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B1ack ice
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Posted - 2014.10.09 20:39:00 -
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Well, since the forums are practically dead and I'm always on a soul searching campaign I thought I'd use the war room as an opportunity to reflect on some things I've been left to contemplate.
Through experience, observation of real life scenarios, and never ending research into subjects that continue to badger me through the nights I have found myself wanting more intel than I currently have.
I don't understand people.
In all things, I always make it a point to do the right thing. I don't care what I do as long as I'm in the right and whatever I did or did not do was for the right reasons. You'd think doing something for a good cause would give you a good effect, but to quote Jurassic Park (Dare I?) "Some of the worst things imaginable have been done with the best intentions."
AKA Positive cause = Negative effect
So, I've been left to debate what is right? What is wrong?
My communication with people sucks. I find myself becoming easily frustrated, annoyed, and upset when people ask me stupid questions. By stupid questions, I mean when someone asks me a question and I think that the answer is obvious. When someone questions me as to what I'm doing and why I'm doing it I become angry because I'm "obviously" doing what I have deduced to be "right" for the "right" reasons which I have already cut apart and analyzed intensely to make sure they are supported by logic, understanding, reason, and rationality. That is who I am and that is what I enjoy doing. My focus in everything is always going to be to find some truth that's going to challenge me into thinking my way out and/or evolving.
If you're going to be bad, be bad with a purpose.
PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-NITE
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B1ack ice
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.10.09 20:39:00 -
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So, with all this in mind I began to become angry. People questioning my integrity and trying to box me up into this stereotype that I never fit. And why were they doing this? Because my actions did not reflect on who I am at all. So, inadvertently, I became my own worst enemy. Aren't we all?
I absolutely 100% hate tying bad and otherwise irrational behavior onto "medical" conditions, but I was talking with a friend and telling him about how I eat. He then proceeded to make a comment about how I must have extremely low blood sugar. I didn't really give a ****, because I just view such things as inconveniences and/or obstacles that through ignorance will cease to exist. Then I stopped and actually asked what that even means. He told me that a low blood sugar causes a person to be sick, tired, depressed, and have mood swings/act irrationally.
I began to contemplate this. Is this a factor? Is it worth me looking into it further?
I myself had begun to wonder what I was doing and why I was doing it.
Thus, I deduced that with people it is not going to ever be that simple. There isn't just a reason for doing something and then the act itself. There is whatever is behind that thought process. There are so many innumerable factors. All different. And behind these factors are more factors that factor into that. A huge complex process. This is a lot like what I have discovered about choices. It's not just one choice, it's several small choices we don't consider which build up into something else entirely.
Let me ask some of you this:
Often men have come to me and asked me "Why do women have to play these "games"? (I'm just using this as an example because it relates, although maybe it's not just a "sex" thing. I honestly hope it isn't.)
Men complain that women say things they don't mean, say nothing at all, and then get mad at them because they didn't do something.... whatever that something may be.
Women and/or girls (most of us) are brought up into this society of older women who gossip. Now, when I say gossip I don't just mean "Who got an abortion last week" or whatever I mean they pass around how unreliable men are in whatever different form that comes in. A man said this and did this, this man cheated on this woman, this man left his wife and kids out of no where, this man beat his girlfriend after being loving and kind at the start of said relationship, etc etc etc. It goes on and on and girls get to grow up listening to this on repeat.
Every new generation does not want to be like the last, am I right? So, in order to prevent these "horrible" things from happening to us and making mistakes like these women made we came up with these games so we can create an hypothesis, experiment, and then move onto forming a theory.
I did and said something that I did not mean, because I thought to myself "This person knows that I don't actually mean what I'm saying based off of what I've said and done all of this time" and however he responds to this, because his actions are contradicting his words, is going to be authentic/sincere. I can make a good judgment off of this. I can form a hypothesis to have better understanding of this person and the situation at hand. Is it safe to put myself at more risk or do I actually have grounds for concern? I guess it is always going to go back to trolling... doing something dramatic and overexaggerating tone, speech, and actions in order to draw a reaction out of another person.
But then logically I realized that that isn't going to ever work. It is definitely a brilliant idea, but in all relationships I'm pretty sure what everyone is looking for is sincerity from the other person. So, if you want sincerity from someone you have to give it yourself in all things. Not give it in calculated measurements. >.<
What is right? If you continue to find a problem, take it out of the equation in order to find the solution. My problem is constantly with other people. I have made many bad decisions based off of doing right by the other person, when in actuality maybe doing right by them would be doing right by me. I wouldn't find myself accidentally having two faces.
I have done so many things for very defined reasons but the end result made the former null and void. You do something for someone and then they're gone because you did.
If you're going to be bad, be bad with a purpose.
PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-NITE
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B1ack ice
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.10.09 20:48:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:Perhaps your frustration with stupid questions lies not with the stupid question, but your inability to articulate the logic you find so obvious.
Well, I do things for people, it backfires on me, and then I wonder why I did something so f_cking stupid and unlike me in the first place.
The logic would have made perfect sense had everything gone according to plan.
But that's illogical in itself, trying to control things. I have deduced that the only logical way to lead one's life is to be yourself, do things for yourself, and see what happens. Because if you do things for others, others leave you, and you lose yourself in the process, nothing adds up. A house divided against itself cannot stand.
If you're going to be bad, be bad with a purpose.
PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-NITE
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B1ack ice
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.10.09 20:52:00 -
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Kaughst wrote:I don't pick up on alot of social ques or just don't listen well so I just nod my head and say 'ok' and 'sorry'. That's why I like to suggest to people that shaving a kangaroo is very hard and is a task that should not be taken lightly.
LOL I freaking love you Kaughst. You are a great person.
If you're going to be bad, be bad with a purpose.
PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-NITE
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B1ack ice
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.10.09 21:04:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:B1ack ice wrote:But that's illogical in itself, trying to control things. I have deduced that the only logical way to lead one's life is to be yourself, do things for yourself, and see what happens. Because if you do things for others, others leave you, and you lose yourself in the process, nothing adds up. A house divided against itself cannot stand. In the end I think you will find doing things only for oneself is a hollow experience. It may be a natural reaction to what you've experienced in life, but having the pendulum sway all the way in the other direction is not all that different than what happened to the nerf/buff of the Flaylock. Eventually, and just like the Flaylock, you'll find the right balance.
Well, I mean that from now on when I do things for others it should be thought out. For example, if I do this for someone with no expectations out of them but because this is what I want to do. Everyone's happy in the end, regardless.
