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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2014.10.09 13:36:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Happy Violentime wrote:Tesfa Alem wrote:From the air: There is no escape from swarms. If you are a suck pilot. Lvl 5 Minmando, 2 complex DMG mods, Wiyrkomi Swarm Launcher (prof 3 or 4) I generally find that most sensible pilots have got the **** out of dodge before i can get the 3rd volley off... and outside of militia DS most ADS I see can tank 3 volleys easily. ADS can still hit that afterburner, increase altitude and outrun swarms. You're doing it wrong then.
Please , don't give these scrubs any more ammo then they need , there crying about a weapon that has a less then 200 m range and a 2 to 3 second lock on time ... that's more then enough time to escape and they have the most maneuverability of all vehicles with the best escape as well .
If they sit around long enough to get swarmed then they deserve all that they get .
These were the same ones who talked crap about HAV users , until they were hit themselves and now it's " Oh , woe is me " .
They would fly around instablapping anything and anyone in their path .
I bet the next time anything that comes up about vehicles , they will watch what they say because it effects them as well , not just tankers or LAV drivers .
I told them , anything that they do to tankers will have an effect on them as well but they didn't listen and look at them now .
These are some of the main people who talked crap about tankers and now they see what they didn't at the time .
Instead of talking crap , come with solutions that will help and not handicap the role or else , you might be next .
Your not just pilots , your vehicle users .
Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2014.10.09 13:44:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:
Now personally I have become accustom to the new order of things, but still, the role is very unrewarding in terms of WP and for the love of god we NEED TO FIX GOD DAMN DROPSHIP COLLISION.
Because the damage output of ADS`s has been nerfed so much, almost nobody fights in the skies anymore, if they see a shield ADS and they are in armour, they ram you every time.
Its a gaping hole in gameplay that needs to be fixed. It should tell you everything you need to know about Air VS Air.
So you can Jihad jeep but not be a Kamikaze pilot ?
I'm not knocking you CB but it's a viable tactic , just like jihad jeeps are .
What is with double standards in this community ???
Again , not a knock against you CB because your not the only one who feels the way that you do but you had the courage to say what you said and I can do nothing but applaud you for that .
It's a viable tactic though .
Edit : If CCP does " fix " collision damage , then they need to get rid of the jihad jeeps as well , its only right .
More double standards and bias .
Ground vehicles have it so much more harder then any airship .
Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2014.10.09 14:56:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:Tesfa Alem wrote:Atiim wrote:Nevermind, wrong post Mr. Bolt? A table has just opened up, for you and Mr. Shinobi. Haha. I was waiting for the comment, the table is for the other gentleman  Give the guy a break though, Attim is usually a voice of reason on the forums. I might not always agree with him but I respect his position as he has done more than most in this game.
I agree with CB and like I was saying , I'm not knocking him because I think he has some good opinions from what I see of him but the only table that I'm interested in is the one that I separate my Kush on before I roll it up and smoke , now if CB wants to smoke with me ... I'm all for that but just one thing , no discussions about Dust ... please  .
Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2014.10.09 15:55:00 -
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Tesfa Alem wrote:
Calm down, calm down. i dont know about crying but i do know you're getting awfully worked up over your scrub crutch. Swarms are not the godsend savior of infantry dude. I want all infantry with light weapons to be able to properly damage a dropship, so they won't go instapopping anyone without AV. I want swarm turn radius nerfed and Damage buffed so that the autolocks are not a garunteed hit, and the ones you do land will really, really hurt a dropship.
Here's a tip before you get all accusatory: got to dustsearch.com. You type my name in the search engine and you can see every post i have ever made. Find it where i was talking crap about tanks. I'll admit, yes i was against redline tanks that can shoot from one redline into the opposite one, that broke the game for all vehicles, dropships AND tanks who left the redline.
thats why i'm not saying you are ''the same people as' blah blah', partly because i don't know you, mostly because i try not to claim what i can't back up.
Your telling me to " Calm Down " but you seem awfully worked up about defending yourself , I speak in general terms because , if it's not YOU that I'm speaking about , then YOU should not feel bothered by any comment and it would be tedious to point out every single person , put up a link to the post of the person who made the comment to prove when and what was said and I don't have the time to do so , so I speak in general terms .
If it's not YOU personally , then YOU should not feel like I'm talking to YOU per say .
No one puts up links to everything that's said by an individual , lets get real now .
I didn't realize that I was or sounded worked up either , just pointing out things that are true about the environment that this community is .
Sometimes a persons guilt leads to that person making comments of defense , if YOU were not mentioned , like I'm doing now OP , then you shouldn't feel like you have to or had to defend yourself .
Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kyoudai Furinkazan
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Posted - 2014.10.09 23:42:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:
Now personally I have become accustom to the new order of things, but still, the role is very unrewarding in terms of WP and for the love of god we NEED TO FIX GOD DAMN DROPSHIP COLLISION.
Because the damage output of ADS`s has been nerfed so much, almost nobody fights in the skies anymore, if they see a shield ADS and they are in armour, they ram you every time.
Its a gaping hole in gameplay that needs to be fixed. It should tell you everything you need to know about Air VS Air.
So you can Jihad jeep but not be a Kamikaze pilot ? I'm not knocking you CB but it's a viable tactic , just like jihad jeeps are . What is with double standards in this community ??? Again , not a knock against you CB because your not the only one who feels the way that you do but you had the courage to say what you said and I can do nothing but applaud you for that . It's a viable tactic though . Edit : If CCP does " fix " collision damage , then they need to get rid of the jihad jeeps as well , its only right . More double standards and bias . Ground vehicles have it so much more harder then any airship . Oh man I understand you totally. However when a jihad jeep rams a tank, the idea is that both parties die in the ensuing explosion right? When an Armour kamikaze DS hits a shield DS, ONLY the shield dropship dies and that is wrong. If someone wants to kamikaze me, at the very least they should also die! Even so, the risk vs reward is certainly off balance. A 300k+ dropship vs a 40k ish kamikaze? Also I have to say I disagree with your analysis. An aware tanker can easily take out a jihad jeeper. You have rough terrain that slows the LAV down, you can swing the turret around on the tank and blow up that pesky jeeper. In an ADS spotting a kamikaze rammer is hard enough, dodging it is difficult indeed however taking it out is a different beast all together. I have played many roles n this game, I do not wish to remove kamikaze nor jihad jeeps. I just think there needs to be balance. The tank has balance because you can spot and kill the jihad jeeper. The ADS is at pains to even find the encroaching kamikaze pilot and certainly will have a tough time trying to kill said kamikaze pilot. "Fit an active scanner" I hear you say, lets be honest that is a no go for a Python pilot. We cannot afford to lose any of our precious shield slots. We cant even fit all proto mods as it is! So yea TLDR - Balance with ALL roles, that includes both sides of the kamikaze maniacs and the pilots and tankers. However as it stands the Python ADS has a distinct and tangible disadvantage right now.
I like you because you are one who is a real Caldari , I see that you are one of the full racial types and that's appreciated .
Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
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