chat and kept making lame goat noises. KH spies were a long time ago when they were big and were advertising all over the forums. They had enemy EVE pilots in their chat watching the location we'd post so we started posting them only in our chat and never had any problems. We've also had Gallente spies invade our chat. Contrary to what people believe about us we don't always have a full qsync a lot of the times it's 2 squads of 5 or 6 which allowed these guys who were in our room to que with us and TK and suicide. There's been plenty of other instances which is the reason we went with a password protected chat. You're really trying to make the claim that Kirjuun Heiian was spying on you? What a **ing joke. Or are you simply stating that we're complicit because it's a public channel? Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.** I have a few alts.

MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1407	Posted - 2014.10.14 05:46:00 - [11] - Quote Mike Ox Bigger wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: You're really trying to make the claim that Kirjuun Heiian was spying on you? What a **ing joke. Or are you simply stating that we're complicit because it's a public channel? What the do I not speak english? Gallente EVE pilots were chilling in your KH room. We were qsyncing in KH. When we'd post a district location there Gallente EVE pilots would attack our one pilot that would try to show up. No where did I say KH was spying on us... wtf I think that's more an issue of you being not intelligent enough to circumvent the apparently painfully obvious spies than anything else. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.** I have a few alts.
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1407	Posted - 2014.10.14 07:28:00 - [12] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Middas Betancore wrote: @ Lucent echelon....I didnt realise u guys had 100% district control..... Wait....checks starmap check my sig, we did, and we kept it like that for a while until CCP bailed them out and played favorites like they always do. It's almost like something in the system was broken! I love how people try to take credit for things not working properly as though it were an indicator of skill and they were personally responsible for it. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.