If you do something that is solely reliant on the other person's performance, then it's best not to do it at all, because at the end of the day you have to live with the choices you make and the consequences of your choices. People fail you all the time and they're not going to be the ones who are judged based off of your actions. Do something with complete sincerity because otherwise it's not you that's doing anything anyways. And doing whatever it is for someone else doesn't even matter, because it wasn't you who was doing it.
If you're going to be bad, be bad with a purpose.
PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-NITE
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B1ack ice
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.10.09 22:01:00 -
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GRIM GEAR wrote:I was reading that with the Dialect of Dr Brennan off Bones . Well it's not my place to say this as I am not the best communicator, though food for thought may haps you overthink too much which in itself can lead to sticky situations. Don't take anything I have written to heart as I have no idea what I am talking about. I do see where you are coming from though it's hard to try and please everyone' yourself included, I think finding a median, per se meeting halfway might help. Excuse my bad punctuation and spelling thank you. Wow I should of read the whole thread.......... I am late to the party as usual.
LOL I've been compared to her character before. >.<
You are right. I do "overthink". I like thinking as deeply into everything as possible.
If you're going to be bad, be bad with a purpose.
PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-NITE
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B1ack ice
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.10.10 23:46:00 -
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Eugene Killmore wrote:Ok the war room is officialy dead when random dames be making dear diary posts Da duq outta here.
Never heard of you. Nuff said.
Seriously though, what is it with you people?
The name of my post is literally "You don't have to read." LOL
You just gave me another view and took the time out of your day to bump my post. #YouTubePeople
Thank you?
If you're going to be bad, be bad with a purpose.
PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-NITE
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B1ack ice
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.10.11 00:51:00 -
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SoTa Senpai wrote:B1ack ice wrote:Eugene Killmore wrote:Ok the war room is officialy dead when random dames be making dear diary posts Da duq outta here. Never heard of you. Nuff said. Seriously though, what is it with you people? The name of my post is literally "You don't have to read." LOL You just gave me another view and took the time out of your day to bump my post. #YouTubePeople Thank you? Post bumping doesn't really mean anything in a sub section that gets 0 new threads daily almost. It'll always be on top. And what's with people posting threads in the wrong section and then feeling justified for it because they used some dumb phrase in the OP or title? There's a lockeroom for these kind of things for a reason, because we expect the content found here to be of a certain sort, so even when you put 'don't read' you wouldn't expect an emo rampage post. So don't go down the route of 'you people' when you fit a far worse category of 'them' Lol
You are so full of **** it's coming out of your mouth. Especially considering you're in a different category then I am entirely, in a bad way. Think about it. You no longer play the game, but feel the need to post on it's forums at all. You hate DUST 514, but you still talk about it. It's a broken subject.
Usually the purpose of your troll here would to be to draw a reaction out of me, which you have succeeded in. Although, I regret to inform you that, you have indubitably failed, because I'm not addressing you as either my superior or my equal but you in your rightful place. Which is beneath me.
You tell me to get on your level, but I'd have to dig so deep into the earth to get there that the heat from the Earth's core would incinerate my ass.
The only butthurt I've ever been was trying to downgrade so I could hopefully get you a ladder and help you figure out how to climb.
Wuv you boo. <3
Signed,
B1ack ass
If you're going to be bad, be bad with a purpose.
PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-NITE
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B1ack ice
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.10.11 01:26:00 -
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SoTa Senpai wrote:B1ack ice wrote:SoTa Senpai wrote:B1ack ice wrote:Eugene Killmore wrote:Ok the war room is officialy dead when random dames be making dear diary posts Da duq outta here. Never heard of you. Nuff said. Seriously though, what is it with you people? The name of my post is literally "You don't have to read." LOL You just gave me another view and took the time out of your day to bump my post. #YouTubePeople Thank you? Post bumping doesn't really mean anything in a sub section that gets 0 new threads daily almost. It'll always be on top. And what's with people posting threads in the wrong section and then feeling justified for it because they used some dumb phrase in the OP or title? There's a lockeroom for these kind of things for a reason, because we expect the content found here to be of a certain sort, so even when you put 'don't read' you wouldn't expect an emo rampage post. So don't go down the route of 'you people' when you fit a far worse category of 'them' Lol You are so full of **** it's coming out of your mouth. Especially considering you're in a different category then I am entirely, in a bad way. Think about it. You no longer play the game, but feel the need to post on it's forums at all. You hate DUST 514, but you still talk about it. It's a broken subject. Usually the purpose of your troll here would to be to draw a reaction out of me, which you have succeeded in. Although, I regret to inform you that, you have indubitably failed, because I'm not addressing you as either my superior or my equal but you in your rightful place. Which is beneath me. AKA Justification to you is null and void due to the indisputable facts. You tell me to get on your level, but I'd have to dig so deep into the earth to get there that the heat from the Earth's core would incinerate my ass. The only butthurt I've ever been was trying to downgrade so I could hopefully get you a ladder and help you figure out how to climb. Wuv you boo. <3 Signed, B1ack ass Oh, I thought this thread was about YOU. I thought I'd at least keep to the thread topic since you're going to misplace where it belongs, may as well enjoy it. But even that seems to upset your poor little feelings. Btw - I probably log on more then you have this week. LOL. Please get on my level, it's in the center of the earth, as you said, because I'm the center of your world.
I haven't been on all week... I had to sell my PS3 because we had no food in the house and hadn't eaten for over a day or two except for a bowl of oatmeal.
I have bigger things than my feelings to be worried about, but I do enjoy trolling you.
If you're going to be bad, be bad with a purpose.
PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-NITE
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B1ack ice
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.10.11 01:30:00 -
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SoTa Senpai wrote:CookieStein wrote:B1ack ice wrote:you in your rightful place. Which is beneath me. Always suspected Sota was a 'bottom'. She nailed me on the head with that one, I prefer she did all the work.
Oh, I do prefer doing the work... but if you were beneath me you'd be handcuffed to the bed, blindfolded, and the only thing of mine that would be touching you is my whip. You can count the marks later when I send you home with a cold shower... Like I always do.
If you're going to be bad, be bad with a purpose.
PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-NITE
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B1ack ice
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.10.11 01:38:00 -
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SoTa Senpai wrote:*Points out I don't log on*
*Makes excuses why she doesn't log on*
Love it. :3
Trolling is all well and good SoTa but I don't find your laughing at something like this funny at all.
If you're going to be bad, be bad with a purpose.
PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-NITE
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B1ack ice
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.10.11 01:48:00 -
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Yeah. If I had a PS3 I would be on. You have had a PS3 all this time and it was a choice not to be on.
