D4GG3R
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
453
|
Posted - 2014.10.08 04:32:00 -
[1] - Quote
Aria Gomes wrote:X7 lion wrote:Wouldn't it be simpler for scouts to have a heavy moment penalty & raise the suits db level making tanked scouts easyer to scan because the higher your movement speed the faster your aim, if your bring them down from scout speed class there basically an assault suit & that way if scouts want more armor they have to use the smaller class plates to maintain scoutyness or some thing. This this this! So much this.
This would make amarr scouts stupid good. You can run 3 damps and a complex rep, and still have over 400 ehp without using a single plate. So essentially you could still be beefy and avoid said penalty, making it the Scout suit of choice.
I'm pretty plain.
I watch anime for the boobs
|
D4GG3R
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
461
|
Posted - 2014.10.10 12:07:00 -
[2] - Quote
Aria Gomes wrote:D4GG3R wrote:Aria Gomes wrote:X7 lion wrote:Wouldn't it be simpler for scouts to have a heavy moment penalty & raise the suits db level making tanked scouts easyer to scan because the higher your movement speed the faster your aim, if your bring them down from scout speed class there basically an assault suit & that way if scouts want more armor they have to use the smaller class plates to maintain scoutyness or some thing. This this this! So much this. This would make amarr scouts stupid good. You can run 3 damps and a complex rep, and still have over 400 ehp without using a single plate. So essentially you could still be beefy and avoid said penalty, making it the Scout suit of choice. How much armor/shield does the Amarr scout have(with cores leveled up)?
I know the base armor is like 204. And with two complex shield extenders you will have 217 shields, not quite sure on shield base though.
I'm pretty plain.
I watch anime for the boobs
|
D4GG3R
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
461
|
Posted - 2014.10.10 21:52:00 -
[3] - Quote
Commander Shepard III wrote:xavier zor wrote:Hello, xavier here. I have ran my scout suit for a long time, and half the time i have been tanking it...experimenting with it. Yes, the gallante scout is basically an assault suit with ridiculous eWar, and the caldari scout has some hitbox issues. BUT this doesn't exclude the problem of tanked scouts to just these races. Here is the problem:
Caldari assault- 210 shield 120 armor Caldari scout-180 shield 78 armor
Now based on just these 2 facts, we can clearly see that the assault would win...but there is more stats such as STRAFING speed! The asasult suits cannot strafe any better than a heavy (logically they can), and they are no match for a scout in close-quarters combat.
The assault user has no trouble shooting a scout in the open. But the assault user has to be unseen by the scout, and the scout has to be standing in the open uncloaked! THis is impossible, so most scout encounters are CQC...Now if you have ever winced upon the mighty scout in CQC as a scout and won, then 10/10 you will win against an assault suit in CQC, or a heavy in CQC.
This leads to more and more people using scout suits, which leads to focused complaints about how the scouts are OP, and how they are 'scrubs'
Now, if we change the assault suits stats to: 310 shield 210 armor then the first 10-20 shots that the assault user fires at the scout and misses will be compensated by extra HP, and the scout will lose his advantage of surprise...since everyone that faces a scout in CQC panics, misses theie first few shots then re-aims and nails them.
So, without further ado (or however it is spelt) hotfix echo should implement the fix to tanked armor scouts:
DOUBLE all suits shield and increase armor by 150%, depending on racial suit (gallante increase shield by 150%, double armor Lol this is wrong. Go ahead and tell all those scouts I always kill in PCs with my Min assault that scouts always beat assault suits
We have to remember, not all assault suits are being controlled by you shepard, you are more skilled than your average joe. and most scouts are stupid too.....
I'm pretty plain.
I watch anime for the boobs
|