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Tesfa Alem
Death by Disassociation
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Posted - 2014.10.09 19:19:00 -
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Pretty much this. Delta hasn't stopped missile turrets from stomping infantry, it just handed more easy WP to anybody with a swarm launcher. It has made stomong undefended infantry the only task left for dropships.
Give regular infantry the ability to damage Dropships. Anybody flying close enough to a group of them ought to take some serious damage.
Swarms can be toned down for the mediums suits sake, and only reward use through specialization. Swarms get the damage WP and still will do much more damage than a light weapon, but 4 or 4 guys with light weapons opening up on you ship should give one some cause for concern.
Infantry can shoot back and defend themselves. They dont have to "sacrifice" so much to use an AV suit. Picking on defensless troops would become more tricky.I was thinking something along the lines of the nova knife 50% efficacy against Dropships.
Just a rough idea, any thoughts?
Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
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Posted - 2014.10.09 19:22:00 -
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Melee should do over 9000% damage to DS and ADS Risk/Reward
KRRROOOOOOM
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ACT1ON BASTARD
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.10.09 19:24:00 -
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You ever hear of av nades? |
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2014.10.09 20:48:00 -
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I think it's a bad idea.
AV weapons are there for a reason and I have no sympathy whatsoever for anyone who objects to the idea of refitting to task. Omni fits that can kill everything regardless removes the tactical and strategy aspects of the game and turn it into another stupid twitch shooter.
If I wanted to play spastic PvP where any fit can kill anything I'l go load up Destiny and join the damn crucible matches. |
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Tesfa Alem
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Posted - 2014.10.09 22:23:00 -
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cool, thanks guys, another one for the trash bin.
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
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Posted - 2014.10.09 22:31:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:I think it's a bad idea.
AV weapons are there for a reason and I have no sympathy whatsoever for anyone who objects to the idea of refitting to task. Omni fits that can kill everything regardless removes the tactical and strategy aspects of the game and turn it into another stupid twitch shooter.
If I wanted to play spastic PvP where any fit can kill anything I'l go load up Destiny and join the damn crucible matches.
So you oppose the use of tanks and dropships?
Because, that's why.
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
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Posted - 2014.10.09 22:35:00 -
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I originally liked the idea of small arms fire hurting vehicles but I think finding the balance between pointless and OP would be impossible. An ADS constantly getting plinked by a sniper, and killed every time there were 4 or more players would not be fun. AV/V is pretty good, minor tweaks are all that are needed. Vehicle users may have complaints but balance reslly shouldn't be one of them.
Because, that's why.
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Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.09 23:20:00 -
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This is one of the worst idea ever. But regardless your handheld weapons wont be aible to get trough the shield regen threshold.
Bright is the opposite of dark! Who would have thought of that?!
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Tesfa Alem
Death by Disassociation
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Posted - 2014.10.09 23:22:00 -
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Nothing Certain wrote:I originally liked the idea of small arms fire hurting vehicles but I think finding the balance between pointless and OP would be impossible. An ADS constantly getting plinked by a sniper, and killed every time there were 4 or more players would not be fun. AV/V is pretty good, minor tweaks are all that are needed. Vehicle users may have complaints but balance reslly shouldn't be one of them.
My idea was not on the scale of light weapons replacing AV, just hirt enough to give a pilot some pause for thought but not enough to kill. But yeah, not the best way to go about it seing how damage is applied in dust, vs shields would hurt the caldari ships more than the gallente. Too tricky to balance, and would hurt more that it would help i suppose.
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postapo wastelander
Wasteland Desert Rangers
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Posted - 2014.10.10 11:38:00 -
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Tesfa Alem wrote:Pretty much this. Delta hasn't stopped missile turrets from stomping infantry, it just handed more easy WP to anybody with a swarm launcher. It has made stomong undefended infantry the only task left for dropships.
Give regular infantry the ability to damage Dropships. Anybody flying close enough to a group of them ought to take some serious damage.
Swarms can be toned down for the mediums suits sake, and only reward use through specialization. Swarms get the damage WP and still will do much more damage than a light weapon, but 4 or 4 guys with light weapons opening up on you ship should give one some cause for concern.
Infantry can shoot back and defend themselves. They dont have to "sacrifice" so much to use an AV suit. Picking on defensless troops would become more tricky.I was thinking something along the lines of the nova knife 50% efficacy against Dropships.
Just a rough idea, any thoughts?
Its quite Easy Matee Boyo .. NOPE just Nope, your idea is basicaly like tryin' to kill Frigate with Cuthlass![Pirate](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_pirate.png)
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