I don't nor did I have a choice... Family will always come over everything else.
That is the difference between you and I. No hypocrisy on my part.
If you're going to be bad, be bad with a purpose.
PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-NITE
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B1ack ice
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.10.11 02:02:00 -
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SoTa Senpai wrote:B1ack ice wrote:Yeah. If I had a PS3 I would be on. You have had a PS3 all this time and it was a choice not to be on.
I don't nor did I have a choice... Family will always come over everything else.
That is the difference between you and I. No hypocrisy on my part. Again, just excuses. And don't compare us, I had visions and dreams crushed before me, all you had was talk.
Visions and Dreams are nothing but talk... that's the difference between fantasy and reality.
You just compared us. Take your own advice. Don't do it.
If you're going to be bad, be bad with a purpose.
PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-NITE
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B1ack ice
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.10.11 02:08:00 -
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SoTa Senpai wrote:B1ack ice wrote:SoTa Senpai wrote:B1ack ice wrote:Yeah. If I had a PS3 I would be on. You have had a PS3 all this time and it was a choice not to be on.
I don't nor did I have a choice... Family will always come over everything else.
That is the difference between you and I. No hypocrisy on my part. Again, just excuses. And don't compare us, I had visions and dreams crushed before me, all you had was talk. You just compared us. Take your own advice. Don't do it. I gave you a reason to not compare, but I see that went over your head. But always being on your knees, I can see how things constantly go over your head, lol.
Thank you.
If you're going to be bad, be bad with a purpose.
PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-NITE
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B1ack ice
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.10.11 02:20:00 -
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Derrith Erador wrote:SoTa Senpai wrote: But always being on your knees.
Giggity.
What does that mean?
If you're going to be bad, be bad with a purpose.
PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-NITE
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B1ack ice
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.10.12 06:07:00 -
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At the end of the day it all comes down to choices. That's all we have.
If I can only control me, I'm not going to worry about controlling anyone else.
All in all, I'd much rather care about another person and be hurt or let down rather than let another person down.
If the worst thing I ever do is try to talk to someone who hates me or care about someone who doesn't care, then I am perfectly okay with that. Much better than hating someone else and having someone care about me and causing them pain.
If it's a choice between hate and love, and there is no way the former will ever benefit me or my endgame, then I'm going to forsake my poker face, put everything I have into it, and show my hand. No bluffing. Aces, baby.
I'm taking some well thought out advice from Frank Underwood:
"I want you to listen to me very closely to what I'm about to say. From this moment on you are a rock. You absorb nothing. You say nothing. And nothing breaks you."
Straight arrow, rock solid, passionate, and relentless.
CPR!
There are no more wars to be had on DUST 514, so as far as I'm concerned this is the peace room. I'm making my peace and if no one likes it, (aka SoTa) well that's your right. :)
Say Something.
In the meantime, EXCELSIOR, I've got nothing but love for you brother.
>.<
If you're going to be bad, be bad with a purpose.
PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-NITE
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B1ack ice
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.10.12 06:10:00 -
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Kaughst wrote:I demand everyone in this thread send me noods, and a short paragraph explaining why you will lay down your life for the sake of our love.
Is there anything other than love that could possibly be worth laying your life down for?
I can answer your philosophical question in a sentence. Who needs a paragraph?
Although, I already have your love and I think I've sent you enough photos. ;)
*sticks out tongue*
GUMMY BEARS KAUGHSTY!
If you're going to be bad, be bad with a purpose.
PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-NITE
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B1ack ice
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Posted - 2014.10.12 09:42:00 -
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Immortal John Ripper wrote:B1ack ice wrote:Leadfoot10 wrote:Perhaps your frustration with stupid questions lies not with the stupid question, but your inability to articulate the logic you find so obvious. Well, I do things for people, it backfires on me, and then I wonder why I did something so f_cking stupid and unlike me in the first place. The logic would have made perfect sense had everything gone according to plan. But that's illogical in itself, trying to control things. I have deduced that the only logical way to lead one's life is to be yourself, do things for yourself, and see what happens. Because if you do things for others, others leave you, and you lose yourself in the process, nothing adds up. A house divided against itself cannot stand. I am disagreeing with just about everything you are posting. I had written all of this stuff but i deleted it. Instead I decided to pull a "black ice", deem your opinion unworthy, get angry that you are too stupid to see the obvious, and just ignore this whole thing. Now that you read this... I wonder if you could figure out my point of what I think is wrong with you all on your own without me writing 10 different paragraphs explaining "why". I am also conducting an experiment here... See what I did there? The point of this experiment will let me know if there is any hope for you...
*sighs*
I thought it was obvious by now! I just enjoy writing.
I respect that everyone has their own opinions and beliefs, but that doesn't mean I have to care for them. Same for you, you don't have to care about, like, or agree with any of my "opinions".
I'd much prefer to state truths, when I speak it's usually based off of careful observation, deductive investigative tactics, reason, and logic. Opinions don't interest me. Facts and factors do. I don't disagree or agree with anyone.
In the words of a character from one of my favorite Anime's: "I don't know everything. I only know what I know."
What you think doesn't really concern me.
Anyways, you should not have deleted this if you had written it before but stood up for what you believe to be true or not true much sooner. If you hate me, tell me all about how you hate me if you feel the need to do so, and then continue on with your life because it DOES has an expiration date and you shouldn't be wasting any of your time on someone you have determined to be unworthy of it.
Feel free to think whatever you want, whenever you want, wherever you want, on your own time, and while you're busying yourself with all of that...
*Does a really poor imitation of a Vulcan Salute*
Live Long and Prosper!
If you're going to be bad, be bad with a purpose.
PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-NITE
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B1ack ice
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.10.12 11:08:00 -
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Immortal John Ripper wrote:Thank you. I have my answer. Experiment over.
Word.
If you're going to be bad, be bad with a purpose.
PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-NITE
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B1ack ice
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Posted - 2014.10.12 23:29:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:I can't even think of what to say on how this whole thread makes me feel. You say we didn't have to read this but you also didn't have to post it now did you? Also Eugene is a dictator of Red*. Widely known as a tightwad who didn't pay his ringers, or he wasn't on so he took the blame. =ƒÿê
@SoTa and @Heim
You're right. I didn't have to post it and I didn't have to post it here (in the War Room).
Why did I?
It just so happens that the people I consider my friends and whose perspectives I like getting don't visit the Locker Room.
I know who Eugene is. Never said I didn't, now did I? I was trolling.
Attention I don't need. I'm a person who is big on thought and depth and evolving and in order to do that you have to reach out to other people to grow sometimes. I don't associate with other people in real life, because they have all let me down and based off of my experiences with some of you people in particular online it could only get worse in real life.
So, cry me a f_cking river I reached out to my friends. Although, I have no idea what some of you are doing on this thread other than wasting your time. You've made it clear you don't give a ****, you have chosen to part as friends out of your own volition, and you are killing me.
I don't understand you people. You hate me. Yet, why are you here? You think I'm annoying or ridiculous... you don't have to bother yourself with whatever I am or am not doing or saying or where I am saying it on any given day.
I was going to go on, but then I'm thinking WTF do I need to justify myself to people who don't care? It's already been put out there. I care. You don't. End of story.
In the meantime, I'm looking for SOMEONE to surprise me. >.<
No one likes it, well pass over this thread and onto the next one that is more relevant to "The War Room"... although I think that it has already been established that there are no more real wars to be had on DUST 514. If there were and The War Room hadn't turned into an effing disgrace I would have never posted this here.
If you're going to be bad, be bad with a purpose.
PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-NITE
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B1ack ice
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Posted - 2014.10.12 23:41:00 -
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Seriously though, if all I'm doing is seeking attention, then deny me what only you have the power to give!!!
Stop bumping this thread. LOL
But thank you to:
Everything Dies, Cusetown, and TechMeds.
AND
Kaughst, Derrith, Dagger, Pal, and Rampy.
Oh... and Roner.
You, my dear friends, have managed to help me get through this week, learn new things, and step outside of my own mind for a second to grasp onto different perspectives.
My endgame has been achieved... to grow, evolve, and accept.
If you're going to be bad, be bad with a purpose.
PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-NITE
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B1ack ice
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Posted - 2014.10.13 05:45:00 -
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Immortal John Ripper wrote:I don't think anybody hates you so stop with the emo stuff.
We just don't understand or get you. You should have known what you posted would have been troll bait. This isn't your dairy. I tried acting like the person you described in your first few posts for a reason and you didn't like it. and you were talking about yourself and your own experiences and viewpoints for most of it.
I did disagree with most of it but the way you have been responding to criticism makes me believe that you wouldn't listen anyways. That is the reason for the experiment. If your opinion is so almighty, then how you responded and treated me afterwords would tell me all I need to know about the validity if your current view points. Maybe people see you for what you are, by how you act and are only returning the favor?
I have learned well that sometimes when you want to help someone you can tell them things till you are blue in the face and they won't listen. They may pretend to listen but they won't take your advice or change. People need to want to change, people need to think about it for themselves and resolve it themselves. Only then would you be able to realize the error of your ways.
I don't have an opinion. I didn't know whether or not you were trolling with your response, being completely genuine in your disagreements, and what exactly your "experiment" was if you had one at all. Different possibilities. So, I went with the safest option and gave you whatever you wanted in the most creative way possible... because "I am whatever you say I am and if I wasn't, then why would I say I am? In the paper, the news, everyday I am... I don't know that's just the way I am."
"I have learned well that sometimes when you want to help someone you can tell them things till you are blue in the face and they won't listen. They may pretend to listen but they won't take your advice or change. People need to want to change, people need to think about it for themselves and resolve it themselves. Only then would you be able to realize the error of your ways." - Immortal John Ripper
That is true. Very true.
Everyone has a God Complex, including yourself, and you have gotten on here, baited me with a post, and then proceeded to attempt to use me as your guinea pig because you feel that you have the authority and superiority to pass judgment (experiment)... identified by you informing me the error in my ways.
I DO NOT know everything. I am not a perfect person and I have f_cked up and continue to f_ck up, because I'm not a robot. I'm a human being. Although, I do not fault anyone for treating me like a robot when I never pretended to be anything more or less than the image I created.
As for wanting to help someone, having the audacity to complain about them not accepting the help you never offered is ridiculous.
The intention of the thread was not to paint myself as some damsel in distress victim of **** who is never wrong and always slighted.
I have slighted others. I have hurt others. I have caused others pain. I have lied. I have wasted people's time. I have played games with people and my greatest fault I would have to say is creating and wearing a mask so thick that it became super glued to my face.
The webs we weave...
I'm socially disturbed, but I also don't have to be happy with how I have been treated in the social settings I HAVE been in. I am reflecting on my past experiences so that I can learn from them and evolve so that I am no longer the problem in my relationships with other people.
You think I wrote this post knowing I could get trolled? I deduced that there was a 9 of 10 chance that I would be trolled based off of statistics. I wrote this post knowing I WOULD get trolled.
Just like when I created the thread "Official Statement" I knew that there were three people who had my Facebook account and there was a possibility one of them could post "personal information" as a counter attack.
When in reality, I'm thinking "You call that trolling?"
Unfortunately, I haven't given you any ammo that would help you get under my skin without already knowing you could and would use it against me at some point. I've GIVEN you everything you have. I've never seriously played chess, but...
Checkmate.
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Immortal John Ripper wrote:Derrith Erador wrote:I go to bed and come back to all this? Lighten up guys, seriously. Taking it seriously led me to talk to black all night. I have come to understand her better as a person and she got to understand some alternative points of view. We were able to reflect upon things and talk about real things. Sometimes a person needs a real talk. Not everything needs to be a joke or a game. Because we actually accomplished something. I think me and black have become better friends because of it. All of this, and her attitude, her words... it all makes alot more sense but not to say that she was right in all of it but in the end we are all just human. I have no ill feelings towards black, although I did not have any before. I believe she have come to understand a few things through our talks. I apologize if I was a little harsh but I regret nothing. In my forum godly opinion, I think we should forgive each other, and let this thread die already. << By this I do not just mean me, but everyone on here. Let's start fresh. I can vouch for black. There is no need for details but She has learned a few things about herself and has given me some things to think about. In the end we both gained a little bit. Now that we have spoken, I know how I can help her and she is ready and willing. Like I said, we are all only human. Everyone makes mistakes. Myself included. I declare this thread done and over with... now to wait 6 months for it to reach page 2 of this dead war room.
Yes, I needed our talk last night. IDK who Billy is, but he's a cool guy.
Now you understand. Unfortunately for everyone else not in that convo, I will continue to just look like the absolute f_cktard I can be at times and I'm surprisingly okay with that. >.<
The Reason by Hoobastank <3
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Derrith Erador wrote:Immortal John Ripper wrote:derrith..... A real man is not the one you envision. A real man is not afraid to be sweet to a girl. A real man is not afraid to play with his daughter, and if she wants to play make over he will play make over. He will wear the purple girl wig, and let her decorate him and do the girliest thing.
He may be all tatted up and look all thug and tough guy on the outside to fit your definition of a real man but there are plenty of guys like that who are not real men. a real man has no fear. a real man has no embarrassment and lives with no regrets. He can be sweet, kind, gentle, and loving and not afraid to show it.
Rest in peace, Richard Mata. Cousin, My idol, My inspiration.
@ derrith, it is not gay as sota says. You call it that because you simply don't understand. Yes, but a real man is also smart enough to not get overly involved in situations that are clearly stupid. And here is where I do just that. This entire thing was stupid, hence why I usually didn't say anything past a bad joke or an innuendo, but I've been dragged into it, and these are the type of people who need some more specific examples as to why this is stupid. Sota, Heim, Nat, Atiim and whoever the heck else was in HVLP need to listen. I've been involved in internet drama before, each and every time I got involved I said things I regret, and it's all made me feel really stupid. In my first clan, we kicked out one of our officers because he was an insufferable tool. Like this dude was a complete douche, so a fellow leader and I decided to challenge his new clan to a match, he refused because of some reason that we're also douches (which is probably true). But anyway, stuff was said, which escalated to the kicked member bashing the other leaders deceased wife. After that, we actually started making plans to travel to Scotland to beat the hell out of this guy. He was ex-military, so we started researching forts where he'd be stationed. The next day, I message the kicked member, saying I said things that were quite stupid. Which leads to him messaging the guy he bashed apologizing to him. By the way, the stuff we said to kicked guy was about his wife too. We called her his google images wife, mainly because there was NO WAY a tool like him could've nabbed a woman this hot. I mean she made some dirty movie actresses look ugly. I still don't believe they're married. This is the kind of thing you people will start doing if you don't get over this crap. I've even seen a British gaming clan I used to hang out with fall apart due to childish drama like this, and they were competitive, too. And before you say I'd never do something like that, know that I said much the same thing about cases far less extreme. Broke that promise at least 10 times. Idk why you put my name on here? I don't regret a thing nor should I. I just pointed out that she said we didn't have to read this thread when obviously she knew who resides in the war room. If she didn't want drama she didn't have to post this but that was HER choice. I don't hate her and I don't have a problem with her which is why I took so long to post In This thread then I got too annoyed when reading it.
Don't you bring the D into this conversation, Heim!
>.< I just needed help.
And, yes, everything I write I want you to read. Everything I say, I want you to listen. Because, I happen to care about you. Excuse my dumb f_cktard moments. I don't expect people to have patience with me through some of this ****, but the ones who do don't regret it.
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Kaughst wrote:B1ack ice wrote:Immortal John Ripper wrote:Derrith Erador wrote:I go to bed and come back to all this? Lighten up guys, seriously. Taking it seriously led me to talk to black all night. I have come to understand her better as a person and she got to understand some alternative points of view. We were able to reflect upon things and talk about real things. Sometimes a person needs a real talk. Not everything needs to be a joke or a game. Because we actually accomplished something. I think me and black have become better friends because of it. All of this, and her attitude, her words... it all makes alot more sense but not to say that she was right in all of it but in the end we are all just human. I have no ill feelings towards black, although I did not have any before. I believe she have come to understand a few things through our talks. I apologize if I was a little harsh but I regret nothing. In my forum godly opinion, I think we should forgive each other, and let this thread die already. << By this I do not just mean me, but everyone on here. Let's start fresh. I can vouch for black. There is no need for details but She has learned a few things about herself and has given me some things to think about. In the end we both gained a little bit. Now that we have spoken, I know how I can help her and she is ready and willing. Like I said, we are all only human. Everyone makes mistakes. Myself included. I declare this thread done and over with... now to wait 6 months for it to reach page 2 of this dead war room. Yes, I needed our talk last night. IDK who Billy is, but he's a cool guy. Now you understand. Unfortunately for everyone else not in that convo, I will continue to just look like the absolute f_cktard I can be at times and I'm surprisingly okay with that. >.< The Reason by Hoobastank <3 Natty, you are a master troll. You got all of them to respond in eloquent and sophisticated ways at a expense of their time and dignity. I for one applaud you.
Finally. Someone understands me. WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN ALL MY LIFE?!
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Heimdallr69 wrote:B1ack ice wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Derrith Erador wrote:Immortal John Ripper wrote:derrith..... A real man is not the one you envision. A real man is not afraid to be sweet to a girl. A real man is not afraid to play with his daughter, and if she wants to play make over he will play make over. He will wear the purple girl wig, and let her decorate him and do the girliest thing.
He may be all tatted up and look all thug and tough guy on the outside to fit your definition of a real man but there are plenty of guys like that who are not real men. a real man has no fear. a real man has no embarrassment and lives with no regrets. He can be sweet, kind, gentle, and loving and not afraid to show it.
Rest in peace, Richard Mata. Cousin, My idol, My inspiration.
@ derrith, it is not gay as sota says. You call it that because you simply don't understand. Yes, but a real man is also smart enough to not get overly involved in situations that are clearly stupid. And here is where I do just that. This entire thing was stupid, hence why I usually didn't say anything past a bad joke or an innuendo, but I've been dragged into it, and these are the type of people who need some more specific examples as to why this is stupid. Sota, Heim, Nat, Atiim and whoever the heck else was in HVLP need to listen. I've been involved in internet drama before, each and every time I got involved I said things I regret, and it's all made me feel really stupid. In my first clan, we kicked out one of our officers because he was an insufferable tool. Like this dude was a complete douche, so a fellow leader and I decided to challenge his new clan to a match, he refused because of some reason that we're also douches (which is probably true). But anyway, stuff was said, which escalated to the kicked member bashing the other leaders deceased wife. After that, we actually started making plans to travel to Scotland to beat the hell out of this guy. He was ex-military, so we started researching forts where he'd be stationed. The next day, I message the kicked member, saying I said things that were quite stupid. Which leads to him messaging the guy he bashed apologizing to him. By the way, the stuff we said to kicked guy was about his wife too. We called her his google images wife, mainly because there was NO WAY a tool like him could've nabbed a woman this hot. I mean she made some dirty movie actresses look ugly. I still don't believe they're married. This is the kind of thing you people will start doing if you don't get over this crap. I've even seen a British gaming clan I used to hang out with fall apart due to childish drama like this, and they were competitive, too. And before you say I'd never do something like that, know that I said much the same thing about cases far less extreme. Broke that promise at least 10 times. Idk why you put my name on here? I don't regret a thing nor should I. I just pointed out that she said we didn't have to read this thread when obviously she knew who resides in the war room. If she didn't want drama she didn't have to post this but that was HER choice. I don't hate her and I don't have a problem with her which is why I took so long to post In This thread then I got too annoyed when reading it. Don't you bring the D into this conversation, Heim! >.< I just needed help. And, yes, everything I write I want you to read. Everything I say, I want you to listen. Because, I happen to care about you. Excuse my dumb f_cktard moments. I don't expect people to have patience with me through some of this ****, but the ones who do don't regret it. If you want to know more about me...I already lost you. There's nothing else for me to lose. I have been a dumb f_ck. But, you know, f_ck the mask thing! Deep inside I am just that sweet girl you know that got confused and scared. And when people allow fear to control them, bad things happened. I ended up slitting my own wrists because I didn't want to be stabbed in the back by you. VERY CHILDISH. The worst thing I have ever done, legitimately. I was under the impression you wanted sota to notice you, onee-chan.
K... no one else take this the wrong way!
The only person I care about noticing me is you.
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B1ack ice wrote:
K... no one else take this the wrong way!
The only person I care about noticing me is you.
The reason is you, Heimdallr.
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B1ack ice wrote:Don't you bring the D into this conversation, Heim! >.< I just needed help. And, yes, everything I write I want you to read. Everything I say, I want you to listen. Because, I happen to care about you. Excuse my dumb f_cktard moments. I don't expect people to have patience with me through some of this ****, but the ones who do don't regret it. If you want to know more about me...I already lost you. There's nothing else for me to lose. I have been a dumb f_ck. But, you know, f_ck the mask thing! Deep inside I am just that sweet girl you know that got confused and scared. And when people allow fear to control them, bad things happened. I ended up slitting my own wrists because I didn't want to be stabbed in the back by you. The worst mistake I ever made and I'm ashamed of it. You should really read your skype and then maybe you'd understand.
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Think about it.
I am a try hard.
I paid Yoshi 30 million ISK to teach me how to fly dropships just so I could take a MLT dropship, crash onto the building you were camping from, and nova knife you in the back.
If that isn't a cry for help, I don't know what else is.
I have never tried so hard in my life, Senpai.
So, of course your attention (and yours only), which you have depraved me of, is what I seek.
I'm not going to give up. I will probably stop making an ass out of myself, but at the end of the day I'm still going to be trying.
You're trying very hard. In the words of Saphire, "You try hard. I try harder."
Now, read your Skype and put a period or something in there so I know you read it.
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Kaughst wrote:B1ack ice wrote:Think about it.
I am a try hard.
I paid Yoshi 30 million ISK to teach me how to fly dropships just so I could take a MLT dropship, crash onto the building you were camping from, and nova knife you in the back.
If that isn't a cry for help, I don't know what else is.
I have never tried so hard in my life, Senpai.
So, of course your attention (and yours only), which you have depraved me of, is what I seek.
I'm not going to give up. I will probably stop making an ass out of myself, but at the end of the day I'm still going to be trying.
You're trying very hard. In the words of Saphire, "You try hard. I try harder."
Now, read your Skype and put a period or something in there so I know you read it. He's mine now.
We have had this discussion before. Back off. I will cut you.
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Anyways, I did end up successfully trolling, did I not?
The War Room has been dead and my thread is the only one in here that isn't over a couple months old that has over 1,000 views and over 100 comments.
:D
I have managed to get you all talking again, liven things up, while also managing to become a better person and having a meaningful conversation in the Anime Empire channel on Skype. I decided to drop the act and be real, and while I made myself look like an annoying homo I'm completely fine with that because sometimes you need to become gay in order to get straight. :D
Only one person could make me happier!
You know who you are. I need you!
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Heimdallr69 wrote: Everyone knows I like the booty hole. But I'm the type who prefers sister love =ƒÿç
Surprise butt sex!
You know... If that is true... SoTa told me that's illegal in all 50 states.
Please don't shoot me.
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Unwell - Matchbox 20
All day staring at the ceiling Making friends with shadows on my wall All night hearing voices telling me That I should get some sleep Because tomorrow might be good for something
Hold on Feeling like I'm headed for a breakdown And I don't know why
But I'm not crazy, I'm just a little unwell I know right now you can't tell But stay awhile and maybe then you'll see A different side of me I'm not crazy, I'm just a little impaired I know right now you don't care But soon enough you're gonna think of me And how I used to be...me
I'm talking to myself in public Dodging glances on the train And I know, I know they've all been talking about me I can hear them whisper And it makes me think there must be something wrong with me Out of all the hours thinking Somehow I've lost my mind
But I'm not crazy, I'm just a little unwell I know right now you can't tell But stay awhile and maybe then you'll see A different side of me I'm not crazy, I'm just a little impaired I know right now you don't care But soon enough you're gonna think of me And how I used to be
I've been talking in my sleep Pretty soon they'll come to get me Yeah, they're taking me away
But I'm not crazy, I'm just a little unwell I know right now you can't tell But stay awhile and maybe then you'll see A different side of me I'm not crazy, I'm just a little impaired I know right now you don't care But soon enough you're gonna think of me And how I used to be
Yeah, how I used to be How I used to be Well, I'm just a little unwell How I used to be How I used to be I'm just a little unwell
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Heimdallr69 wrote:B1ack ice wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote: Everyone knows I like the booty hole. But I'm the type who prefers sister love =ƒÿç
Surprise butt sex! You know... If that is true... SoTa told me that's illegal in all 50 states. Please don't shoot me. Maybe gay marriage but not butt sex
Gay marriage isn't illegal in all 50 states, but incest is.
I wasn't talking about butt sex, Senpai.
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Heimdallr69 wrote:B1ack ice wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:B1ack ice wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote: Everyone knows I like the booty hole. But I'm the type who prefers sister love =ƒÿç
Surprise butt sex! You know... If that is true... SoTa told me that's illegal in all 50 states. Please don't shoot me. Maybe gay marriage but not butt sex Gay marriage isn't illegal in all 50 states, but incest is. I wasn't talking about butt sex, Senpai. Well, you got me there.
Good news though!
A relationship between two people who have feelings for each other and are not related is perfectly legal! :D
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Heimdallr69 wrote: Last I checked I was related to my sis.
You may keep up lying to me if you wish, but you also told me the truth and I haven't forgotten it, Senpai.
As for me, no more lies. I've learned my lesson.
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Heimdallr69 wrote:
Quoting from Wikipedia: In the United States, every state and the District of Columbia have some form of codified incest prohibition. However, individual statutes vary widely. Rhode Island repealed its criminal incest statute in 1989, Ohio only targets parental figures, and New Jersey does not apply any penalties when both parties are over the age of 18. Yet Massachusetts issues a penalty of up to 20 years' imprisonment for those engaging in "sexual activities" with relatives closer than first cousins and Hawaii up to 5 years in jail for "sexual penetration" with certain blood relatives and even in-laws.
In all states, close blood-relatives that fall under the incest statutes include father, mother, grandfather, grandmother, brother, sister, aunt, uncle, niece, nephew, and in some states, first cousins. Many states also apply incest laws to non-blood relations including stepparents, step-siblings, and in-laws.
It is illegal in ALL states but "modified" in a few.
Brother-sister qualities under every law as defined incest. Not only that, but according to you she is younger than you (aka underage). So, now we're going from incest to statuatory r4pe.
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Incest, which is sexual relations between (non-spouse) family members, is outlawed in most countries, including the United States. Incest laws aim to promote security and unity with the family, and to prevent the genetic problems that often occur in babies whose parents are related.
In the U.S., incest is regulated by state, not federal law, and every state has one or more laws banning this problematic behavior. And while states sometimes vary in defining the outer boundaries of who is considered GÇ£familyGÇ¥ and the exact behaviors that are off-limits, the underlying goals or policy considerations remain consistent among states.
Recognizing the disruptive nature of incest on healthy family relationships and power dynamics, all state incest laws outlaw sex between close blood relations, and many states also include step-, foster, and adoptive relations, too. And in some states, even unconsummated marriage between close relations is considered incest.
What is GÇ£Family?GÇ¥
For the purposes of incest laws, GÇ£familyGÇ¥ can mean several things: blood relations, family by adoption or marriage (including step-family members), foster families, and sometimes even GÇ£family-likeGÇ¥ situations (such as a parent and child who live with the parentGÇÖs boy- or girlfriend).
All states include close blood relationsGÇö parents, children, aunts, uncles, and grandparentsGÇöin the definition of GÇ£family.GÇ¥ Closely-related cousins, such as the children of a parentGÇÖs sibling, are also included in most states, although more distant cousins are sometimes exempted from incest laws.
In general, the more distant the relation, the less likely that it will be considered as "family" for purposes of incest law. However, other factors (for example, distant cousins being raised in the same household like siblings) can make an otherwise non-problematic relationship incestuous.
Prosecution and Defenses
Often, a situation involving incest also implicates other criminal laws. For example, child abuse and **** (and statutory ****) may be charged as well. Local prosecutors have discretion about whether to bring charges under the state incest law or other applicable laws. Similarly, if a relationship is too attenuated to qualify as an incest crime, the prosecutor will usually have other laws (such as those covering molestation, lewd acts, or ****) under which to prosecute the defendant.
Consent not a defense
A defendant may be convicted of engaging in incest if he knowingly engaged in a sexual encounter with a family member (if no encounter actually took place, the prosecutor may charge the defendant with attempted incest). Because of this, the consent of the other party is not a defense. Of course, as noted, if the victim did not consent and was forced, or was underage, a defendant may face charges for other sex offensesGÇösuch as **** and statutory ****GÇöinstead of (or in addition to) the incest charge.
For more on ****, see Statutory ****. And to learn more about statutory ****, see **** Laws, Defenses, and Penalties.
Who is charged?
Although the ages of the parties are not relevant in proving that incest took place (and are not a defense to such charges), the age of the parties may be relevant as far as who is prosecuted for the crime. For example, if an adult parent has consensual sex with a minor son or daughter, the parent may be prosecuted, while the child will be considered a victim
But where two siblings of similar age are sexually involved with each other, they might both be prosecuted (although many states handle crimes committed by minors through juvenile or family court). For more on crimes committed by minors, see The Juvenile Justice System.
Old cases and the statute of limitations
"All states set time periods in which a crime may be prosecuted, such as five or ten years after the incident. Such laws are intended to ensure that cases are handled relatively quickly, and recognize the danger in prosecuting old cases where the facts may be difficult to discern. In some states, if a long time has passed since the time of an incestuous encounter or relationship and a prosecution, the defendant may claim that the statute of limitations has run.
For more information on state statutes of limitation, with state-by-state information, see Criminal Statutes of Limitations.
Penalties
Penalties for an incest conviction vary according to state law, but may include separation of family members (if a child is involved, the child may be placed in foster or other care), or a jail or prison term of several months to many years.
For information on felony charges and sentences on a state-by-state basis, see Classification of Crimes: Felonies & Misdemeanors.
Help for Incest Survivors
If you or someone you know is a victim of incest or another sex crime, there is free and confidential help available to you. Contact the ****, Abuse & Incest National Network (RAINN) for online help and local resources.
Talk to a Lawyer
If you are facing an incest charge, consider consulting with an experienced criminal defense attorney who regularly practices in your area. A lawyer can evaluate the strength of the prosecutionGÇÖs case against you, help develop any defenses that might apply to your case, and will know how local prosecutors and judges typically handle cases like yours." quote from NOLO.com
http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/incest-laws-criminal-charges.html
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"Incest is defined as sexual activity between close family members. It is looked down upon and forbidden in a large majority of cultures. In most Western societies, incest is illegal and punishable by law. There is some evidence that incest was controversial in ancient times, practiced by the Egyptians but frowned upon by the Romans. Incest sometimes appeared in royal dynasties, in order to keep wealth and political power within the royal families. Although there is some evidence of incest occurring in the past, it was by probably not too common. Incestuous marriages did occur, but they certainly were rare (Wikipedia, 2006).
Looking at the statistics today, it seems that incest is more common than people may believe. It is estimated that one in three girls and one in six boys are sexually abused before the age of 18. Of sexually abused girls, over half are abused by their biological fathers. Uncles and stepfathers are the other leading offenders. Incest is sexual relations between two people who are so closely related that marriage is illegal or forbidden by custom. The participants could be blood relatives or relatives through marriage. This definition excludes husband and wife relatives. One of the persons often involved in an incestuous relationship is a child. Although adult and sibling incest can occur, incest is more likely to take place between an older and younger relative. The most commonly reported incestuous relationship is between a father and his daughter. However, studies show brother-sister and first-cousin sexual activity occur more often. Studies have also shown that in most sibling or cousin incest situations, one or both parents seem to be absent emotionally or physically. According to the National Center for Victims of Crime, most cases of **** in the United States reported are within a family. Ninety nine percent of sexual abusers are men, and many of these men were themselves abused as children. Although most sexual abuse victims are females, males account for at least a quarter of those abused (ICASA).
Incest is often though of as sexual assault of children and can be a form of **** in many cases (RAINN, 2006). However, incest can also be consensual. In some cases, incest can occur between two consenting adults who may enjoy the act and their relationship. This is not often the case though, and incest can result in long-term negative consequences.
Children who are victims of incest frequently experience the following: GÇó withdrawal GÇó depression GÇó sleeping and eating disorders GÇó anxiety GÇó guilt GÇó academic problems
Children and adults who are victims of incest may develop a fear of sex or other sexual disorders. They may have a difficult time trusting other people, especially if the offender was someone who was once trusted by and close to the victim (RAINN, 2006).
In the United States, incest is defined as sexual contact between those so closely related that if they were to marry it would be illegal. Expectations about incest differ from culture to culture, as most standards for sex do, so what is considered taboo in the US or other Western cultures may not be viewed negatively in other cultures. In some areas of the Arab world and India for example, about half of marriages occur between first cousins (RAINN, 2006). Since different cultures have different standards for many sexual matters, it is difficult to create a worldwide definition of incest and when it should be a crime. Incest, particularly non-consensual, can frequently result in long lasting negative psychological consequences."
- Quoted from http://www.soc.ucsb.edu/sexinfo/article/incest-laws-united-states
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B1ack ice
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Posted - 2014.10.14 01:21:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:B1ack ice wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:
Quoting from Wikipedia: In the United States, every state and the District of Columbia have some form of codified incest prohibition. However, individual statutes vary widely. Rhode Island repealed its criminal incest statute in 1989, Ohio only targets parental figures, and New Jersey does not apply any penalties when both parties are over the age of 18. Yet Massachusetts issues a penalty of up to 20 years' imprisonment for those engaging in "sexual activities" with relatives closer than first cousins and Hawaii up to 5 years in jail for "sexual penetration" with certain blood relatives and even in-laws.
In all states, close blood-relatives that fall under the incest statutes include father, mother, grandfather, grandmother, brother, sister, aunt, uncle, niece, nephew, and in some states, first cousins. Many states also apply incest laws to non-blood relations including stepparents, step-siblings, and in-laws.
It is illegal in ALL states but "modified" in a few. Brother-sister qualities under every law as defined incest. Not only that, but according to you she is younger than you (aka underage). So, now we're going from incest to statuatory r4pe. I'm 20 shes 19. Yes that must be ****.
Well, at least it isn't **** then.
If you're going to be bad, be bad with a purpose.
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B1ack ice
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.10.14 01:37:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:You're so worked up by this. It's quite amusing.
Well, it is kind of unnerving.
The only person I loved just had to be f_cking his own sister.
lol
**** my life.
Meh, I was a dumb f_ck. I'm thinking this is karma. I deserve this.
I don't know what messages you have read or haven't read, because you haven't responded and acknowledge they've been received.
BUT, at the end of the day, I was real with you, like I'm being now, because you deserve what I didn't give you when you were with me.
I'm sorry for that.
It is what it is, maybe, but I can't forget what it was. >.<
If you're going to be bad, be bad with a purpose.
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B1ack ice
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2014.10.16 16:38:00 -
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Yung Chang wrote:at least black dong didnt make up "sister" to get attention
lol
If you're going to be bad, be bad in bed.
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B1ack ice
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2014.10.16 16:53:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Yung Chang wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Yung Chang wrote:at least black dong didnt make up "sister" to get attention
lol
Let me know when your d!ck isn't in her mouth and you actually want to talk about something you know nothing about. i would say my d!ck in ur sis mouth but i just remembered she aint real The only one offended by this is black ice so you're either her alt or a butt buddy of hers. My guess would be Rampage since he's hated me for a while. But unfortunately I'm not stupid enough to provide proof so that you can stalk me or her.
You are paranoid.
No one cares.
If you're going to be bad, be bad in bed.
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B1ack ice
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2014.10.16 17:14:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote: My guess would be Rampage since he's hated me for a while.
Just an FYI...
I don't like telling people what I do for them because I feel that it is vain, but just to clear something up:
About a month or so ago, I sat down and talked to Rampage for over an hour about you and how you were treated really unfairly over the whole AE thing. I argued for him to apologize to you personally. I vouched for you.
Regardless of some of the **** I pull, I look out for the people who I view are my friends.
Although you are legitimately no longer one, please do me a favor, and stop accusing me of doing sh!t I don't do.
I have this moral code I'll follow to the grave and any hatred of you won't get in my way of doing exactly that.
If you're going to be bad, be bad in bed.
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B1ack ice
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2014.10.16 17:17:00 -
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P.S.M.
Let the f_cking thread die. I don't know whether or not I should be completely embarrassed or relieved this is the stupidest thing I've ever done.
If you're going to be bad, be bad in bed.
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B1ack ice
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2014.10.16 17:28:00 -
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Immortal John Ripper wrote:Derrith Erador wrote:Immortal John Ripper wrote:Okay I admit it. It is my alt.
Not much of a stretch right? I am the man of a thousand alts. (I wonder if I can make that phrase catch on... Man of a thousand alts...) *waits for Sota*.... Any minute now. Sota constantly makes you alts to get around ban filter, I do it for fun. Sota does not hide his identity. I could be anyone. For all you know I am also Heim. I could be 50% of the people posting in this thread. I could even be you. My likes had to come from some where, from several hundred alts of mine. :p
That's not what you said last night.
If you're going to be bad, be bad in bed.
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B1ack ice
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2014.10.16 18:26:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:I have nothing against Rampage I still see him as a friend but when he's around Kujo or whoever then they all talk **** I'd know cuz I've heard their conversations. I'm well aware that out of all the people in +å rampage was the only one to stick up for me and I treated him poorly because of what happened and somewhere along the line I apologized for it but that didn't change a thing, I never wanted an apology from him I just wanted him to stop talking ****. We were friends for the longest time and I ruined it I'm well aware of that.
Yeah, you've ruined a lot. So, have I.
We should all move on.
People make bad choices all the time, ones we regret and ones we don't.
The important thing is that when you do regret something, you be mature about it and decide to act differently.
On my end, no more **** talking. I was legitimately hurt by a lot of you and I lashed out because I was not expecting it.
I also hurt other people trying not to get hurt.
Sh!t happens.
I did not delete all of my posts in this thread because I'm seeking attention, but because I WAS seeking attention (yours specifically) and I am now ashamed of it. Was completely immature and has no place anywhere.
EDIT: Also, Apology/Stop Talking ****... There were a number of different subjects brought up in that long argument. Same thing.
If you're going to be bad, be bad in bed.
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